Lawyers Without Billboards

Shewmaker & Lewis

Real lawyers, real talk—without the billboards. Lawyers Without Billboards is an unfiltered look at family law, hosted by the partners of Shewmaker & Lewis: Steve and Patty Shewmaker, and Jimmy and Alexa Lewis. With decades of experience in divorce, custody battles, child support, alimony, and criminal law, they break down legal myths, share expert insights, and dive into real cases (sometimes with a side of humor). Expect candid conversations, legal deep dives, and the occasional sidebar on pop culture, legal movies, and life as family law attorneys. Whether you're navigating a family law issue, practicing law yourself, or just enjoy courtroom drama, this podcast offers valuable insights with a dose of levity. New episodes every two weeks Subscribe and listen wherever you get your podcasts!

  1. 1d ago

    Georgia’s New Laws: Service Dogs, Signal Jammers & Political T-Shirts | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep31

    Georgia has a fresh batch of laws on the books, and some are more surprising than others. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve, Patty, Jimmy, and Alexa break down several notable new Georgia laws, including expanded protections for service dogs, changes to the Safe Haven law, new rules for cash rounding if pennies disappear, tougher penalties for signal jammers, and a publicly searchable animal cruelty database. The conversation also covers increased penalties for gift card fraud, human trafficking, and improper sexual conduct by clergy, along with Georgia’s new protections for political expression by public school students. As always, the team explores what the laws actually say, why lawmakers may have passed them, and the practical questions that could arise once they are enforced. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 01:02 Why many Georgia laws take effect July 1 02:33 New protections for service dogs 06:45 Penalties for harming a service dog 09:30 How the podcast is reaching potential clients 10:08 Georgia’s expanded Safe Haven law 11:32 Georgia’s new cash-rounding law 14:49 Magistrate Court limits increase 15:17 Signal jammers become a felony 16:42 New criminal provisions involving clergy 18:13 Georgia’s animal cruelty database 21:13 Human trafficking and pimping penalties 21:37 New gift card fraud offenses 23:38 Political expression in Georgia public schools 25:53 Political clothing, school dress codes, and free speech 30:12 Final thoughts 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/QjjqbTgCDMM or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Georgia’s New Laws: Service Dogs, Signal Jammers & Political T-Shirts | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep31
  2. Jul 23

    Cybersecurity for Lawyers: Is Your Law Firm a Disaster Waiting to Happen? | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep30

    One bad click can create a very expensive problem for a law firm. Steve, Alexa, and Jimmy welcome attorney and cybersecurity professional Lawton Brown of Exigent to discuss the growing cyber threats facing law firms of every size. Lawton explains why compromised law firm email accounts can spread malware to clients and opposing counsel, how artificial intelligence is making phishing attempts more convincing, and why attorneys may have an ethical duty to take reasonable steps to protect confidential client information. They also discuss cyber liability insurance, ransomware payments, cloud security, compromised charging cables, the risks of placing client information into free AI tools, and the potentially devastating cost of a data breach. Lawton shares the story of a small company that faced nearly $1 million in expenses following a ransomware attack and explains why cyber insurance may deny coverage when a business has failed to follow the security requirements contained in its policy. The conversation eventually turns to Shewmaker & Lewis’s ongoing devotion to WordPerfect, unrealistic computer hacking scenes in movies, WarGames, The Matrix, Star Wars, and the urgent need for a system that automatically deletes Steve’s browser history.  ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Welcome and introductions 00:41 Meet Lawton Brown 03:13 Lawyer turned cybersecurity professional 06:09 The old law firm server and the move to the cloud 09:55 When hacked law firms send dangerous emails 10:42 Cybersecurity negligence and legal ethics 12:20 Practical email security protections 15:42 The limitations of cyber liability insurance 17:40 Ignoring known security vulnerabilities 19:53 Why small firms are attractive targets 21:31 Cloud servers versus local servers 23:51 What a data breach can cost 25:27 The realities of ransomware 27:00 The battle over WordPerfect 31:57 Hacking in movies versus real life 33:33 Real-world hacking techniques 36:16 Why most attacks begin with email 37:35 Movies the hosts cannot stop watching 40:32 A serious Star Wars technology debate 41:33 Final advice for law firms 📩 Connect with Lawton Brown: Lawton Brown is an attorney and cybersecurity professional with Xogent, helping law firms and businesses protect their systems, confidential information, and day-to-day operations. Website: www.xogent.com Office: (678) 208-8866 To learn more about Xogent’s cybersecurity and managed IT services, visit the website or contact Lawton directly. 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/gQl6xcSkRt8 or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Cybersecurity for Lawyers: Is Your Law Firm a Disaster Waiting to Happen? | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep30
  3. Jul 16

