The Queer Love Podcast

Jerry Portwood

What do we know about love? Find, accept and explore love and commitment among gay, lesbian and trans people in queer relationships through storytelling and interviews with LGBTQ+ folx. queerloveproject.substack.com

  1. 3d ago

    Praying to the Great La: The Queer, Non-binary Writer on Facing Mortality With Love

    I don’t remember how I first stumbled upon the Substack for La | queer, non-binary author and began reading the “Queer Old Me” series. It’s one of those serendipitous realities of Substack that I’ve come to cherish. I soon learned that La lives in Madrid, has a tumor they’ve named Bruno and is an incredible writer who is hurtling through life with joy and passion. I recently shared an essay on my Mostly Fans personal Substack in which I explained how impressed I am by those who create in a language other than their “mother tongue” and how author Jhumpa Lahiri called English her “hairy, sweaty teenager” that she’s had to wrestle with (before she embraced Italian as her baby language). Most English speakers (and writers) rarely master another language well enough to be able to write elegantly in it, so maybe that’s why I’m so gobsmacked when I encounter others who appear to navigate the linguistic terrain with such ease. La fascinates me, and I’m so glad I had the opportunity to have this conversation about their writing, their journey around the globe, and their experience with the realities of healthcare during this transformative moment of their incredible life. I knew we were going to have an interesting time; I did not predict I’d be so enthralled by La that I’d want to schedule a follow up as soon as possible! If you haven’t read La’s work, you should start here. And if you’re curious where the moniker comes from, yes it was inspired by Russell T. Davies’ phenomenal television series It’s a Sin. I’ve written about it, calling it the “most important show about queer love that you (probably) haven’t watched),” so perhaps that’s why La found me? I figured we would talk about that a bit more, but La had other stories that needed to be shared first. I was just strapped in and enjoying the ride! In a nutshell, La was born and raised in France, moved to London and experienced the gay frivolities of that city before realizing they didn’t want to get stuck in a rut. So what did they do? Move to Ecuador, of course! They began teaching English in Cuenca, Ecuador’s third largest city, which they described as perfect, perpetual spring weather. While there, they not only learned Spanish, but they embedded themself in the community and helped organize the first Miss International Trans Ecuador pageant. So what does one do after having all this fun? Why, move to Moscow of course! “Who convinced you to move to Moscow?” I asked La. “Nobody did. The plan was I was young. I had hair,” La replied. “The plan was: I didn’t want to be a tourist. I don’t enjoy being a tourist. I thought, I’m going to go to places. I’m going to live there for a year or two, fully embed myself in the culture and the people and what they’re doing, and then help by teaching English while I’m there. … I went, why not? They pay really well. I knew nothing about what it was like to be there. I learned a lot, and I regretted every decision I made while I was there.” Turns out, Russia is NOT a great place for a vivacious queer person to live, so when giving the chance, La moved to Madrid and took up residence in Cheuca, the vibrant gayborhood in Spain’s capital city. If you’ve never been, Madrid is one of the most dynamic cities in the world, has a huge LGBTQ+ population and amazing nightlife and culture. You’ll have fun even if you don’t speak much Spanish (but it will help if you do), so what are you waiting for? I asked La what their trick was to be able to move to foreign cultures where they don’t speak the language and manage to thrive despite the odds. “I think you have to let go,” La explained. “You really have to let go. You have to let go of all the mistakes you’re going to make. The mistakes are going to help.” “People are not going to understand you. I mean, there’s a time that I remember where I mimed a chicken laying an egg in the middle of a shop because they could not understand that I wanted an egg. So I’m like, ‘OK, I’m going to...’ You have to find a way.” Facing mortality Because all of us who’ve been following La’s story are curious how they’re doing, I asked how things are going with their health. La was blunt and honest as always (this begins around the 15:12-minute mark): “I’m doing great, actually. I’m doing really, really well. This has been... I have gone through s**t in my life. My life is just... Aside from the traveling, I’ve got loads of trouble in my childhood. I’ve gone through all of it. And then this has probably been the most transformative experience of my life. “I’m a completely different person than I was when I started writing. Just me six months ago is a different person, completely different person. … “I guess, I mean, you know, in episodes to come, spoilers ahead, I’m kind of faced with death. Like I have, I’m in a hospital bed, 40 fever. I just had another surgery. I’m alone. There’s a heat wave, and I have a doctor who looks at me and goes, oh, this is not good. And I’m just— It’s 3 o’clock in the morning, and you don’t see a doctor, like when you’re in a hospital. You don’t see a doctor at 3 o’clock in the morning. They’re not there. You see a nurse. “So when you see a doctor, you go, ‘Oh, there’s a doctor.’ And then the doctor goes [makes face and bad sound], and then I’m sweating and I’m shaking and I’m in pain. I’m in pain from the surgery. I’m in pain from the fever. I have an infection. I’m like, this s**t has hit the fan. You know what I mean? “And I’m like, ‘Oh, god. That’s it. I’m done. Okay. I mean, I’ve had a really great life. Don’t get me wrong. Like, I’m not afraid to die, per se. But I’m afraid to suffer. I don’t want the pain. I’m okay with dying. I’ve had an incredible life. I’ve made the best out of my circumstances. But pain, I was like, ‘I don’t want pain. Not fun.’ “Then, yes, I spent a couple of days like that, and it felt like facing death. And then I was like, ‘OK.’ But like, properly—I don’t know how to explain it. I felt like I’ve been in life-threatening situations before, but not to that degree. Like it felt concrete. It felt like it was the end. And that kind of, I made peace somehow. I made peace with everything. And then I made it through.” Gender Expression: Finding They/Them I had questions about discovering what gender non-binary is and the birth of La as an identity, and the following explanation was quite beautiful to hear (it begins around the 31-minute mark). “I think for me, the Me Too movement was the first, was something that impacted me significantly. Like it opened my eyes to things I was kind of aware of, but not to the degree of it, because I do not date women and I’m not in the straight world. And then I started having conversations with my girlfriends about being harassed in the street. I’m like, ‘You’re getting harassed in the street? Where you live? What?” And it’s just like, and it impacted me, and I kind of had to look back within as well. I’m like, ‘Oh, is there a moment where I said yes, but I meant no? And have I gone through situations where—within our community—there’s a lot of times, at least in my case, when I found myself in the situation, I’m like, ‘I’m going through the motion here. And I’m just waiting for this to end.’ Or I’m doing this against my will. There’s been a lot of those. So the Me Too really opened something that; it unlocked something. “Then a few years later, I’m lucky enough that I’ve been able to go to therapy. And I have an incredible therapist who’s helped me change my life several times. And then I realized that I came to a point where I realized I had a lot of internalized homophobia still, even though I was a person in their forties who’s always been really loud about being a f****t. I’m like, ‘I’m a f****t! And I want to show the world that I am!’ “Once I kind of started to deal with the internalized homophobia and then kind of deconstruct it, I was able to look at my gender expression and where I sat on the gender binary. And finding non-binariness just was, I don’t know, it felt like an evidence. Like it just, of course, of course, that’s what it is! Of course, this is where you sit exactly! “I remember doing all that work in my head, and I was sitting on my sofa that I talk about a lot—because I love my sofa so much—and I’m right in the middle of the two cushions. I’m going like this, and I’m there, and I’m like, ‘Oh, it feels like non-binariness. It feels like I’m exactly in that little kind of nook that is not this. It’s not that. I’m just there.” … “So once I found like that little nook in my sofa, and I’m like, “OK, this is where I’m at. I came out as non-binary. I told people that I was non-binary, but that’s kind of where I left it. I was like, I don’t need you to validate me or anything. I’m OK. And then the tumor is the one I went, ‘No, no, no, no, no. OK. They, them. That’s what I want. If you’re not happy, I don’t care. F**k off.” The Artist’s Way and Praying to La, Their Higher Self La mentioned that they have been doing The Artist’s Way. Julia Cameron’s book keeps coming up in various ways in my life. I first encountered it when I was a freshman in college back in the mid-1990s. The book was originally self-published in 1992 and later became a bestseller and has been in popular ever since and is an entire cottage industry (on top of the 30th anniversary edition, there are workbooks and workshops and a slew of other merchandise). To be honest, I’ve never finished the full 12-week program. But two foundational tools at the heart of The Artist's Way—Morning Pages and the Artist’s Date—have stayed with me. Together, they act as a hands-on way to help r

