What is Collective Healing?

The Pocket Project

What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast exploring how people around the world are finding new ways to heal the individual, inter-generational and collective trauma at the root of our global crises. Presented by the Pocket Project, the series features deeply personal conversations with practitioners who have trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing – giving listeners a direct experience of the transformational potential this work can unlock. Drawing on a wide diversity of voices from different countries, cultures and communities, the series aims to make the universal principles underlying collective healing practices newly accessible to all – and honor the many lineages and traditions informing today's cutting-edge practices. In an age of overwhelming complexity and news overload, it's easy to forget that we're not meant to carry the weight of the world alone. What Is Collective Healing? is your weekly reminder that not only are we wired to grieve, celebrate and heal together – we're discovering new ways to transmute polarization, trauma and despair into the seeds of a more flourishing future. These conversations show us how. To learn more about how the Pocket Project is creating a culture of trauma-informed care, please visit www.pocketproject.org to join our global events, services and courses.

  1. 1d ago

    Self-Regulation is the Key: Hard-won Wisdom from a Pioneer of Collective Trauma Integration, with Markus Hirzig

    Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.  Therapist and teacher Markus Hirzig has pursued a central question throughout his decades-long career: Why, despite our enormous human potential, do we so often get caught in patterns that limit us and drain our energy — and how can we break these cycles? Having started out as a physiotherapist and osteopath, Markus began looking for answers in the body by deeply exploring patterns of movement and tension. Then, after meeting Thomas Hübl, co-founder of the Pocket Project, more than 20 years ago, Markus went on to play a pivotal role in helping to pioneer collective trauma integration practices in Germany.  Markus has since worked to bring principles of collective healing to a global audience via his own in-person and online training and by co-leading a team of assistants supporting Thomas' two-year Timeless Wisdom Training and other offerings. In this episode, Markus reflects on the journey since his early days of working with groups in Germany with Thomas, when collective energies linked to the Second World War, the Holocaust and the East-West divide began to surface in striking ways. Markus explains how he learned the crucial importance of supporting participants in collective healing processes to gradually learn to regulate their nervous systems — a practice he also shares in his free Open Trainings. Markus sees this self-regulation capacity as essential to creating the kind of stable ground from which deeper exploration, integration and change become possible. Themes Markus and Matthew explore include:  Early days of learning to work with collective trauma  Collective trauma patterns as "bubbles" in the wider field Role of self-regulation in collective healing work Origins of collaboration with Thomas Hübl Working with Germany's undigested past Surfacing ancestral war-time memories  Germany's reckoning with the Second World War and the Holocaust Creating spaces to host the emergence of new possibilities Using intention to address specific fields of collective trauma Building collective healing architecture on a global scale Role of outside perspectives in national collective trauma work  This powerful episode offers a chance to hear directly from one of the luminaries in this field about how collective trauma integration work has evolved over the years, the wisdom accrued along the way — and where the global healing movement might go next.  Further Resources:   Markus Hirzig's Open Trainings  Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training). Pocket Project About Markus Hirzig: Markus began his journey into healing in the 1970s and 80s, becoming a physiotherapist and later an osteopath. For decades, he worked in private practice while also teaching classes. Starting from a deeply body-oriented perspective, Maruks trained his perception of movement and patterns within the physical body. Along the way, he also discovered a connection to what we might call "subtle energetic perception" — or a deeper field of information behind the physical. This opened up questions that have shaped Markus' work ever since: Why do we have so much potential, and yet so often find ourselves caught in patterns that limit us and drain our energy? How can we break these cycles? And how much of what we experience as individuals is connected to our families, our ancestry and the collective? These questions led Markus into decades of exploring individual, family, ancestral and collective patterns and trauma. Over time, Markus came to understand self-regulation as an essential foundation for this work: the capacity to recognise when we are triggered, stay present with what arises, and distinguish between our own experience and what may be connected to larger family, systemic or collective fields. Again and again, returning to regulation creates the ground from which deeper exploration, integration and change become possible. Today, Markus works as a therapist and teacher, both in person and online. Markus regularly offers free online Open Trainings where people can experience this work firsthand.

