Lawyers Without Billboards

Shewmaker & Lewis

Real lawyers, real talk—without the billboards. Lawyers Without Billboards is an unfiltered look at family law, hosted by the partners of Shewmaker & Lewis: Steve and Patty Shewmaker, and Jimmy and Alexa Lewis. With decades of experience in divorce, custody battles, child support, alimony, and criminal law, they break down legal myths, share expert insights, and dive into real cases (sometimes with a side of humor). Expect candid conversations, legal deep dives, and the occasional sidebar on pop culture, legal movies, and life as family law attorneys. Whether you're navigating a family law issue, practicing law yourself, or just enjoy courtroom drama, this podcast offers valuable insights with a dose of levity. New episodes every two weeks Subscribe and listen wherever you get your podcasts!

  1. 5d ago

    Courtroom Objections Part 3: Who’s Telling the Truth? | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep40

    When two people walk into court with completely different versions of what happened, how does a judge decide who to believe? In Part 3 of our courtroom objections series, the Lawyers Without Billboards team tackles character evidence, credibility, relevance, and the rules that determine what a court should and shouldn’t hear. We break down when a witness can testify about someone’s reputation for truthfulness, why specific bad acts usually can’t be used simply to prove bad character, and how cross-examination can sometimes open the door to evidence that otherwise wouldn’t come in. The conversation also covers relevance in family law, including why something that happened years ago may have little bearing on the case today, plus objections involving misstating testimony, assuming facts not in evidence, and questions that aren’t being asked in good faith. Then we get into Rule 403 and the balancing act between evidence that is genuinely probative and evidence that may be unfairly prejudicial, cumulative, confusing, or misleading. Plus, the team shares a few courtroom stories, including gruesome crime-scene evidence, a defendant posing with guns, and why lawyers sometimes need to cross-examine their own clients before anyone ever gets near a c ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 00:41 – The New Georgia Family Law Book 03:53 – Courtroom Objections Part 3 04:20 – Improper Character Evidence 07:01 – When It Becomes a “Swearing Contest” 08:43 – Character Witnesses and Truthfulness 10:05 – Cross-Examining a Character Witness 11:59 – Reputation and the Hearsay Exception 13:06 – What Counts as Relevant Evidence? 14:08 – When Old Misconduct Stops Mattering 16:38 – Why Lawyers Cross-Examine Their Own Clients 17:45 – Legal Advice From Family, Friends…and ChatGPT 20:06 – Misquoting Witnesses and Misstating Evidence 23:15 – Rule 403: Probative Value vs. Unfair Prejudice 24:23 – When Evidence Is Too Prejudicial 27:58 – The “Jesse James” Gun Photo 30:28 – Coming Up: Privilege 31:25 – Closing 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/dbctyPG_2m8 or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA #LawyersWithoutBillboards #CourtroomObjections #FamilyLaw #GeorgiaLaw #Evidence #CharacterEvidence #LegalPodcast #TrialLaw #ShewmakerAndLewis

    Courtroom Objections Part 3: Who’s Telling the Truth? | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep40
  2. Sep 24

    When Divorce Meets Bankruptcy with Guest Shayna Steinfeld | LWB S2-Ep39

    What happens when a divorce settlement collides with bankruptcy law? Bankruptcy attorney Shayna Steinfeld joins Steve, Jimmy, and Alexa to unpack the surprisingly complicated intersection between family law, debt, property settlements, support obligations, and bankruptcy. Shayna explains why a divorce decree may determine obligations between former spouses but does not necessarily prevent a bankruptcy trustee or creditors from pursuing assets later. The conversation covers everything from jointly owned homes and business debt to indemnification clauses, Chapter 7 versus Chapter 13, and the difference between a property settlement and an obligation considered “in the nature of support.” They also discuss practical ways family lawyers can better protect clients when drafting settlement agreements, what happens when one spouse files bankruptcy after divorce, and why bankruptcy issues often require specialized counsel. Along the way, Shayna shares her path into bankruptcy law, her experience as one of the relatively few attorneys working at the intersection of bankruptcy and family law, and how her career developed during a time when women were still significantly underrepresented in legal practice. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Introduction 00:41 – Meet bankruptcy attorney Shayna Steinfeld 03:28 – World War II history, travel, and books 05:21 – A Family Lawyer’s Guide to Bankruptcy 06:00 – Shayna’s bankruptcy practice and specialties 07:02 – When business debt and divorce collide 09:43 – How bankruptcy courts view divorce settlements 11:05 – Can a trustee claw back property transferred in divorce? 13:38 – Does indemnification protect a spouse? 15:55 – Chapter 7 vs. Chapter 13 and property settlements 17:18 – A real-world contempt and bankruptcy problem 18:41 – Is “in the nature of support” language enough? 21:35 – Drafting divorce agreements with bankruptcy in mind 22:51 – When family lawyers should call bankruptcy counsel 24:04 – Shayna’s career and professional accomplishments 25:15 – Women entering the legal profession in the 1980s 27:40 – What happens when a former client files bankruptcy? 29:59 – Can attorneys protect their own unpaid fees? 31:05 – Why every lawyer needs trusted referral relationships 31:51 – World War II travel and what’s still on Shayna’s bucket list 32:44 – Closing thoughts 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/s9_on2FKaSc or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    When Divorce Meets Bankruptcy with Guest Shayna Steinfeld | LWB S2-Ep39
  3. Sep 17