  2. Sep 25

    Ryan O’Connell: ‘Open Relationships Are Very Personal—Not a Cut & Paste Job’

    You probably know Ryan O’Connell’s work by now. The writer, actor, and creator who has spent over a decade systematically dismantling how the world views queer and disabled lives—usually while making us laugh until we cry. He’s the Emmy-nominated mastermind behind the groundbreaking Netflix series Special—which contained some of the most honest and realistic portrayals of gay male sex and dating ever to appear on TV—and he’s the author of the razor-sharp 2023 novel Just by Looking at Him. This summer, he published a hilarious, unfiltered, and deeply moving new memoir, Inspiration Porn, which reclaims his narrative, charts his relationship evolution, and takes an unapologetic look at the wild ride of disabled queer joy. I’ve enjoyed his work for along time, and I was eager to talk about so many areas of LGBTQ+ life that Ryan navigates so deftly—in particular his open relationship with his long-term partner Jonathan Parks-Ramage (who he met at Grimes’ birthday part of all places), who is also an author and screenwriter (his novel Yes, Daddy has been on my TBR for quite a while and I guess it’s about time I finally read it). We talked at length about his “cumspringa,” as he calls it in the memoir, and the “Slut Diaries” that he’s now adapted into a play. I’ll let you listen to the entire conversation, but this statement from Ryan felt especially important, so I wanted wanted to share a chunk here: “I don’t think a healthy relationship should ever hinder anybody’s growth. Growth outside the relationship is really important, and it allows the relationship itself to grow. “Jonathan knew that I had been kind of wanting to be promiscuous because I’d never had that moment for myself. And Jonathan immediately into our courtship was sort of like, ‘Yeah, you should go f**k around—you never did that. So like at some point you should absolutely feel like you need to do that.’ You know, I started very much in earnest. “My bridge to that was sort of using it through erotic massage and sex work. So that way it was very transactional and it was very neat. And then, at a certain point—it was like seven years into our relationship—I was ready to graduate. And I was ready to actually experience potential rejection and not get what I want. That was an important texture to what I wanted to do. “Look, the decision to open your relationship or not is very personal. It’s not a copy and paste job whatsoever. But I think my own personal belief is that I want to always grow. “And I think that people in relationships get scared of that. I think in relationships, you sort of sign this contract, implicitly, that says: ‘I’m going to be this person for you, you’re going to be this person for me.’ And I think that whenever you seek out growth personally, you threaten that contract for needing to be revised. And I just don’t find it to be scary. I just don’t. I think that, you know, if the relationship is right, it will be able to grow with you. “I’ve seen people sort of flatten themselves in a relationship just in order for it to make sense, because they’re more scared of being alone than having the relationship change. And I don’t want to ever be put in that situation.” Ryan shared some profound insights into how long it take him to love his body and no longer perceiving it as a “foe.” He also said we often construct narratives around ourselves to anticipate how others will perceive us that are entirely fabricated. “With confidence, you really set the tone on how people talk and feel about you. … Confidence is like having a secret that people want to find out about.” He also explained that he now is less interested in “transactional” sex and wants more connection. What we decided should be called “30-minute demi.” Are Straight People OK? Because he has a section titled “Are Straight People OK?” (the short answer: no), I asked if he thought there was anything that he thought people in heteronormative relationships could learn from queer relationships. Here’s what he shared: “You know, it’s hard because I think that the way that gay people do relationships, it’s like, straight people can try, but we’re different. The wiring is different. I don’t mean to be so reductive—it’s giving us “Men are From Mars, Women are from Venus”—but I think that the one thing that they can take from it is communication. “I think that there’s a lot of fear around communicating your own desires in hetero relationships because you’re worried about being judged because maybe you do process sex very differently. And so it’s going to immediately be metabolized as an ‘attack’ or whatever. “And I think that I have found in gay relationships that my friends are in, that I’m in, is that we really do communicate everything. And even though it’s annoying sometimes to process, LOL, like I do think that there are parts of straight people that are just shut off in relationships in order for them to keep working. “I don’t think that you should be afraid of having a difficult conversation, period.” It was a pleasure having such an open and honest conversation with Ryan around these topics. His third book is great, and if you aren’t familar with the two seasons of Special on Netflix (inspired by his first memoir, I’m Special), check out the trailer for the first season below. Thanks again for listening and supporting! You can also like and follow the podcast on other platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts (as well as other podcast platforms). We’re offering a 20% discount to become an annual subscriber. 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  3. Sep 18