    Self-Regulation is the Key: Hard-won Wisdom from a Pioneer of Collective Trauma Integration, with Markus Hirzig

  2. Aug 11

    Meeting the "Shadow Trauma" of Transgression: The Healthy Way to Approach Your Past, with Thomas Hübl

    Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. When we embark on a healing path, there will inevitably come a point when we meet parts of ourselves that we'd previously managed to deny or avoid. At the personal level, this can look like reflecting on things we said or did in the past that we now regret, or gaining a new perspective on habitual patterns of relating that we've started to outgrow.  As we widen the scope of our integration work, we may meet transgressions committed by our ancestors, or discover how legacies of perpetration carried out at the collective level — from war crimes and genocide to racial oppression and gender-based violence — live on in our own system, shaping our perceptions of ourselves and each other in limiting ways.  In this episode, Thomas Hübl shares core mystical principles for working with the "shadow trauma" of perpetration at the individual, inter-generational and collective scales, and why he sees this work as so essential at this time.  A key dimension of his approach relates to the spiritual principle of grace. When people suffer trauma as a result of experiencing transgressions committed by others, the flow of grace is much more readily available to support the healing process, Thomas says. But when we commit acts of perpetration — whether as individuals or collectives —then access to grace can be drastically curtailed. The parts of our nervous system that might allow us to feel what we have done to the other are shut down. It thus takes a special effort on behalf of the perpetrator to overcome the unconscious impulse to turn away from past transgressions committed and instead look clearly at what happened. That act of turning-towards the ethical violations can allow grace once again to flow.  "On the transgressor side, we have to be awake enough to say, 'I want to look at this,'" Thomas says. "And that motivation comes out of a growing sense of love and compassion and responsibility that wants to restore the ethical confusion. Then it reactivates grace, and then support comes." Other key takeaways from this episode include:  Thomas' concept of 'Divine Law' and its relationship to internal alignment and right action How the healing process might bring us into contact with pain we had previously numbed and why that's a sign of progress The importance of healing communities in meeting transgression Finding a healthy relationship to our ancestral lineage The connection between our integrated trauma and global events How healing perpetration trauma restores Divine Law and opens up new pathways for ethical action Why peace is not the absence of conflict — but arises from cultivating our capacity to stay in relation when we disagree This lively and accessible dialogue offers core insights into some of the most challenging aspects of individual and collective healing work and the mystical principles that can orient us even in the face of life's darkest shadows. This conversation was first published on Thomas' Point of Relation podcast.  For an introductory dialogue between Thomas and Matthew on healing and awakening, please click here to access last week's episode of What Is Collective Healing? Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training). Further Resources:   Point of Relation podcast (with Thomas Hübl) Thomas Hübl Thomas Hübl on Instagram Pocket Project About Thomas Hübl: Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. His new book, co-authored with Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is called Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral and Collective Trauma. Thomas is also the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    Meeting the "Shadow Trauma" of Transgression: The Healthy Way to Approach Your Past, with Thomas Hübl

  3. Aug 4

    The Path Is Created as We Walk: How to Let Yourself Be Authored by Life, with Thomas Hübl

    Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. Healing from trauma — whether inflicted in our lifetime, passed down by our ancestors, or present in the collective — is an inevitably uncomfortable, messy and ambiguous process, which may never feel entirely resolved or complete. Many contemplative practices, by contrast, hold out the promise of a sudden awakening experience that reveal our sense of a separate self to be an illusion, and thus cut through our mind-created suffering like a sword.   In this episode, teacher and facilitator Thomas Hübl, a co-founder of the Pocket Project, explores this apparent contradiction by demonstrating how the paths of healing and awakening are properly seen as aspects of the same revelatory process.  "This is one mountain," Thomas says. "Deep spiritual traditions usually have different practice areas, 'departments' if you will. But they are all working together as one consciousness stream." Thomas goes on to develop an integrated vision of how trauma healing,  spiritual awakening, ethical conduct, and participation in supportive communities form four mutually reinforcing pillars to support us to embody more "light" and share our gifts more fully. As we practice this approach, we realise that we are not following some preformed trail that's waiting there for us to find it — but that our path is being created as we walk.  "What does it mean to be authored by life — not by the horizontal expectations of other people — but by the real stream of life?," Thomas asks. "What's really coming out of me that's unique in my expression, and how can we support that?" Thomas emphasises that this commitment to self-realisation is an essential contribution to growing our collective capacity to tap into the inspiration and innovation we need to tackle today's interlocking crises.  "I believe we are living in a time of collective awakening — this is the moment.  So [we] need more embodied light so that we can really ground a new state of consciousness as humanity. And that is also going to be the answer to some of the pressing issues that we see in the world." As Thomas acknowledges, in darker phases of life, we can sometimes feel cut off from the light – but we can still sense the echo of something higher.  "Even if it's an echo, we feel that there is something bigger than our suffering. It's very important not to forget that even if it feels stuck or hard or challenging right now,  there's something deeper also that is always — even if it's in the background — present." This visionary dialogue penetrates to the heart of some of the most profound and mysterious concepts at the heart of collective healing practices in an exceptionally lively and accessible way.  This warm-hearted conversation will also nourish anyone who feels ready to let go of struggle, embody more of their essence, and let life's infinite intelligence be your guide. This conversation was first published on Thomas' Point of Relation podcast.  Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training). Further Resources:   Point of Relation podcast (with Thomas Hübl) Thomas Hübl Thomas Hübl on Instagram Pocket Project About Thomas Hübl: Thomas Hübl, PhD, is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator who works within the complexity of systems and cultural change, integrating the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since the early 2000s, he has led large-scale events and courses on the healing of collective trauma. His new book, co-authored with Richard C. Schwartz, PhD, is called Releasing Our Burdens: A Guide to Healing Individual, Ancestral and Collective Trauma. Thomas is also the author of Attuned: Practicing Interdependence to Heal Our Trauma—and Our World and Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural Wounds. He has served as an advisor and guest faculty for universities and organizations, as a coach for CEOs and organizational leaders, and is currently a visiting scholar at the Wyss Institute at Harvard University.

    The Path Is Created as We Walk: How to Let Yourself Be Authored by Life, with Thomas Hübl

  4. Jul 28

    Two States, One Homeland: Keeping the Flame of Political Imagination Alive in Israel-Palestine, with May Pundak

    May Pundak is the Israeli co-executive director of A Land for All, a joint Palestinian-Israeli movement working towards a political framework in which two democratic, sovereign states exist within a shared homeland, rooted in equality, freedom, and dignity.  In a dialogue first broadcast as part of the Pocket Project's World Women Summit: Women Rising for Peace in March, May speaks about her commitment to keeping "that spark of constructive, practical hope" alive despite the devastating escalation in violence since the October 7, 2023 attacks on Israel. In September last year, a U.N. commission of inquiry concluded that the Israeli state had committed genocide in Gaza in response. Israel's government rejected the findings. "We have to keep that flame of political imagination of an alternative so that people, when they are confronted by this conflict, their immediate response won't be, 'oh, it's impossible', but rather 'you know what? I've actually heard of a really interesting new idea,'" May tells host Kosha Joubert. By envisioning a form of confederation, with gradual steps towards freedom of movement and residence for all Israelis and Palestinians, A Land for All's 'two states, one homeland' model aims to offer national self-determination without domination, shared governance without erasing identity, and security without subjugation. "Maybe the most hopeful thing that I can share is that we're a movement that is growing, that is since October 7th, we've been growing," May says. This moving dialogue shows how Israelis and Palestinians are coming together in the most challenging of circumstances to build a shared vision for peace, and powerfully articulates the importance of love and belonging as the foundations for all peace-building work.  Further Resources: A Land for All Support the Pocket Project's Work in the Middle East: Jewish Trauma Relief Project Spaces of Belonging: Resilience and Community for Palestinians (Fundraiser) Palestine Trauma Relief Project Catch Up on the Podcast Episodes Mentioned: Bonus Poem Episode, with Carolina Herbert Building Circles of Resilience in Ukraine, with Daria Yemets  About May Pundak: May Pundak is a mother, daughter and granddaughter, a partner, feminist lawyer and activist and co-director of A Land for All. In her previous role, she worked at the New Israel Fund in the United States. May assisted in establishing a legal team to support political struggles in East Jerusalem and co-founded an educational dialogue group program. May is a graduate of the Mandel School of Educational Leadership and a graduate of Harvard University's Leadership, Community Organizing and Activism course. She holds a teaching certificate in civics and a bachelor's and master's degree in law in the field of public and international law, with an emphasis on human rights, including Transitional Justice studies, from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem. A Land for All is a joint Israeli-Palestinian political initiative rooted in the lived reality of this land. It was founded by people who know the conflict not from headlines but from daily life. Together, we have dared to imagine a different future and have crafted a shared political vision grounded in dignity, equality, and belonging for both peoples. We are a generative source of ideas and expertise for policymakers and peacebuilders seeking to advance a two-state solution that is not only equitable in theory but workable in practice - for both peoples. Our model rejects zero-sum thinking on complex issues like Jerusalem, settlements, and refugees, and instead promotes creative and fair solutions. Since 2012, we have brought together activists, academics, diplomats, and thought leaders around a simple and powerful truth: this land is home to two peoples. Any lasting resolution must affirm the equal right of both nations to self-determination - while honoring their unique identities, histories, and needs. Our lives are already inextricably intertwined, not only emotionally and historically, but in the most basic, everyday ways: through shared aquifers, electricity grids, labor markets, and security realities. A shared peaceful future requires a political framework that reflects our interdependence, alongside our separate needs. Without it, we remain trapped in the cycles of fear, violence, and loss.   The brutal attack on Israel on October 7th and the unprecedented and unrelenting violence that has followed in the Gaza Strip and West Bank have laid bare the urgent need for a just and lasting resolution to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Decades of occupation, escalating violence, and the erosion of democratic space have brought us to a critical turning point, revealing the patent failure of efforts to "manage" the conflict. In response, the international community has renewed its support for the two-state solution. Yet the assumptions underpinning the Oslo Accords - rigid geographical separation and indifference towards deeply held historical and identity ties - have proven unworkable. The time has come for a two-state solution that can actually work--one that guarantees self-determination for both peoples while embracing our interdependence and common attachment to the land. A Land for All: Two States, One Homeland - was founded by Israelis and Palestinians as a joint movement with a vision both simple and transformative. We envision two democratic, sovereign states - Israel and Palestine - linked together in a confederation with gradual steps toward freedom of movement and residence for all Israelis and Palestinians across our shared homeland. Our model offers national self-determination without domination, shared governance without erasing identity, and security without subjugation.

