A client says "we love these." Then they ask for more images, for the same money, and call it a collaboration. This episode is about what that word is actually doing to you, why the moment feels impossible to say no to, and why the fix was never confidence. It was having the sentence ready before you needed it. In this episode Patrick breaks down the psychology behind scope creep and the "collaboration" ask, drawing on Dan Ariely's market norms vs. social norms, the classic foot-in-the-door effect, and a scene from The Negotiator that changed how he thinks about saying no. Along the way: four types of clients who are all testing the same thing without knowing it, why a rigid system is actually what makes generosity possible, and why bringing up your contract after the shoot has already happened means something already went wrong. The three lines to save These are built to do the same three things every time: validate the ask, protect the scope, offer a real next step. Swap in your own numbers and your own voice, the shape is what matters, not the exact wording. At the proposal, before anything's shot: "We'll lock down these five hero shots. If we spot extra opportunities on the day, I'm happy to grab them, we'll just treat those as separate add-ons so it doesn't mess with today's scope."On set, when the ask shows up live: "Love that shot idea. Let's finish our main list first so we hit our schedule, and then I'll pull together a quick add-on price for the extras before we wrap."After delivery, when the compliment arrives with a bigger ask behind it: "I'm so glad the set landed. If you want to expand delivery to twenty images, I can open up the rest of the gallery for an extra [your rate]."Is it a real collaboration? The three-part test Before you say yes to a trade instead of a fee, check for all three: Named upfront. Offered before the work happens, not as a consolation after the client can't hit their own number.Specific. Which posts, tagged how, to how many actual followers, not "some exposure."Reciprocal. Both sides chose it on purpose, not one side discovering it after delivery.If it shows up after the invoice as a replacement for the invoice, it's not a trade. It's the same ask wearing a nicer word. Referenced in this episode Dan Ariely, Predictably Irrational (market norms vs. social norms)Freedman & Fraser, 1966, the original foot-in-the-door compliance studyThe Negotiator (1998), starring Samuel L. Jackson and Kevin Spacey, "never say no to a hostage-taker" scene. Resources APA (Advertising Photographers of America) Find your local chapter at apanational.org The Book Lessons From a Terrible Photographer Support the Show terriblephotographer.com/support Stay Connected Subscribe to Pub Notes (the newsletter) The Terrible Creative on Instagram Patrick Fore on Instagram Email Me (Patrick Fore) Podcast written, produced, and hosted by Patrick Fore. Music licensed through Epidemic Sound and Blue Dot Sessions. Recorded from my garage in San Diego, California. -----------------------Office Hours with Patrick Stuck on your website, portfolio, pricing, marketing, or business strategy? Office Hours is a one-on-one, 60-ish minute conversation to help you work through whatever you’re trying to figure out. No agenda. No curriculum. No pitch. Just honest feedback, thoughtful questions, and a fresh perspective. $99Learn more or book your session: https://theterriblecreative.com/office-hours