    From Diaries to Deathbed Statements: The Exceptions to Hearsay | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep38

    Hearsay is one of the most misunderstood concepts in the courtroom, but the rule comes with a long list of exceptions. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Alexa, Steve, Patty and Jimmy dig into the hearsay exceptions lawyers actually use, from present sense impressions and excited utterances to medical statements, recorded recollections, property records, ancient documents and even deathbed statements. The team also talks about how these exceptions show up in real family law cases, why admissibility and credibility are two very different things and why good trial lawyers should always assume the other side is going to object. And yes, somehow diaries, light bulbs and 20-year-old emails all make an appearance. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 00:59 Hearsay Exceptions: Why They Exist 02:37 Georgia’s Two Hearsay Exception Statutes 03:41 Present Sense Impression 06:20 Present Sense Impression vs. Excited Utterance 08:44 Existing Mental, Emotional or Physical Condition 11:21 Statements for Medical Diagnosis or Treatment 13:15 Recorded Recollection and Diaries 14:13 When a Journal Is Created for Litigation 16:57 Records of Vital Statistics 17:58 Religious Records and Certificates 19:01 Ancient Documents 20:39 Using Old Financial Records in Divorce Cases 22:21 Property Records and Real Estate Documents 22:59 How Trial Lawyers Prepare for Hearsay Objections 26:02 Prior Criminal Convictions 27:40 When the Declarant Is Unavailable 28:59 Former Testimony 29:09 Dying Declarations 29:28 Statements Against Interest 30:33 The Bottom Line: Assume They’ll Object 30:47 Closing 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/bmQSc27RZEQ or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    From Diaries to Deathbed Statements: The Exceptions to Hearsay | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep38
  4. Sep 10

    Is Child Support Unconstitutional? Lawyers Debunk the Internet Myth | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep37

    Can child support really be unconstitutional? According to some corners of TikTok, Instagram and the internet, the answer is yes. There’s just one problem: that isn’t what the law says. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve, Patty, Jimmy and Alexa dig into one of the stranger child support claims circulating online: that a Minnesota Supreme Court case supposedly ruled child support unconstitutional. Patty explains what the case actually decided, why the claim has been badly distorted online and how misinformation can turn into very expensive legal trouble when people try to use it in a real courtroom. The team also takes a look at a $279 “child support discharge” packet complete with courtroom scripts, “living man” language and arguments that sound suspiciously familiar to the sovereign citizen world. They also discuss: • Where child support laws came from • What the Minnesota Supreme Court actually ruled • Why child support itself was not declared unconstitutional • Whether child support can be legally “discharged” • Why internet legal scripts can backfire badly in court • Common misconceptions involving VA disability and child support • Why people often search online for the answer they want instead of the law that actually applies If you’ve ever seen a reel, video or website promising a secret legal loophole that makes child support disappear, this episode is worth a listen. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 00:51 Is child support unconstitutional? 02:45 Where did child support come from? 03:52 Child support and English canon law 05:21 The origins of child support enforcement 06:36 Child support enters federal law 07:25 The Minnesota Supreme Court claim 09:05 Holding vs. dicta 10:58 What the Minnesota case actually said 12:36 The internet’s courtroom “magic words” 12:52 The $279 child support discharge packet 15:30 Why the discharge packet won’t work 16:28 Reading the courtroom script 19:04 Child support is constitutional 20:47 The danger of online legal misinformation 21:39 VA disability and child support myths 23:03 Asking ChatGPT if child support is constitutional 24:20 Searching for the answer you want 25:01 Final takeaway 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/bmQSc27RZEQ or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Is Child Support Unconstitutional? Lawyers Debunk the Internet Myth | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep37
  5. Sep 3

    The Lautenberg Amendment: When Domestic Violence Costs You Your Gun Rights | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep36