    Edgar Gomez: Finding Joy Amid the Dread

    Before I recap this fantastic conversation, I want to make sure you know about our next live reading event taking place September 20th in the Boston area to celebrate our 2-year anniversary. It is taking place at All She Wrote Books, a queer-owned bookstore in Somerville, Massachusetts, and it will include readings by Lynette D'Amico, Michael Lowenthal, Anthony DiPietro, Jingo Mante and myself. Click here for more details and to RSVP! I first met Edgar Gomez soon after I launched the Queer Love Project, while I was at a book party where he read from his first memoir, High-Risk Homosexual. In fact, he was the very first person who I asked to reply to the QLP questionnaire! So much has changed since. Not only has he released his second memoir, Alligator Tears, but Edgar got married and bought a home with his husband in Puerto Rico. Plus, as Edgar reminded us, it’s Hispanic Heritage Month (which runs Sept. 15-Oct. 15), so we had plenty to catch up about. As Edgar explained: “High-Risk Homosexual, like the title implies, is more about queerness and coming of age in terms of starting in a place of deep shame when I was a kid. To coming to Pride and sort of understanding that queerness actually is a great privilege for me and has helped me throughout my life. … I didn’t really get to delve as deeply into issues of class and the American Dream and just money that I really wanted to. “And so the second book, Alligator Tears, gave me the opportunity to. And of course, there’s still a lot of, you know, gay stuff happening. But it is really more about me trying to claw myself and my family out of poverty and figure it out. “When I read books, my two favorite things to read about within stories are how much everything costs. I’m always super excited when people drop those details. Especially in older books. It’s always like, ‘Oh, that’s how much that cost back then. And particularly because—before I even realized that I wanted to be a writer—When I just knew that there were books out there and authors, I thought they were all rich!” We both talked more about coming from working-class backgrounds and the hustle it took to create a life as a writer and how tough it still is, then we pivoted to the reality of being queer in the world and not wanting to sugarcoat it. “For example, when I’m talking about queerness and coming out of the closet, I have been tempted in the past to get rid of all the moments of suffering in the story and just focus on the joy,” Edgar explained. “But I don’t want to mislead a queer reader because Into thinking, oh, you come out of the closet and it’s going to be, you know, all, you know, sunshine and butterflies and unicorns.” Remembering Pulse 10 years later We then began talking about the Pulse nightclub shooting, which took place 10 years ago. I told Edgar about the essay I published earlier this year about how it compelled me to shoot my first gun. And Edgar reminded me about the the piece he wrote about Pink Pistols for Narratively in 2020: “My Journey Into the Secret Subculture of Gays With Guns.” We both wondered why there hadn’t been more coverage or remembrances for the tragedy that happened at Pulse, which at the time was the worst mass shooting in U.S. history. “I'm not the only person who has, at this point, experienced more than one mass shooting where, you know, it's reached this like absurd place,” Edgar said. “And so I do think that has taken some of the weight from Pulse, where there is just so... There's not much going on that people are frankly overwhelmed.” Then I asked Edgar about race and ethnicity in dating, referencing his Rumpus essay, “My Boyfriend, His Lover, and Me,” which is also included in Alligator Tears, since I think it gets at the heart of the struggle with class and whiteness and many other topics that are not often addressed openly. In it, he details a situationship he was in with a Mexican American guy who was also dating a white celebrity that Edgar was also a fan of. This “love triangle” got complicated, to say the least. But that’s not what ultimately broke them up. Edgar admitted he’s hesitant to write about romantic relationships. “Because, honestly, whether it’s a relationship or whether it’s like some kind of trauma that I’m working through, a lot of times when I write about something, it’s like I’m trying to put a period at the end of that story and just get it out of me. … I was hesitant to write that story because I thought, Once you write this, then the relationship is officially over in my brain. And once I published it, it’s weird. It’s like a flip switches. And I’m like, I’m done with this. I’ve written the end of the story. And all right, it ended in an ambiguous place. And now it is just over.” Edgar also spoke about the diversity of Latinx storytelling available. “Our stories are out there but, oftentimes, there are certain types of stories that are highlighted more than others. Whether it’s straight Latinx people or, under the ethnicity umbrella, it’s usually Mexican stories or Puerto Rican stories. “And I’m half Puerto Rican, so I always felt like that part of me, I had representation. I always had J-Lo! But Nicaragua—which is the culture that I actually grew up more with because I grew up with my mom’s side of the family and going to Nicaragua every summer for months at a time—I just felt like there was really not a lot out there. And so to get a very queer Nicaraguan story out, it just feels very, very special to me. And whenever I see another queer Nicaraguan or even just another Nicaraguan writer, I just get so, so excited. I mean, I would even say a Central American writer. A writer like John Manuel Arias, who just released Crocodilopolis, which is set in Costa Rica. Yeah, it makes me very, very excited!” To wrap things up, I asked Edgar if he had any advice for those who may be searching for love and finding it difficult to connect with others. He shared a really special realization about his mother and how he arrived at his current place of happiness. “I always thought, I don’t want to lose myself in a relationship. I don’t know how I’m going to be able to live with somebody and share that space with somebody for 24 hours a day. And I’ve realized it is a lot easier than it sounds, at least for me. “It might be that, you know, I fell in love with my husband in the pandemic when it was like truly me and him, you know, at the end of the world. And it was just us together in our literal bubble, in our safety bubble. Yeah. But I actually like sharing space with somebody—it’s kind of awesome. You get to be a DINK: double income, no kids. You know about that? And, you know, I have somebody that, you know, I can sort of share my life with and the ups and downs. And I have this support system with me everywhere that I go.” Giving his mamá more credit “And the other fear that I had was that I just wasn’t giving my family, specifically my mom, enough credit. And I always worried about getting too serious in a relationship because I thought, OK, once you start getting serious, that’s when you have to start introducing them to your family and meeting their family. Maybe that leads to a wedding and then that means inviting all the extended relatives and this and that. And because of that fear that I had, I think I kind of sabotaged a lot of my relationships. “Once I started getting serious with my husband, it reached a point where he was like: “Hey, does your mom know about me?” And I had to have this big conversation with my mom. I went to Orlando, and it was like coming out of the closet again. I was so nervous. “I got into bed with her, I was just like, “Hey, just want to let you know I’m seeing somebody.” I told her two things about him. And she didn’t say anything back. And I was like, “OK.” And I crawled out of her bed and I went into my childhood bedroom. And I kind of just sat there, you know, a little bit frozen and was like... I was almost like, OK, I guess you were right. Maybe you shouldn’t have told her about this. “I already had all these walls up where I never really told her about the queer parts of my life. But eventually, she got up, and she knocked on the door and she came in and she gave me a big hug and she said, “I’m so happy for you. And, you know, the rest was history.” “I guess I forgot that I am not the main character of the world. We are all undergoing transformations. We are all growing. And the person that she was back then is not the person that she is now. And I had to really extend that opportunity to her. And I’m so glad that I did. Because, like I said: Now, they’re besties and my relationship with my mom is also a lot stronger because we can talk about anything.” It was so lovely to hear that story from Edgar, and I hope you enjoyed it too. Thanks again for listening to the Queer Love Podcast. If you enjoyed this conversation, any of our essays or other features, consider upgrading to a paid membership tier to keep funding work like this. We’re currently celebrating our 2-year anniversary. You can also like and follow the podcast on other platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts (as well as other podcast platforms). Follow us on Instagram for more updates and fun stuff. We also have an Etsy page where you can find some of our merch! The Queer Love Project is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Queer Love Project at queerloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

