Heart + Head Work

MAVEN Founders (Tessa Arneson & Rocky Donati)

Maven is a community that empowers women through the creation of safe spaces and intentional connections rooted in love and curiosity.Heart + Head Work honors the journey of becoming and how nurturing the pieces of our selves becomes the foundation for showing up for others. Hosted by Tessa & Rocky, co-founders of Maven, this podcast holds space for the intimate questions we carry and the lived moments that shape us. Through candid conversations and real stories, we explore how empowering our whole selves creates deeper connection, shared belonging, and brighter communities.

  1. Nov 2

    We Need to Rethink Wellness

    What if wellness isn't about pushing harder, doing more, or becoming a better version of yourself—but learning to listen to the person you already are? Sofia, founder of Feral State, joins Rocky and Tessa for a conversation about embodiment, women's worth, and reimagining what it means to be well. Drawing on decades of experience in dance, movement, and teaching—including her work with incarcerated women—Sofia challenges the ways we've learned to disconnect from our bodies and look outside ourselves for answers. Together, they explore the invisible labor women carry, the pressure to earn our worth through productivity, and the difference between performing wellness and actually healing. From breathwork and movement to rest, intuition, and community, this conversation is an invitation to become curious about what your body has been trying to tell you. In this episode we unpack: - Why women's expertise is so often dismissed as “magic” - Invisible labor, productivity, and self-worth - Rethinking the wellness industry - Breathwork, movement, and reconnecting with the body - Learning to trust your own inner knowing - The difference between pushing through and showing up fully - Rest as an essential part of wellness - Healing through creativity, connection, and community Maybe you don't need someone else to give you the answers. Maybe the invitation is to begin listening to yourself. CONNECT WITH SOFIA Feral State — Embodiment, movement, breathwork, and creative practices   www.feralslc.com Sofia on Instagram   @feralstateslc Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    We Need to Rethink Wellness
  2. Oct 19

    What Great Leaders Understand About People

    What if the most powerful thing we can offer someone isn't a solution, but the space to feel seen? Salt Lake City Councilmember Erika Carlson joins Rocky and Tessa for a conversation about compassion, grief, community, and what it means to lead with humanity. From her experience bringing an angry room of neighbors together through a moment of shared grief to the Buddhist teaching of the *second arrow*, Erika offers a different way of understanding suffering—and the stories we add to it. Together, they explore how our experiences of loss and feeling different can become sources of compassion, how small moments of connection build belonging, and why making space for difficult emotions can change the way we relate to ourselves and one another. In this episode: - Leading with compassion and making people feel seen - The connection between grief, suffering, and service - Buddhism and the story of the second arrow - Turning experiences of exclusion into empathy - The meaning of giving, including Erika's kidney donation - Acceptance, mortality, and learning to “let it be” - Finding connection in our communities, even through disagreement A conversation about what becomes possible when we stop trying to fix every feeling and start making room for our shared humanity. RESOURCES MENTIONED Women Who Run With the Wolves — Clarissa Pinkola Estés https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/46712/women-who-run-with-the-wolves-by-clarissa-pinkola-estes-phd/ Mary Oliver — Poetry and reflections on nature, attention, and prayer https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/mary-oliver Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    What Great Leaders Understand About People
  3. Oct 6

    You’re Allowed to Become Someone New

    What happens when the identities you've spent a lifetime building begin to fall away? Brooke Lark joins Rocky and Tessa for a conversation about entering what Hindu philosophy calls the forest-dweller stage—a season of turning inward, loosening your grip on who you've been, and discovering who you might become next. For Brooke, that has looked like becoming an empty nester, selling her studio and home, entering her 50s, and watching identities she once thought were permanent begin to disappear.     Together, they explore the invisible rules we inherit, the ways women learn to self-police, listening to the body, allowing ourselves to change, and the freedom of realizing there may be many versions of us within a single lifetime. The conversation also moves into Brooke's experiences with psychedelics and plant medicine—including mushrooms and ayahuasca—and how those experiences have influenced the way she understands herself, her voice, and her relationship with the world. It's a conversation about identity, weirdness, wisdom, and what might be waiting on the other side of the rules we didn't realize we'd made for ourselves. In this episode: - The four stages of life and becoming a “forest dweller” - What happens when familiar identities begin falling away - The invisible rules we inherit—and eventually enforce on ourselves - Self-expression, femininity and finding your own voice - Plant medicine, psychedelics and Brooke's medicine path - Learning to trust your body and your own ways of knowing - Allowing yourself to live more than one life in a lifetime Connect with Brooke Lark Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/brookelark/?hl=en Good Mama Magic — Brooke's nine-episode audio series exploring her story, including the experiences with ayahuasca she discusses in this conversation.     https://open.spotify.com/show/3yhIspUhtoNSnfUzSmRpWy?si=b4748165dbf64eca Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    You’re Allowed to Become Someone New
  4. Sep 21