    Divorce Discovery: The Questions You Can’t Afford to Ignore | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep29

    What can your spouse ask for during divorce discovery, and what happens if you refuse to answer? Discovery is the process attorneys use to gather documents, sworn answers, testimony, and other information that could affect a divorce, custody, alimony, child-support, or modification case. Although it can sound dry, discovery is often where a case’s most revealing evidence emerges. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, the attorneys at Shewmaker & Lewis explain: • What discovery means in a divorce case • How soon discovery should begin • Georgia’s general discovery timeline • Requests for production of documents • Interrogatories and the 50-question limit • Requests for admission and what happens if you miss the deadline • How admissions can be used during cross-examination • When depositions are worth the expense • Whether depositions are sometimes used to intimidate • When a discovery request is overly broad, irrelevant, or privileged • How protective orders can limit improper discovery • What must happen before filing a motion to compel The discussion includes real cases involving vehicle trackers, staged photographs, hundreds of requests for admission, expensive depositions, copy-and-pasted discovery demands, and disagreements over what qualifies as a proper discovery conference. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:42 Is discovery really a “necessary evil”? 01:15 What is discovery? 01:51 When discovery begins and how long it lasts 03:43 Tracking discovery deadlines 04:36 Requests for admission explained 06:18 Trackers, photographs, and strategic admissions 08:18 Can someone send hundreds of admissions? 11:01 Using admissions for impeachment 11:39 Document requests and interrogatories 14:59 What happens during a deposition? 17:11 Can a deposition be used to intimidate someone? 19:14 Can you object to discovery? 20:21 Privilege, burden, relevance, and time limits 22:19 When to seek a protective order 24:34 Motions to compel and Rule 6.4 conferences 28:44 Final thoughts and the next episode 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/C3JsQdPcXZU or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA Edit This Episode Episode is Live Published: Jul. 09, 2026 @ 5AM Edit Add a Transcript Add Chapter Markers Create a Visual Soundbite Mid-Roll Placements Share Link to Episode Episode Share URLCopy View in website Direct Link to Audio Copy Download MP3 Embed Audio Player

    Divorce Discovery: The Questions You Can’t Afford to Ignore | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep29
  4. Jul 9

    Your Divorce Is Final... Now What? The Critical Steps Most People Miss | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep28

    Welcome back to Lawyers Without Billboards! Many people think the divorce is over once the judge signs the final decree. In reality, that's often when some of the most important work begins. In this episode, Steve, Patty, Jimmy, and Alexa discuss the critical post-divorce steps that can make the difference between a smooth transition and years of unnecessary headaches. From transferring property and dividing retirement accounts to handling military pensions, refinancing vehicles, and selling the marital home, they explain why "done" doesn't always mean done. They also discuss what options may exist if you're unhappy with a final divorce order, including motions for new trial, motions to set aside, and appeals, along with the strict deadlines that can affect your rights. Whether you're going through a divorce or simply want to understand what happens after the courtroom, this episode offers practical insights from attorneys who deal with these issues every day. ⏱️ Chapters  00:00 Introduction  00:47 Why the End of a Divorce Isn't Really the End  02:50 The "Post-Divorce Cleanup" Checklist  04:03 QDROs, Military Pensions & Property Transfers  05:00 Selling the Marital Home After Divorce  08:18 Questions Every Client Should Ask Their Attorney  09:27 Creating a Post-Divorce Action Plan  10:40 Common Mistakes That Create Future Problems  12:44 Managing Post-Judgment Tasks Efficiently  14:15 What If You Disagree With the Judge?  15:05 Motions for New Trial Explained  16:32 Motions for Reconsideration & Term of Court  18:25 Motions to Set Aside a Divorce Judgment  20:20 Appeals and Critical Deadlines  21:47 Final Takeaways for Attorneys and Clients  24:01 Closing Thoughts  🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/wwbE9BYRgRI or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Your Divorce Is Final... Now What? The Critical Steps Most People Miss | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep28
  5. Jul 2

    What Does "I Object!" Really Mean? What Lawyers (and TV Viewers) Should Know | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep27