  4. Sep 11

    A musical about a trans woman’s love story to heal broken hearts

    Lisa Stephen Friday makes theater out of music, memory, gender, and desire. Bernie Wagenblast has spent decades giving public spaces a voice—as a transportation journalist and the familiar voice of New York transit. Now, in A Musical for Henrietta—which was created as part of Joe’s Pub New York Voices commission—their voices meet in a rom-com about a trans woman’s love story and the unexpected routes that lead us home. The first concert production is taking place at Joe’s Pub in New York City on September 13 and 14. I was thrilled to have the opportunity to have a chance to discuss so many topics surrounding the musical. In a nutshell, A Musical for Henrietta follows Henrietta Jackson, a successful transgender museum curator whose carefully organized life is disrupted when her high-school sweetheart reappears after 30 years. The story moves between present-day New York and their teenage years in 1980s Georgia, revealing a first love shaped by transition, secrecy, family pressure, loss, and unfinished promises. Guided—and sometimes hilariously interrupted—by Bernie, the voice of the subway system, Henrietta and Alan travel through memories of first dates, school dances, missed calls, old wounds, and the possibility of opening their hearts again. As Lisa explained, Bernie was part of the pitch for the show, but she didn’t know her before she began working on it. “Being that it’s a trans woman’s story, one day I was just like, ‘Oh, my God, Bernie Wagenblast has to be the narrator! So I wrote a letter. [The people at the Public Theater] sent it to Bernie, asking her if she’d be interested in meeting with me. She was very interested.” Bernie responded right away, and a couple of weeks later, they met. "That’s how we literally met. And then we just dove right away.” As Lisa made clear: “This story is very much based on relationships and joy and healing broken hearts.” She also reminded us that it’s the job of artists to “inspire a future for ourselves.” It’s “part of our responsibility is to inform us of what the future looks like.” When we discussed the need for resistance and solidarity—and how people can organize in the face of an onslaught of ignorance and harmful legislation—Lisa recommended people return to David France’s landmark book, How to Survive a Plague. If you aren’t familiar with it, you can also get a sense of its scope from the documentary, which is streaming on Apple TV+. Finally, we wrapped things up with a simple question: What do you hope a trans audience member feels when they leave the theater? Lisa was clear that she hopes that younger trans people see themselves reflected on the stage. For those who are seeking community with others, she also urged people to find people who you are simpatico with. “I didn't realize it was going to be the start of my transition back in 2017. And I did things that the rest of the world, it was invisible to the rest of the world,” she explained. “But it allowed me to feel as if I was making some progress toward becoming that person that I always wanted to be.” Bernie echoed the need for community. “I spent so many years, even though I was very out—I’ve always been visible and out about who I am—but there was just such limited... I didn’t have other trans people in my life, really, like in my inner circle. “Now, every day is full of me talking to other trans women, which, you know, just... It’s given me this kind of understanding and this power in myself to really come to terms with. I’ve always known exactly who I was. Any of this battle that I’ve been through was not about accepting who I was.” A Musical for Henrietta is being presented Sept. 13 & 14 at Joe’s Pub in NYC. Thank you Brandon Ellrich, La - Queer, non-binary author, and many others for tuning into my live video with Bernie Wagenblast and lisa friday! If you enjoyed this episode or any of the other pieces at QLP, consider becoming a paid subscriber. We keep all our words FREE and are committed to growing our archive to share with others around the world, so your support matters. Yes, we’re still celebrating our 2-year anniversary and offering a special 20% discount to become an annual subscriber. That means you’ll pay $24 for the entire year! You can also like and follow the podcast on other platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts (as well as other podcast platforms). We also have an Etsy page where you can find some of our merch! The Queer Love Project is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Queer Love Project at queerloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

  5. Sep 5

    Zachary Zane: “I saw myself having sex in order to write about it—which made it less fun.”

    When I decided to start The Queer Love Project two years ago, one of the first people I reached out to was Zachary Zane. He’d written for publications I ran over the years—including several very important reported pieces over at Rolling Stone—and I saw how successful he’d been with his Substack platform. Although we love reading your personal essays that reveal heartbreaks, happiness, secrets, reflections on coming out, and the intersection of families and other versions of “love,” we also value the sexual encounters and the realities of dating. As QLP co-editor pointed out: Maybe your story is too horny for the New York Time’s “Modern Love” column—or too sweet for Zachary Zane’s Boyslut—which means it could be just right for QLP. (I even published a piece with him so I could see what the experience was like.) When I read Boyslut, I was intrigued by how much he packed into this manifesto of a book. It’s a supremely delicious read (and listen). As Jennie Roberson wrote for Bi.org: “Boyslut is both a juicy, tawdry, revelatory memoir and a manifesto — or, as Zane puts it, a ‘confessional call-to-arms’ for people who want to defy stigma and cast off the shackles of sexual shame. If you’re brave enough to read it, you’ll find it packed with gems. … “Bisexuality is one of the book’s major themes. Zane talks at length about the societal pressures that hindered him from proudly owning and living out his bi identity and about the shame and stigma associated with being bi, especially for men. He also discusses many other familiar aspects of bi culture: from polyamory, STIs, and hookup apps to the unique pleasures of queer love. He talks about the various denials, dismissals and discoveries along the way, as well as the joy he felt when he finally accepted his identity and became an openly bi man, while reminding us of the long and arduous journey it took to get there.” I reached out to Zachary so we could have a chat during a live and see how things have been going for him and what he’s working on next. He had plenty to share! “So I’m 35 right now. It’s like, my twenties were about sex and cultivating experiences and having as much of it as possible. … I think, even though I’ve slowed down, it’s still more than most people sexually, but I go through waves. I’m not as horny as I used to be. “The idea of going out and f*****g… I’d rather just kind of get Thai food and cuddle with my partner these days. I’ve been a little more boring, but I still have that fun boy slutty side.” We also discussed several topics related to erotica writing, essay writing, moving into fiction, and evolving as an artist. We also discussed: * The intersection of scrupulous OCD and sexual shame * We relooked at the bi vs. pan “debate” (ZZ read the definitions from the book in case you’re curious to understand it all a little better) * What ZZ looks for in an erotic essay when deciding whether to accept a BOYSLUT submission * The biggest mistakes we both see from new writers * Whether or not you should share your “wilder” sex stories * Why ZZ has been dismissed among many in the literary world because he writes more explicitly about sex * But also why he thinks it’s necessary to write explicitly about sex and how it isn’t just for “shock value” * The need to “slow down” before accidentally giving someone the Boyfriend Experience (BFE) Before I wrap up: A quick reminder for anyone who wants to get their own narrative out into the world that my six-week generative writing workshop, ‘Our Stories, Our Terms,’ kicks off on Zoom this September 15th. I’m collaborating with Project Write Now, since I love the work that they do. We’ll be reading foundational queer texts and drafting our own personal essays. If you would like to take the class but may need some financial assistance, let me know, and we can discuss scholarship and other opportunities. It’s more important that you experience this workshop in which we’ll create and share a lot of work together more than anything else. Head over to pwnwriters.org to secure your spot, and I’ll see you in class! We’re celebrating our 2-year anniversary and offering a special 20% discount to become an annual subscriber. That means you’ll pay $24 for the entire year! **(if you’re currently paying $5 a month, consider upgrading since it will save you a bundle and help keep QLP growing and publishing essays, poetry and supporting queer creativity)** Thank you Brandon Ellrich, Amy Benavides, and many others for tuning into my live video with Zachary Zane! And thanks again for listening to the Queer Love Podcast. You can also like and follow the podcast on other platforms, including YouTube, Spotify, and Apple Podcasts (as well as other podcast platforms). Follow us on Instagram for more updates and fun stuff. We also have an Etsy page where you can find some of our merch! The Queer Love Project is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Queer Love Project at queerloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

