The Problem of Money Podcast

Shabbar Kassam and Tim Malnick

Shabbar Kassam (Financial Advisor) and Tim Malnick (Organisational Psychologist) explore the complex relationship people have with money. They discuss the psychological aspects of money and how it can block personal growth, reflecting on their own journeys with money and the emotional constraints it can impose. Together, they aim to uncover deeper insights into everyday money conversations and the impact of unconscious biases on one's ability to live a life of freedom.

  1. Sep 9

    ِEp 61: He Remortgaged His House to Climb 14 Mountains

    Most of us are waiting to know where the money is coming from before we begin. Nims Purja remortgaged his house, went to climb the fourteen highest mountains on earth with no sponsors and no certainty, and the money only arrived once he had already started. Shabbar brings the recent death of a man he never met but had come to love, and the conversation turns quickly from mountains to money. Tim points out that long before the risk of the climb, there was a financial risk most of us would never take. From there they look at something harder: the judgments we make about people who follow their own path, and what those judgments protect us from seeing in ourselves. Along the way there is Jung on individuation, a mountaineer's words from 1924 about why we make money at all, and an honest look at courage, fear, and the comfort we mistake for a life. Key themes: Why not knowing where the money will come from stops almost all of us How the word responsible can quietly stand in for afraid What a child actually learns from a parent who never lives Why the people who provoke us are showing us something we want The difference between being sensible about money and hiding behind it Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

  2. Aug 26

    Ep 60: The MATTRESS I Found, Liked, But Couldn't BUY!

    It's been fifteen years and Shabbar's mattress needs replacing. He's found one he likes. Three evenings later he still hasn't bought it, and he's calling that being careful with money. It's reminiscent of the same tangle he got into over a hotel voucher last year. What looks like a small purchase opens onto something bigger: a budget he set himself and now can't break, a quiet feeling that sticking to it says something about the kind of person he is, and a pattern where chasing comfort produces the opposite. Tim then walks him through it without letting him off the hook. This is money psychology at the smallest possible scale, which turns out to be where the real patterns live.   In this conversation: Why a budget you invented yourself becomes impossible to break What it means when sticking to the number feels like part of who you are How chasing comfort with money often delivers the opposite Why saving thirty pounds is much more than just the thirty pounds Coming back to the same money pattern a year later, and why that isn't failure Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

  3. Aug 12

    Ep 59: Why You Stop Yourself from LIVING!

    The numbers work. You could afford to do the thing. And you still don't. Something keeps pulling you back to the safe version of your life, and it isn't the maths. In Part Two of their conversation on power, Shabbar and Tim bring it home to personal money decisions. They look at the story we absorbed about retirement, the identity we build around being good with money, and the quiet self policing that makes any change feel dangerous. Using Stephen Lukes' four forms of power, they work through real examples of people whose finances are fine but whose lives are on hold. It is a plain conversation about money psychology, financial anxiety, and what it actually costs to keep waiting. Key themes: Why having enough money does not switch off the fear of running out What happens to your sense of self when the identity you built around earning stops fitting The belief that living fully now is foolish, and where it came from Why the people around you set the limits on what you think is possible The discomfort of stepping out of line, and why it is not a sign you are doing it wrong Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

  4. Jul 29

    Ep 58: You're Not STUPID for QUESTIONING The Money Story

    You have probably had the thought but never said it out loud. Something about the way we all chase the number does not quite add up. Then you decide you must be the one who is missing something. In this conversation Shabbar and Tim look at why it feels so risky to say what you actually think about money, growth and the economy. They use the story of the emperor's new clothes and a real letter written to the Queen after the 2008 crash to show how easily we hand our power to people who are good with numbers, and how quickly we decide our own lived experience does not count. Tim then shares a four part framework on how power works, ending with the version most of us live inside, the one where nobody has to silence us because we do it to ourselves. This is a two part conversation about money psychology, shame and the slow work of getting your voice back. Key themes: Why questioning the growth story makes intelligent people feel stupid What happens when economics becomes maths and forgets psychology, philosophy and history Why we put people in suits on a pedestal but never the mechanic fixing our car The difference between not rocking the boat and not believing there is a boat How much energy goes into keeping yourself a compliant individual Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

  5. Jul 15

    Ep 57: I'm GOOD at Making Money, So Why Would I Ever STOP?