    What does it actually mean when a lawyer stands up and says, "Objection"? In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, the attorneys at Shewmaker & Lewis explain one of the most recognizable parts of any courtroom proceeding. They discuss why objections exist, how they protect the fairness of a trial, and what judges consider when deciding whether to sustain or overrule an objection. The conversation covers several of the most common objections, including relevance, hearsay, leading questions, and questions that assume facts not in evidence. Along the way, the hosts share memorable courtroom stories, practical trial tips, and insights into how experienced litigators use objections strategically without disrupting the flow of a case. Whether you're preparing for law school, actively practicing law, or simply fascinated by courtroom procedure, this episode provides a practical introduction to one of the most important tools in trial advocacy. In this episode:  Why courtroom objections exist  What makes an objection valid  Sustained vs. overruled explained  Common evidentiary objections  Relevance  Hearsay  Leading questions  Assumes facts not in evidence  Trial strategy and objection techniques  Real courtroom stories from experienced litigators⏱️ Chapters  00:00 Introduction  01:26 What is an objection?  03:32 Why lawyers object in court  04:40 What makes a valid objection?  05:40 Sustained vs. overruled  08:56 A courtroom story about objecting  11:15 Common objections every lawyer knows  11:35 Relevance  15:35 Leading questions  17:35 Assumes facts not in evidence  18:20 Should lawyers cite the rule number?  22:25 When objections rely on case law  24:20 A practical trial strategy  25:20 Judge Greg Adams' famous "I sustain the objection"  28:35 Final thoughts  🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/UyRn2v5SiuI or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    What Does "I Object!" Really Mean? What Lawyers (and TV Viewers) Should Know | Lawyers Without Billboards  S2-Ep27
  6. Jun 25

    Hearsay: What It Is and Why Courts Hate It | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep26

    What exactly is hearsay, and why do courts spend so much time arguing about it? In this episode, the attorneys of Shewmaker & Lewis tackle one of the most confusing concepts in the legal world. They explain how hearsay is defined, why courts generally exclude it, and what makes certain out-of-court statements reliable enough to be admitted as evidence. The conversation covers practical courtroom examples, the importance of cross-examination, common hearsay exceptions, business records, admissions by a party opponent, and the strategic decisions lawyers face when deciding whether to object. Whether you're involved in a legal case, interested in trial strategy, or simply curious about how courts determine what evidence can be trusted, this episode provides a clear and entertaining introduction to the law of hearsay. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:28 What Is Hearsay? 04:22 Breaking Down the Legal Definition 06:12 Why Courts Distrust Hearsay 08:03 Jimmy, Porky the Pig, and a Hearsay Example 12:23 When Hearsay Comes In Anyway 15:07 Prior Statements and Witness Testimony 18:22 Admissions by a Party Opponent 22:22 Why Hearsay Exceptions Exist 24:08 Present Sense Impression 26:31 Excited Utterance 28:47 Business Records Exception 31:16 Real-World Courtroom Practice 32:31 Wrapping Up and Hearsay Part 2 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/UyRn2v5SiuI or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Hearsay: What It Is and Why Courts Hate It | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep26
  7. Jun 18

    Inside Family Court: Judge Scott Kaye Explains What Really Happens | Lawyers Without Billboards - S2 Ep25

    What exactly does a judicial officer do in Fulton County Family Court? In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve, Patty, and Jimmy sit down with Judge Scott Kaye, one of Fulton County's most experienced judicial officers, to pull back the curtain on how family court really works. Judge Kaye explains the purpose of 30-day, 60-day, and 120-day status conferences, how temporary hearings and contempt actions are handled, and why Fulton County's specialized Family Division often moves cases much faster than other courts. The conversation also explores what qualifies as a true family law emergency, how Zoom hearings changed the court system, and some of the most memorable courtroom moments Judge Kaye has witnessed along the way. Along the way, the group dives into legal movies, divorce stories, bad movies, courtroom decorum, and why showing up to court from your bathtub is never a good idea. In this episode:  ✅ What a judicial officer does  ✅ How Fulton County Family Court operates  ✅ 30-day, 60-day, and 120-day status conferences  ✅ Temporary hearings and contempt actions  ✅ Emergency motions in family law cases  ✅ Zoom court etiquette and courtroom decorum  ✅ Common mistakes litigants make  ✅ Why Fulton County cases often move faster  ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 00:42 Meet Judge Scott Kaye 02:57 From Emory to Family Law 05:35 What Is a Judicial Officer? 07:08 Why Fulton County Has a Family Division 09:53 Understanding Status Conferences 11:24 What Cases Judicial Officers Hear 13:15 What Litigants Need to Know About Court 14:00 Zoom Court Horror Stories 15:13 Courtroom Decorum for Attorneys 18:55 How Fulton County Created Zoom Court 19:48 Why Fulton Handles So Many Family Law Cases 20:18 Judge Kaye's Life Outside the Courtroom 21:15 Favorite Legal and Divorce Movies 24:00 Is Kill Bill the Ultimate Baby Mama Drama? 25:51 The Best Judicial Officers in Fulton County 27:30 Memorable Family Law Cases 31:00 Children of the Underground & Family Court Emergencies 33:00 What Really Qualifies as an Emergency? 35:10 The Famous Fulton County 1000-4 Rule 39:50 Fulton vs. Gwinnett Family Court 41:40 What Attorneys Should Know About Judge Kaye 44:05 Final Thoughts 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/RGv9SBr_N1g or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Inside Family Court: Judge Scott Kaye Explains What Really Happens | Lawyers Without Billboards - S2 Ep25
  8. Jun 11