  6. Aug 31

    Jack Parlett: ‘Love is a flamboyant feeling’

    Last week, the world mourned two pioneers of radical self-expression: Tim Curry, who has been beloved for his role as Dr Frank-N-Furter in The Rocky Horror Picture Show for decades, and at the same time, country superstar and national treasure Dolly Parton. The latter spent her career using a hyper-feminine, towering, glittering flamboyance as both a superpower and an emotional shield. Dolly was basically a drag queen—and I’m not the first person to say that. She even confirmed it in interviews over the years, stating: So it felt appropriate to speak with Jack Parlett, the writer, researcher and historian of LGBTQ+ culture whose most recent book is titled Flamboyance: The Power of Living Boldly. Jack’s first book, The Poetics of Cruising, followed his graduate research on the subject and is subtitled: “Queer Visual Culture from Whitman to Grindr.” He followed that up with a wonderful book that is part historical and part memoir, titled, Fire Island: A Century in the Life of an American Paradise. All that, and he just turned 34 years old! (Yes, I’m jealous.) I began by asking Jack how he had the confidence to embark on this subject—which so many people have so many opinions on—at such a young age. I could only imagine he’s heard plenty from those who have dedicated their lives to this queer sanctuary. For example, I had just read a wonderful piece by James Dale, who has been traveling and participating in various aspects of the culture of gay Fire Island since 1993. Jack confessed it probably because he was young and naive and didn’t realize that it would provoke so many opinions. Frank O’Hara’s Poetry We also had a great discussion of Frank O’Hara, who died at the age of 40 when he was struck by a dune buggy on the beach July 25, 1966. That led to a discussion of his poetry, why it has persisted for the past 60 years, and how it inspired Jack’s own research into cruising, flamboyance and Fire Island. Plus, Jack suggested three poems to get you started: * “Meditations in an Emergency” * “Having a Coke with You” * “Mayakovsky” (which was featured in an episode of Mad Men) The Quietly Flamboyant Evolution Jack writes beautifully about sober queerness and the misconception that “sobriety is where flamboyance goes to die.” He’s noted that while writing Fire Island, he was navigating his own problematic drinking habits in a historically hedonistic space. Now that he’s a few years into recovery, I was curious how his understanding of “flamboyance” shifted? In particular: How can sobriety itself—with its radical candor and clarity—become its own powerful, intimate form of queer self-expression and love? You’ll want to listen to his answer (That’s around the 19-minute mark.) Why love is a flamboyant feeling I played a clip from the audiobook for Jack (narrated by Joe Jameson), and we discussed his statement about what it means to love flamboyantly or “to not run away from the dangers of love, as well as this quotation: “There are few people more dramatic than those with broken hearts. Few more likely to use the language of catastrophe and death to describe their feelings. Having spent most of my life in the throws of an overwhelming crush, the raw and early choked up days of a breakup or even, years henc,e pining for memories that seem to be slipping out of view…” Pop music and role models To close things out, I asked Jack a few rapid-fire questions, including: * What pop music does he turn to in times of need? Answer: After Lorde, there’s Chappel Roan (and Dolly Parton, of course). As well as Joni Mitchell. * What historical figure he’d choose to be his teenage queer role model: Answer: James Baldwin * What’s his first personal memory of wearing or doing something unapologetically flamboyant?Answer: a blue ball gown as a kid “I remember being maybe eight or nine and being around a friend’s house and we raided her mum’s wardrobe, and I wore this blue long ball gown. I’m just having the time of my life as a happy memory. It wasn’t a common occasion, but in some ways, I guess the sheer playfulness and almost fearlessness of that is That’s the project for me. It’s like working my way back to that, I think.” * Is there a piece of art, literature, or media that you think perfectly captures the essence of queer romance?Answer: The TV show Looking Of course I had plenty to add on this topic, including why I think Looking is such an important show and people need to discover it (or rewatch) if they haven’t already. Plus, I’ll give another pug for It’s a Sin! If you’re curious what Jack’s flamboyant Loewe coat looks like, here’s a recent shot of him wearing it (and is featured in this UK Sunday Times piece, which is unfortunately blocked behind a paywall). Thanks everyone for watching or listening, you can find Jack Parlett’s latest book, Flamboyance: The Power of Living Boldly, as well as his fantastic history of queer sanctuary, Fire Island: A Century in the Life of an American Paradise, everywhere books are sold. If you loved today’s episode and want to dive deeper into these stories of queer connection, please consider supporting us by upgrading to a paid subscription on our Queer Love Project Substack. Your financial support directly funds our independent queer storytelling, keeps this podcast running, and gives you exclusive access to our community archive and weekly bonus content. Get full access to The Queer Love Project at queerloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