    Someone recently said to Shabbar: I'm good at growing businesses and making money. That's my gift. So why would I ever stop? He didn't have an answer. This episode is the answer he wishes he'd given. Shabbar and Tim take that real conversation and follow it somewhere bigger: the growth story we've all absorbed, where the salary, the pension and the business are always meant to get larger, and nobody ever asks when enough arrives. Tim brings a test that separates people who love their work from people trapped chasing a number, and a blunt observation from nature: nothing alive grows forever, and when something does, we call it a tumour. Along the way they cover Steven Bartlett, a client who left a corporate salary and finally felt rich, and why our money mindset quietly shapes everything from our pensions to the NHS. It ends with a simple exercise for spotting what you're really trying to maximise in your own life. Key themes: The question that stumps most successful people: why would I ever stop? How to tell whether you love your work or you're just good at it Why nothing in nature grows forever, and what that says about our money story She quit the salary, kept the purpose, and finally felt rich A 10% experiment: shifting attention from the numbers to the life Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

  6. Jun 17

    Ep 55: The Good Life is NOT Found in GDP Growth

    Most of us were never asked what we actually wanted from the economy. We were just handed a role: consume, earn more, and trust that growth will sort everything out. This episode is about what happens when you stop taking that on good faith. Shabbar and Tim continue their series on growth, asking what the economy is actually costing us, not just the planet but our sense of being alive. They look at why governments chase GDP the same way individuals chase a number, and what gets lost when growth becomes the only measure of success. Along the way, they surface an uncomfortable paradox: the savings meant to give us security are tied up in companies that need us to keep spending: Why governments chase a number rather than asking what people actually want. The pension paradox: how responsible saving quietly fuels the consumption machine. What corporations gain from you never feeling like you have enough. Why questioning economic growth can feel foolish, and why that feeling is worth examining. What it would mean to think of yourself as a citizen rather than a consumer. Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

  7. Jun 3

    Ep 54: I've Spent My CAREER Believing a Money Story I Now DOUBT!

    Most of us live inside a story about money and growth without ever questioning whether it is the RIGHT story. This episode is about what happens when someone who has spent their career inside that story starts to wonder if it is true. Shabbar shares what happened after reading two books, Mark Boyle's The Moneyless Man and Jason Hickel's Less is More: How Degrowth Will Save the World, that sent him down a rabbit hole he is still in. This conversation is the first in a short series, and it is deliberately exploratory. Shabbar is processing in real time what it means to build a career helping people grow their wealth inside a system he is starting to question. Tim brings context from years of thinking about environmental change and the psychology of how collective stories get made and maintained. Between them they explore why the mainstream economic narrative feels so hard to challenge, who benefits from keeping it unchallenged, and what it means that so many people privately sense something is wrong but say nothing. The thread that runs through everything is the one this podcast always comes back to: the difference between what the numbers promise and what a life actually needs: Why the story of endless growth feels unquestionable, even to people who can see it is not working. The professional and social cost of saying out loud that the system might be the problem. How our individual money fears and insecurities quietly shape the economic systems we all end up living inside. What the degrowth movement actually argues, and why it tends to get laughed off rather than engaged with. The question neither of them can fully answer yet: why haven't we arranged the way we live to work for everyone. Enjoyed this episode? We'd love to hear your thoughts, questions, or your own stories about money. Reach out and connect with us on LinkedIn: Shabbar: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/shabbarkassam Tim: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timmalnick Explore Tim's work and register for his upcoming workshop: https://timothymalnick.com/ Find out more about Shabbar's financial planning services: https://lumosfinancial.com/

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Shabbar Kassam (Financial Advisor) and Tim Malnick (Organisational Psychologist) explore the complex relationship people have with money. They discuss the psychological aspects of money and how it can block personal growth, reflecting on their own journeys with money and the emotional constraints it can impose. Together, they aim to uncover deeper insights into everyday money conversations and the impact of unconscious biases on one's ability to live a life of freedom.

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