    Two States, One Homeland: Keeping the Flame of Political Imagination Alive in Israel-Palestine, with May Pundak

  5. Jul 21

    Bonus Poetry Episode, with Carolina Herbert

    Poem written and performed by Carolina Herbert. Used with her permission. Introduced by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.  In this special episode, we bring you a poem by Carolina Herbert, a PhD Arts Psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, and expressive arts practitioner. Entitled 'Between Inheritance and Hiraeth,' the work explores ancestral work, collective memory and forgiveness. The poem grew out of Carolina's experience in Being White British: Colonised and Colonisers, one of more than 40 Integration Labs the Pocket Project is hosting this year to address different aspects of collective and intergenerational trauma around the world.  Carolina writes: "What the Lab created was a quality of collective presence and witnessing that I have rarely encountered, and it became the conditions in which something that had been forming for a long time could finally find its shape. "The deeper roots of the poem go back several years. I have been on a long exploration of ancestral work, collective memory and forgiveness, asking what it means to truly reckon with what we have inherited, both the wounding and the wisdom, and what responsibility we carry to those who came before and those who will come after. "This inquiry took a very specific form through Sori, a travelling podcast I created exploring apology and forgiveness in communities and cultures around the world through creative arts, therapy, music and songwriting. We have recorded 14 episodes across several countries, holding conversations about what forgiveness means across different cultural and ancestral traditions.  "When I returned to the UK after twenty years of living and working in Cambodia, I found it deeply confronting, the sense of collective sleeping around the level of harm that colonisation has caused and continues to cause around the world. Coming home, in that sense, was not a homecoming but an awakening to something I had perhaps been circling for years without being able to name it so directly. The Lab has helped me begin to focus and explore my own deeper response to this, to find a form for what I was carrying, and for that I am profoundly grateful. "The Lab gave me the opportunity to consolidate and channel all of this into this poem. I arrived with all that accumulated inquiry sitting in me somewhere, and the quality of witnessing in the group gave it permission to emerge in this form." We hope this episode will mark the first in a series featuring creative work emerging from the Pocket Project Integration Labs.  We welcome any Lab participant who would like to submit poems or other forms of creative expression for consideration to contact Matthew here. Further Resources: Carolina Herbert  Blue Pearl Institute  Carolina on LinkedIn Carolina on Facebook Carolina on Instagram Pocket Project Integration Labs 2026 Contact Matthew About Carolina Herbert: Dr Carolina Herbert is a PhD Arts Psychotherapist, clinical supervisor, educator, consultant, celebrant and expressive arts practitioner with over 25 years of international experience in trauma-informed practice, humanitarian mental health and psychosocial support, and leadership development. Her work has taken her across South East Asia, the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Latin America and Central Asia, accompanying individuals, communities and organisations through some of the most demanding circumstances human beings face. At the heart of her practice is a deep trust in the creative and imaginal capacities that human beings carry, the capacity to make meaning from suffering, to find form for what has no words, and to discover in the arts a pathway back to what matters most. This trust has shaped everything: her clinical work, her training programmes, her organisational consultancy, her songwriting and her writing. She is the founder of Blue Pearl Institute for Expressive Arts: Therapy and Leadership, based in Gower, Wales, the UK's first nature-inspired expressive arts therapy and leadership institute, and a member of the International Network of Expressive Arts Institutes. Blue Pearl delivers practitioner training, accredited CPD and nature-based wellbeing programmes across Wales, Cambodia and online, with an international faculty of teachers. Carolina is also a Global Social Witnessing facilitator and the founder of the Sori Project, an inquiry into apology, forgiveness and collective repair across cultures. Her poem on ancestry arises from this territory: an invitation to attend to what we carry across generations, and to ask what it means to respond. She is based on the shores of Gower, Wales.