    A misdemeanor does not always mean minor consequences. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve, Patty, Jimmy and Alexa break down the Lautenberg Amendment and how a domestic violence conviction can affect a person’s right to possess firearms under federal law. The conversation starts with the Second Amendment and the broader question of how far the government can go in regulating firearm ownership. From there, the team traces the law from the Gun Control Act of 1968 through the 1996 Lautenberg Amendment, which expanded federal firearm restrictions to certain misdemeanor domestic violence convictions and eliminated exemptions that had previously applied to members of the military and law enforcement. They also discuss constructive possession, why the exact name of the criminal charge may not determine whether federal firearm restrictions apply, and the importance of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision in United States v. Hayes. For military members, law enforcement officers, attorneys and anyone facing a domestic violence charge, the consequences can extend far beyond the courtroom ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 00:41 – Meatballs, marriage and a Chick-fil-A burrito 05:52 – Introducing the Second Amendment 07:25 – Does the Second Amendment protect an individual right? 08:47 – Can the government restrict what weapons you own? 13:24 – When can the government take away firearm rights? 13:50 – The Gun Control Act of 1968 15:42 – The original military and law enforcement loophole 18:49 – The Lautenberg Amendment of 1996 21:07 – How Lautenberg changed firearm restrictions 21:40 – 18 U.S.C. § 922(g) and who it applies to 22:19 – Constructive possession explained 23:28 – Felony convictions and firearm possession 25:29 – Misdemeanor crimes of domestic violence 27:22 – Where domestic, criminal and military law intersect 28:19 – Does the charge have to be called “domestic violence”? 29:48 – United States v. Hayes 32:10 – Why the factual basis of a plea matters 33:27 – Key takeaways from the Lautenberg Amendment 33:47 – What future episodes will cover 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/Fzs2MaX01pQ or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    The Lautenberg Amendment: When Domestic Violence Costs You Your Gun Rights | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep36
  6. Aug 27

    Judge Robert Walker on Family Law, Fairness and Life on the Bench | Lawyers Without Billboards S2 Ep35

    What does a judge really want to see when attorneys and litigants walk into the courtroom? In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve Shewmaker, Jimmy Lewis and Alexa Lewis sit down with Judge Robert Walker of Gwinnett County for a candid conversation about family law, courtroom professionalism and nearly two decades on the bench. Judge Walker shares his path from the University of Florida College of Law to eight years as an Air Force JAG officer, where he worked both prosecution and defense, followed by time in the Fulton County District Attorney’s Office and private practice before becoming a Gwinnett County magistrate judge in 2008. The conversation turns to the realities of domestic cases, why resolving issues before trial matters, when mediation makes sense and what Judge Walker wants attorneys to remember when emotions run high in family court. Plus, Jimmy recalls one of his earliest hearings in front of Judge Walker, the group talks about what makes the Gwinnett County courts unique, and Judge Walker weighs in on A Few Good Men, My Cousin Vinny, Animal House, Star Trek vs. Star Wars and life outside the courtroom. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 00:49 Meet Judge Robert Walker 03:31 The role of Gwinnett County magistrate judges 04:43 Why family law matters 05:30 From law school to Air Force JAG 08:53 Leaving the Air Force and coming to Atlanta 11:16 Prosecuting in Fulton County 12:00 Private practice and becoming a judge 13:24 Judge Walker’s current caseload 14:43 Family, law school and the next generation 17:53 Would Judge Walker move to Superior Court? 18:33 What lawyers can do to make a judge’s job easier 20:39 When should parties mediate? 21:46 Jimmy’s first hearing with Judge Walker 23:47 What Judge Walker wants people to know about Gwinnett courts 25:54 The Gwinnett courthouse experience 27:16 Steve’s unusual Berlin Wall story 28:46 Judge Walker’s favorite movies 30:43 Life outside the courtroom 33:04 Final thoughts with Judge Walker 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here:https://youtu.be/urYUOzeIlv4 or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Judge Robert Walker on Family Law, Fairness and Life on the Bench | Lawyers Without Billboards S2 Ep35
  7. Aug 20

    Bankruptcy During Divorce: What Happens to Support, Property and Debt? | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep34