  7. Aug 29

    What’s ‘Pink Crime’ and How Do We Overcome Biases in the Legal System?

    I met Valena Beety earlier this summer during a reading event at the Bureau of General Services—Queer Division, a cultural space and bookstore located at The Center in New York City, when she was promoting her groundbreaking book, Pink Crime: Fighting Against the Criminalization of Motherhood, Pregnancy, and Queer Identity. It’s a fascinating read and many of the cases and case studies will surprise you—especially if you’re not as familiar with some of the landmark legal cases of the past few decades (including the women known as the “San Antonio Four” who were eventually exonerated) that have sought to criminalize us. I was eager to talk to her and uncover how the American legal system weaponizes queer identity, criminalizes alternative families, and fabricates guilt out of who we love. I hope you enjoy the episode and share it with others—we keep all our posts free—and if you are experiencing any situations and need assistance you find the resources available to help in your time of need. Before I recap the talking points we covered, I wanted to address one of the questions that a person raised in the chat during our live conversation. The person asked for help in getting out of a relationship that involved “coercive control.” What is coercive control? "Coercive control is a pattern of intentional, ongoing behavior designed to exert power and dominance over another person in an intimate or family relationship. Coercive controlling behaviors go beyond isolated incidents of physical violence to include a broad range of tactics that systematically restrict a person’s autonomy, independence, and decision making over time. Coercive control can be defined as an intentional pattern of behavior that takes place over time in order for one individual to exert excessive and harmful power over another. “The effect of coercive control is to make a person dependent on their abuser by isolating them from external support, depriving them of independence, and regulating daily life in ways that erode freedom and self-determination. Experts, including domestic abuse researchers, liken the experiences of survivors in coercive control relationships to being entrapped in a world created by the abuser in which the victim’s reality, choices, and rights are systematically undermined.” We were unable to quickly provide resources for this person, but I did do some online research and found that the National Domestic Violence Hotline does offer help in such cases. Their “caring, supportive and well-trained advocates” can provide safety tips and referrals to services and resources in your community. Call 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) That said, if you are looking for support online, the Office on Women’s Health shares this important safety warning: “Anyone with access to your phone or computer can check which websites you visit. It’s not possible to clear your Internet history completely from your computer or phone. It may be safer to use a public computer, such as at a library, or a friend’s phone. ” I wish I could provide more support, but I hope this is a start and you and others are able to find the help you need. I think you’ll enjoy this episode overall—especially how we ended it by calling for more same-gender kissing and more “queer kiss-ins”! Here’s a rundown of some of what we covered during this episode. What is the "No-Crime" Phenomenon? Valena’s research shows that nearly three-quarters of exonerated women (that’s 75% y’all) were wrongfully convicted of crimes that never actually happened. I was curious how homophobia, misogyny and outdated practices act as the "evidence" that helps prosecutors secure these bogus convictions. * This includes old-world “witch trial” logic like the “float test” to modern pseudoscientific diagnoses. The system often couples bad forensics with gender bias to build a narrative of guilt. * Valena also shared how women and queer people are significantly more vulnerable to giving false confessions under police pressure. * Then there’s contemporary anti-LGBTQ+ laws that rely on historical panic surrounding queer people. The legal system currently uses malicious “groomer” narratives to criminalize just existing, for example, as a trans youth or drag performer. Weaponizing Queer Parenting In the book, Valena discusses the criminalization of parenting decisions and motherhood. She herself is married to a woman and is a parent, so she understands this fear first hand. For example, she never takes any innocent “bathtime” photos, and when her mother shared one recently, she deleted it from her phone immediately due to any perceived implications it could pose. In many ways queer parents are judged by outdated, heteronormative standards of what a "good parent" looks like. We also brought up the recent issue of “swatting” that Pete Buttigieg faced, in which an anonymous caller contacted Child Protective Services and claimed to have met Buttigieg at a conference several years ago in Alabama, “where she said I told her that I had committed unspeakable violent crimes, and the caller believed my children were still at risk.” He details it here on his own Substack in a piece titled, “A Terrible Thing Happened to My Family”: “The twenty-four hours until they returned are among the darkest hours of my life. I tried to get my head around the idea that I had been accused of something so serious that I couldn’t be alone around my own children, and had consented to have them interviewed by strangers, without my knowing where the accusation had come from or even what it contained.” Y’all, this happened to a prominent, privileged cis white man. If it can happen to him, how the hell do you think you’d react in a similar situation? Love as a Safety Net In Pink Crime, we see how isolation makes people vulnerable to wrongful convictions, while community and partnerships offer a lifeline. Valena explained how queer couples can intentionally foster “relationship security” so that their partnership acts as a safe harbor against a hostile world. She also advised that the true antidote to these punitive policies is visibility and telling our own stories. In particular, she said the queer community should use storytelling as a form of legal and cultural defense. Advice on Building a Secure Relationship Navigating a world with systemic biases can create a lot of external anxiety for LGBTQ+ couples. I asked Valena—based on her own journey as a queer woman, wife, and mother—what advice she had for queer people looking to build a deeply secure, resilient relationship. And how she keeps outside societal pressures from fracturing that bond. She gave a deeply personal and moving answer: “My advice for myself, and this has been really important to my relationship, is that these outside pressures can be real. They can become real stress in a relationship. ... Even if we’re not experiencing it directly, we’re absorbing it and we’re hearing things. “And that can manifest in pettiness with our partner. It’s so important for me and my partner to always come back to love, to know that at the base of our relationship, we are on the same team. We are on the same team against all of this." "So, we can we can have our fears and our frustrations—and take them out in ways that may not, you know, be be supportive of each other—but at the end of that argument, remember: We love each other. We are on the same team, and our love is so important to making it through all of this.” “I mean, really, like this is just a lesson from decades and from queer elders, right? That there’s going to be the stigma. There’s going to be the attacks. So it’s so crucial to remember that your relationship is rooted in love.” Kissing as a Strategy for Resistance! Finally, we left everyone with a strategy suggested by Valena that I cosign! “One of my favorite strategies of resistance is, if you’re at an event where there’s, for example, the lieutenant governor of Indiana, who is a huge homophobe: My wife and I will just start kissing, and I love it! “I’m in a parade and someone’s going by.? We make sure [we kiss'] because it’s legal. It’s love. It makes people feel awkward. It’s great!” Thanks to everyone who joined us live during this fascinating conversation that provided some essential information and guidance as we all continue to navigate our precarious and confusing times. And thanks to Valena Beety for spending time during the beginning of her busy fall semester teaching to spread the love! To celebrate our 2-year anniversary, we’re offering a special 20% discount to become an annual subscriber. That means you’ll pay $24 for the entire year! Get full access to The Queer Love Project at queerloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

