In this episode of the LandTrust Podcast, Nic sits down with Josh Kline, founder of Grover, the AI-powered travel assistant built specifically for RV owners, van lifers, and outdoor travelers, along with Zach Linder, CEO of Stellar, the AI team that helped engineer Grover’s rapid build. They discuss how RV owners struggle with overwhelming manuals, confusing hand-off days, hard-to-access rig knowledge, and the stress of planning off-grid routes. Josh explains how Grover uses AI, rig-specific data, and community travel knowledge to simplify everything from basic operation to finding safe, trusted places to stay, including LandTrust properties now integrated directly into Grover. Zach gives an inside look at how modern AI development lets teams go from idea to working product in weeks, and why the new era of AI feels nothing like the old “machine learning buzzword years.” Together they outline how Grover is combining rig documentation, off-grid capability, travel planning, weather data, air quality, map layers, and community validation to build the most complete RV travel assistant on the market. If you care about RV tech, AI travel planning, van life tools, or the future of outdoor innovation, this episode goes deep into the real problems, real solutions, and what’s coming next. 🔍 What You’ll Learn - Why RV manuals and hand-off days overwhelm new owners - How Grover uses AI to reduce support tickets and eliminate confusion - How rig-specific metadata helps determine off-grid power, heating, cooling & capability - Why RV travel planning requires more than Google Maps & campground apps - How people actually use their rigs (KOA vs. private land vs. dispersed camping) - How LandTrust properties integrate into Grover for off-grid, exclusive access - Why community travel knowledge builds safety, trust, and confidence - How Stellar built Grover’s AI engine, including multi-context integrations - How fast modern AI lets founders go from idea to working product 🔔 Subscribe for more stories from hunters & landowners 🌐 Book private-land hunts → https://landtrust.com #VanLife #RVLife #RVTravel #GroverAI #TravelTech #AITravel #AdventureVan #RVCamping #OffGridCamping #VanLifeCommunity #RVSafety #RVApps #RVTripPlanning #LandTrust #ExplorePrivateLand #PrivateLandAccess #LandTrustPodcast #RVTools #OutdoorInnovation #OutdoorTech #RecTech ⏱️ Chapters 0:00:00 - Introductions 0:01:37 - Josh Kline's Background: Career in go-to-market, early-stage startups, and the importance of sales vs. product-market fit. 0:02:26 - From Exits to Investing: Founding Ground Game Ventures and accidentally finding his way into the RV/Van Life space. 0:04:41 - Zach Linder's Background: From tech, data, and analytics to founding Stellar—a tech consultancy for implementing AI/ML solutions. 0:07:40 - What is Grover? How the AI-driven travel assistant solves rig support and complex travel planning for RV and Van Life owners. 0:11:39 - The Problem of Trust: Discussing the anxiety and information overload in off-grid travel and the value of trust and community (like Land Trust properties). 0:19:39 - The AI-First Advantage: How quickly Grover was built (weeks vs. years) using AI coding tools and a chat-based UI. 0:27:32 - The UX/UI Paradigm Shift: How generative AI is changing user experience from visual design to conversational chat streams. 0:35:59 - Revenue Capture After the Sale: Using the AI assistant to provide helpfulness and capture revenue from subsequent gear and trip-related purchases. 🔗 Follow & Learn More Grover Instagram: www.instagram.com/getgrover.ai Website: getgrover.ai/ Stellar LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/getstellar-ai Website: www.getstellar.ai LandTrust Instagram: www.instagram.com/landtrust_hunt Facebook: www.facebook.com/landtrusthunt LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/landtrustinc Website: landtrust.com