    What happens when bankruptcy crashes into a divorce case? Bankruptcy attorney Ian Falcone joins Steve, Patty and Alexa to explain how bankruptcy can affect divorce proceedings, support obligations, property settlements, attorney’s fees, joint debt and real estate. Ian breaks down the differences between Chapters 7, 11, 12 and 13, then explains one of the most important concepts in bankruptcy law: the automatic stay. The group discusses what may pause when bankruptcy is filed during a divorce, what can continue and why the answer often depends heavily on the facts. They also explore whether child support, alimony, extracurricular expenses, car payments, attorney’s fees and other divorce-related obligations can be discharged. Ian explains why simply labeling something “support” may not make it support in bankruptcy court and why carefully drafted settlement agreements and indemnification provisions matter. Finally, Ian shares a critical warning for divorce attorneys and spouses dealing with real estate: when a house is titled in only one spouse’s name, filing a lis pendens early may help protect the other spouse’s interest if bankruptcy is later filed. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 Introduction 01:10 Meet bankruptcy attorney Ian Falcone 04:40 From “threshold law” to bankruptcy practice 07:20 When divorce and bankruptcy intersect 10:17 Understanding Chapters 7, 11, 12 and 13 12:46 Why people with assets sometimes file bankruptcy 15:05 What happens when bankruptcy is filed during divorce 15:36 The automatic stay explained 16:40 What divorce issues may continue despite bankruptcy 18:52 Why violating the automatic stay can be risky 21:58 Criminal actions, civil actions and contempt 24:40 Why bankruptcy answers are often fact-specific 27:18 Can divorce-related debt be discharged? 28:10 What counts as a domestic support obligation? 29:44 Cars, insurance, college expenses and attorney’s fees 31:00 Drafting agreements to protect support obligations 33:17 Why labels do not control in bankruptcy court 35:19 Why indemnification language matters 37:17 Chapter 7 versus Chapter 13 divorce debt 39:17 Protecting a home with a lis pendens 41:34 Rising bankruptcy filings and struggling businesses 43:14 Final thoughts 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards.  Connect with bankruptcy attorney Ian Falcone: https://www.falconefirm.com/ 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/BNnEoXfG-58 or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Bankruptcy During Divorce: What Happens to Support, Property and Debt? | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep34
  8. Aug 13

    Parenting Plans Explained: Custody Schedules, 50/50 and What Works | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep33

    A parenting plan is more than a calendar. It determines how parents will make major decisions, where children will spend their time and how everyday parenting will work after a divorce. In this episode of Lawyers Without Billboards, Steve, Patty, Jimmy and Alexa break down what goes into a Georgia parenting plan, including legal custody, final decision-making authority, regular parenting schedules and the growing variety of 50/50 custody arrangements. They explain the differences between week-on/week-off, 2-2-5-5 and 2-2-3 schedules, why some arrangements create more confusion than stability and how work schedules, school locations, commuting distances and a child’s age can affect what is practical. The team also discusses why there may be no true “standard” parenting schedule and why parents should focus less on counting days and more on creating a plan that genuinely works for their children. ⏱️ Chapters 00:00 – Welcome to Lawyers Without Billboards 02:09 – Is a parenting plan required in Georgia? 03:38 – The paperwork involved in a divorce with children 05:20 – Why self-represented parents often struggle with the process 08:13 – What a parenting plan actually covers 09:01 – Understanding legal custody 10:40 – Final decision-making authority 11:08 – The four major areas of parental decision-making 11:51 – Technology, smartphones and social media 12:45 – Dividing medical, educational and other decisions 13:42 – When parenting plans become too complicated 15:50 – Regular parenting time versus holiday parenting time 17:09 – What is considered a “standard” custody schedule? 17:28 – How parenting schedules have changed over time 18:36 – When judges favor 50/50 custody 20:48 – Why parenting schedules must fit real life 21:45 – Work schedules, commuting and distance between parents 23:16 – The trend toward expanded parenting time 23:36 – Why living near your co-parent can matter 25:28 – Different versions of 50/50 custody 25:36 – How a 2-2-5-5 schedule works 25:55 – How a 2-2-3 schedule works 27:21 – Week-on/week-off custody 27:41 – Parenting schedules for younger children 28:49 – Focusing on what is best for the child 29:54 – More parenting-plan topics still to come 🔔 Subscribe for candid conversations about family law, relationships, and the legal system - without the billboards. 🎙️ Hosts: Steve & Patty Shewmaker, Jimmy & Alexa Lewis  🎧 Watch here: https://youtu.be/w-0pd0MJ_ko or listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, and more. 📩 Contact: pshewmaker@shewmakerandlewis.com | (770) 939-1939 🌐 Website: https://www.shewmakerandlewis.com 🎧 Podcast Library: https://shewmakerandlewis.com/lawyers-without-billboards 🎼 Music by Ben Hernandez – Dragonsong Productions 🎥 Produced by: Bleeding Edge, Inc. 🎬 Audio & Video Production: Rob Burgner 📍 Recorded at: Shewmaker & Lewis, Atlanta, GA

    Parenting Plans Explained: Custody Schedules, 50/50 and What Works | Lawyers Without Billboards S2-Ep33

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Real lawyers, real talk—without the billboards. Lawyers Without Billboards is an unfiltered look at family law, hosted by the partners of Shewmaker & Lewis: Steve and Patty Shewmaker, and Jimmy and Alexa Lewis. With decades of experience in divorce, custody battles, child support, alimony, and criminal law, they break down legal myths, share expert insights, and dive into real cases (sometimes with a side of humor). Expect candid conversations, legal deep dives, and the occasional sidebar on pop culture, legal movies, and life as family law attorneys. Whether you're navigating a family law issue, practicing law yourself, or just enjoy courtroom drama, this podcast offers valuable insights with a dose of levity. New episodes every two weeks Subscribe and listen wherever you get your podcasts!

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