    When Your Body Forces You to Slow Down

    What if your body isn't betraying you? What if it's trying to communicate? In this episode of Heart + Head Work, Rocky Donati and Tessa Arneson step away from their usual conversations around business and real estate to talk about something underneath nearly everything they do: wellness, intuition, and learning how to listen to your own body. Both Rocky and Tessa have experienced seasons when injury, illness, burnout, anxiety, pain, or other physical symptoms forced them to change the way they related to their bodies. In this conversation, Tessa shares that she has recently received a diagnosis of cervical dystonia after developing an unexplained head tremor—putting her once again at the beginning of navigating doctors, treatments, information, uncertainty, and the question: What does my body actually need? Together, they explore what it means to become an active participant in your own healing. Not by rejecting doctors. Not by assuming intuition has every answer. And not by pretending every physical problem can be solved by simply “listening harder.” Instead, they talk about gathering expertise, building a team, considering different approaches, and then learning to bring all of that information back to the person who actually has to live inside the body being treated: you. They also dig into a pattern they've witnessed again and again among high-performing women: pushing, achieving, saying yes, overriding exhaustion, and continuing until eventually the body gets louder. What happens when, instead of treating your body like the thing preventing you from living your life, you begin treating it like a partner? Maybe healing isn't always about fighting harder. Maybe sometimes it's about slowing down, gathering information, experimenting, surrendering—and rebuilding a language with yourself that you were taught to ignore. In this episode: - Why Maven talks so much about wellness - Rocky's recent cervical dystonia diagnosis - Navigating conflicting medical and wellness advice - Intuition as part of—not a replacement for—your healthcare team - Tessa's experience with chronic back pain - The connection between high performance and burnout - What happens when we continually override our bodies - Relearning your body's “native language” - Why healing looks different for every person - Becoming the person in the driver's seat of your care - Why sometimes the answer is less, not more - Surrendering instead of constantly trying to fix - Turning your body from an adversary into a friend - Trusting your no—and your yes For anyone currently in the confusing middle of an injury, illness, burnout, or something you haven't quite figured out yet, this conversation is an invitation to stay close to yourself. Gather the information. Build your team. Ask questions. Try things. And through all of it, keep listening. Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    When Your Body Forces You to Slow Down
  5. Sep 7

    Why Women Need to Talk About Money

    In this episode of Heart + Head Work, Rocky Donati and Tessa Arneson sit down with Jackie Zenner—investor, philanthropist, entrepreneur, former Goldman Sachs partner, farmer, line dancer, and, apparently, rapper—for an honest conversation about women, money, power, and what financial freedom actually means. Jackie shares her journey from a small town in British Columbia to Wall Street, where she became the youngest woman and first female trader to be made partner at Goldman Sachs. As her financial success grew, so did her awareness of how differently women experience money, access, power, and opportunity—and that work eventually became a central purpose in her life. But this conversation isn't simply about earning more, saving more, or investing better. Together, they explore the emotional and systemic realities underneath our relationship with money: the stories we inherited, the shame we carry, the behaviors we developed, the structures we live inside, and the very real differences between having financial information and actually having enough money. Jackie challenges the idea that financial struggle is simply a personal failure. Our money stories are shaped by our identities, histories, culture, capitalism, patriarchy, consumerism, access, income, and the rights women have only relatively recently gained. At the same time, she makes room for personal agency: understanding what isn't ours to blame so we can more clearly see what is ours to work with. The conversation also gets deeply honest about privilege. Rocky reflects on realizing that the financial questions she was prepared to answer weren't necessarily the questions her audience needed, while the group wrestles with what it means to talk about financial freedom from a place of already having it. Together, we unpack: - Why money and power are so deeply connected - What financial freedom actually gives us: choice, time, and agency - Jackie's experience as a woman on Wall Street - Why women have historically been excluded from financial power - Money trauma, scarcity, shame, and identity - The difference between overspending, excessive spending, and underspending - Why financial education alone can't solve financial insecurity - The systems working against women's financial wellness - How privilege changes the way we experience and talk about money - Why people with less money may actually have to be better at managing it - The pressure women feel to constantly do more and make more impact - How joy, movement, friendship, and even line dancing help sustain the work - The Great Wealth Transfer and what more wealth in women's hands could make possible Resources Mentioned The Trauma of Money — Chantel Chapman A resource Jackie references for understanding the relationship between money, trauma, scarcity, identity, and behavior. The Wealth Ladder Jackie references this book in discussing how financial decisions change depending on a person's level of wealth and why spending behavior needs context. Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    Why Women Need to Talk About Money
  6. Aug 24