  8. Aug 23

    “I wanted to put intimate partner violence and abuse front and center.”

    I had a great time getting to know Wyatt O’Brian Evans during our recent chat. Wyatt’s a radio host and a powerful voice in the LGBTQ+ community (you can check out his show on YouTube as well). He’s the author of the Nothing Can Tear Us Apart series, which explores the deep complexities of romance, resilience, and survival among same-gender-loving men of color. Since his brand-new erotic psychological thriller, Ruthless!, had just dropped, we were ready to dive into We talked about: * His main characters Wes (an African American media mogul) and ‘Tonio (Wes’ fiercely protective Puerto Rican soulmate) * Why he intentionally wrote a "slow burn" scenario to show them falling into love rather than just lust. * The reason he wanted them in a rock-solid, monogamous relationship * How E. Lynn Harris’ books in the ‘90s paved the way for Black same-gender-loving storylines (and how different it is now) * The self-care and healing that Wyatt does to handle his own trauma as a survivor and when he’s writing * How he approaches writing sex scenes, including a very steamy threesome in Ruthless! I was also curious about this sexy cover of the book that he’s shared… Wyatt made sure to mention how happy he was about the blurb he received from James Earl Hardy, author of the bestselling B-Boy Blues series: “Nothing Can Tear Us Apart: RUTHLESS! is one “ju-say”—aka juicy in Wyatt speak—spicy bowl of gumbo, seamlessly mixing melodrama, erotica, suspense, and thrills. Wyatt delivers the laughs, the emotional gut-punches, the sexual heat, and the make-you-do-a-double-take/jaw-on-the-floor moments. Literature that is LIT—that’s my kinda page turner!” What is intimate partner violence and abuse? I’m very curious about how, in queer relationships, there is often a false assumption that because partners share the same gender, the power dynamics are inherently equal. And I was curious how Wyatt’s book addresses that myth. That got us on to the topic of intimate partner violence and abuse (IPVA) within the LGBTQ+ community, a topic that Wyatt is well-versed on. In fact, you can read more about it on his Substack and website, and this is a good place to begin. As Wyatt stated: “Stigma is the driving force as to why IPVA incidences are so under-dramatically reported, particularly with us men. Because let's face it, no man wants it known that another man is whooping his ass. It's the whole self-esteem, the machismo, the masculinity—whatever you want to call it. Stigma is such a powerful thing.” Did you know that each year, between at least 100,000 lesbians and 500,000 gay/SGL men are battered, and about one in four LGBTQ+ relationships/ partnerships are abusive in some way? I’ll let you listen in to the rest of our lively conversation to learn more. And if you were curious, the erotica author that Wyatt mentioned loving is Zane (the pen name of Kristina Laferne Roberts). She became a dominant force in African American literature, and her immense popularity led her to partner with Simon & Schuster, turning her independent publishing venture, Strebor Books International, into a major corporate imprint. I did a little sleuthing, and her most notable novels include Addicted, The Sex Chronicles, Nervous and Afterburn. (There’s an ebook collection of several available here.) Thank you Clint Collide, Rande Iaboni, and many others for tuning into my live video with WYATT! Out Loud! To celebrate our 2-year anniversary, we’re offering a special 20% discount to become an annual subscriber. That means you’ll pay $24 for the entire year! The Queer Love Project is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to The Queer Love Project at queerloveproject.substack.com/subscribe

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