    Real Estate and Divorce: Protect Equity and Reduce Conflict with Jill Heineck | Lawyers Without Billboards S2- Ep24

    For many divorcing couples, the marital home is their largest asset and often one of the most emotionally charged parts of the divorce process. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve Shewmaker, Alexa Lewis, and Jimmy Lewis sit down with certified divorce real estate expert Jill Heineck to discuss how specialized real estate guidance can help families protect equity, reduce conflict, and navigate the sale of a home during divorce. Jill explains what makes divorce real estate different from a traditional home sale, why involving a divorce real estate expert early can save time and money, and how proper planning can prevent costly disputes down the road. The conversation covers everything from drafting settlement language and managing difficult parties to handling occupied homes and maximizing the value of the marital residence. Whether you're going through a divorce, considering one, or simply want to understand how real estate issues are handled in family law cases, this episode offers practical insights you won't want to miss. In This Episode:  ✔ What a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert (CDRE) does  ✔ Why timing matters when selling a marital home  ✔ Protecting equity during divorce proceedings  ✔ Common mistakes attorneys and clients make  ✔ Handling difficult co-owners and contested sales  ✔ Expert testimony and property valuations in divorce cases  ✔ How specialized real estate guidance can reduce conflict and delays About Our Guest Jill Heineck is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert (CDRE) serving the Atlanta area. She specializes in helping divorcing couples navigate the sale of marital property while protecting equity and minimizing conflict throughout the process. 🌐 Learn more: HeineckAndCompany.com ⏱️ Chapters  00:00 Introduction  00:42 Meet Jill Heineck  01:45 What Is a Certified Divorce Real Estate Expert?  03:13 How Divorce Real Estate Differs from Traditional Home Sales  05:49 Protecting Equity in the Marital Residence  06:47 Why Earlier Involvement Leads to Better Outcomes  08:22 Managing Difficult Parties and Communication Challenges  10:09 Occupied Homes, Showings, and Court Orders  12:12 Why Divorce Real Estate Requires Specialized Expertise  13:13 Reviewing Settlement Language Before It's Finalized  15:23 Attorney Communication Protocols and Client Compliance  17:25 Geographic Coverage and Working Across Georgia  20:58 Property Valuations and Testifying as an Expert  23:47 Family Law Institute and Final Thoughts  25:13 How to Contact Jill Heineck  25:57 Closing Remarks  🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/TMfSy2SP6hs or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Real Estate and Divorce: Protect Equity and Reduce Conflict with Jill Heineck | Lawyers Without Billboards S2- Ep24

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Real lawyers, real talk—without the billboards. Lawyers Without Billboards is an unfiltered look at family law, hosted by the partners of Shewmaker & Lewis: Steve and Patty Shewmaker, and Jimmy and Alexa Lewis. With decades of experience in divorce, custody battles, child support, alimony, and criminal law, they break down legal myths, share expert insights, and dive into real cases (sometimes with a side of humor). Expect candid conversations, legal deep dives, and the occasional sidebar on pop culture, legal movies, and life as family law attorneys. Whether you're navigating a family law issue, practicing law yourself, or just enjoy courtroom drama, this podcast offers valuable insights with a dose of levity. New episodes every two weeks Subscribe and listen wherever you get your podcasts!

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