    They Said We Had No Business Investing

    In this episode of Heart + Head Work, Rocky Donati and Tessa Arneson sit down with venture capitalist, entrepreneur, and Beta Boom co-founder Kimmy Paluch for a conversation about risk, inequity, criticism, resilience, and what it actually means to choose to be part of the solution. Born and raised in Jamaica, Kimmy eventually built a career in Silicon Valley before she and her husband made a massive leap: selling what they had, leaving the Bay Area, moving their family to Utah, and building a venture firm designed to invest differently. But this conversation isn't really about venture capital. It's about what happens when you see something that isn't working and decide you can no longer sit on the sidelines. Kimmy opens up about the experiences that shaped her perspective, the inequities she could no longer ignore, and what it takes to keep moving when people tell you your idea won't work—or criticize the way you're trying to make a difference. Together, they explore how to discern criticism worth listening to from criticism coming from the "cheap seats," why meaningful work requires both conviction and humility, and how we can fight broken systems without losing our ability to see the humanity in the people standing across from us. Together, we unpack: -Growing up in Jamaica and the experiences that shaped Kimmy's -worldview -Leaving Silicon Valley and asking, "Why not here?" -Taking enormous risks without knowing whether they'll work -Why Kimmy chose to enter venture capital -Inequity, access, and who gets the opportunity to build -Being part of the solution instead of sitting on the sidelines -How to handle criticism when you're doing visible work -"Criticism from the cheap seats" versus feedback from people in the arena -Fighting systems and ideas without dehumanizing people -The importance of common ground -Partnership, encouragement, and having people who remind us what we're capable of -Why even seemingly small contributions can create meaningful change This episode is a conversation about action without certainty, conviction without dehumanization, and the courage to keep doing the work even when you don't know exactly how it will turn out. Resources Mentioned Beta Boom - https://www.betaboom.com Learn more about Kimmy and Beta Boom's work investing in early-stage founders and companies. Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    They Said We Had No Business Investing
  7. Aug 10

    The Best Creatives Don't Chase Validation

    What if collaboration isn't compromise? What if it's actually one of the most creative acts we can practice? In this episode of Heart + Head Work, Rocky Donati and Tessa Arneson sit down with filmmakers Amy Redford and Skye Emerson, the creative duo behind Red Sky Stories, for a conversation about storytelling, identity, creativity, leadership, and what happens when we make space for curiosity instead of ego. Together they explore what it means to claim the identity of "creative," why representation matters, how collaboration can strengthen rather than dilute great work, and why the best stories often begin with a simple question: "What if?" Along the way, they discuss directing, writing, women in leadership, building healthy creative partnerships, and the courage to create something that doesn't yet exist. Whether you're making films, building a business, raising children, or simply trying to create a meaningful life, this conversation is a reminder that the most beautiful work rarely comes from doing it alone. Together, we explore: - Learning to call yourself a creative - Why representation changes what's possible - Women leading in film and creative spaces - The difference between collaboration and compromise - Why curiosity belongs at the center of creativity - Building trust inside creative partnerships - Creating environments where everyone contributes - How stories begin with "What if?" - Leadership through openness instead of ego - Building something larger than yourself The best stories aren't created by one person protecting an idea—they're built by people willing to make the idea better together. Resources Mentioned 🎬 Little Genes (short film)https://littlegenesfilm.com/ 🎬 RedSkye Stories  https://redskye.co/ Follow Amy Redford and Skye Emerson to learn more about their upcoming projects and films. Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    The Best Creatives Don't Chase Validation
  8. Jul 27

    Faith It Til' You Make It

    In this episode of Heart + Head Work, Rocky Donati and Tessa Arneson sit down with Dr. Sidni Shorter—President & CEO of the Utah Black Chamber—for a conversation that quickly moves beyond leadership and into identity, self-worth, authenticity, service, grief, and the lifelong work of becoming who we already are. Together, they explore how childhood experiences shape our beliefs about love, achievement, and belonging, why so many of us spend years seeking validation outside ourselves, and what begins to change when we stop performing and start living from our own inner knowing. Along the way they discuss leadership, faith, intuition, grief, ancestry, boundaries, service, and the courage it takes to choose yourself—not instead of others, but so you can offer your whole self to the people you love. This conversation is both deeply personal and universally human—a reminder that perhaps our greatest work isn't becoming someone new, but remembering who we've been all along. Together, we unpack: - What creates genuine presence - The hidden belief: "If I'm excellent, then I'm loved." - Authenticity versus performance - Leadership rooted in service - Learning to trust your own inner voice - Why validation can quietly shape our lives - Grief, healing, and giving ourselves grace - Boundaries without guilt - Finding your own path instead of someone else's - Building a life from authenticity rather than expectation Sometimes the most meaningful transformations don't happen because we become someone different—they happen because we finally stop hiding who we already are. Resources Mentioned Utah Black Chamber https://utahblackchamber.com Learn more about the Utah Black Chamber, upcoming events, business resources, and opportunities to support entrepreneurs and communities across Utah. Connect with us! 💬 Join the conversation in our private network on BFF  https://links.geneva.com/invite/af6ecd07-9070-43b7-9629-7aaa166aa131 📲 Follow us on Instagram instagram.com/maven.community ✨ And if this episode moved you, sharing it with a friend helps more women find us. More at → mavenslc.com

    Faith It Til' You Make It

Ratings & Reviews

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Maven is a community that empowers women through the creation of safe spaces and intentional connections rooted in love and curiosity.Heart + Head Work honors the journey of becoming and how nurturing the pieces of our selves becomes the foundation for showing up for others. Hosted by Tessa & Rocky, co-founders of Maven, this podcast holds space for the intimate questions we carry and the lived moments that shape us. Through candid conversations and real stories, we explore how empowering our whole selves creates deeper connection, shared belonging, and brighter communities.

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