    Bonus Poetry Episode, with Carolina Herbert

  6. Jul 14

    Rebirthing the Wise Warrior: Burnout as a Portal to Collective Liberation, with Dr Rola Hallam

    Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard.  How can the apparently catastrophic collapse of the person we thought we were clear the path for who we are meant to become? What might change when we dwell less on what we're doing to serve others, and focus more on the quality of consciousness from which our action arises? Dr Rola Hallam is an award-winning humanitarian recognised for her extraordinary role in building hospitals and bringing medical aid to Syria during a decade of mass killings of civilians unleashed by the country's now-toppled dictatorship. In this episode, Dr Rola speaks about the transformation she experienced after trauma and exhaustion she accumulated via her humanitarian work led to a 'dark night of the soul' that radically changed her understanding of herself and her service in the world.  "I was desperately trying to pull us forward and into a better future because the present seemed so unbearable. And I think that crash that I had was really this almighty sort of cataclysmic rupture that in some ways forced me to sit in the cracks," Dr Rola says.  "The pain, the grief, the rage, the powerlessness — everything that I had suppressed in all those years, I had to feel them, I had to learn to be with them, I had to integrate them and transmute them so that I could also reconnect to more of that unconditional love, more to joy, more to beauty, more to my right responsibility." Called to the role of doctor from childhood, Dr Rola also felt a strong sense of warriorship from a young age — a combination of archetypal energies that would propel her later relief work in her Syrian homeland, where women and children bore the brunt of the former regime's atrocities. Dr Rola's burnout experience helped her to unravel how some of her own early traumas had shaped her path as a "wounded healer". But it also reflected her experience as a "wounded visionary" — struggling with the pain of the mismatch between the world she could imagine and present reality. With the support of her Sufi practice, various trauma modalities, and psychedelic-assisted therapies, Dr Rola began to harvest the gold hidden in her dark night experience and now offers programmes to support people to build resilience and navigate the collapse-rebirth cycle.  These include her new nine-month journey called Wise Warriors. "I would say that is the home of this transformation from clever to wise so that we can all become this healing impulse, this healing presence…for collective liberation, for collective awakening," Dr Rola says. This dialogue provides a vivid illustration of the power of grace to transform our most vulnerable moments into portals for growth and awakening. It also reminds us of our innate capacity to tap into a living stream of inspiration to meet personal and global challenges.  "It's so easy to look at the scale of everything and feel too small and too insignificant," Dr Rola says. "But I hope that if nothing else, our conversation today is a reminder of not just our responsibility, but of the agency, of the potency in each one of us to really be a positive contribution. And that is all that is asked of us."  Further Resources: Dr Rola Hallam (website) Wise Warriors  The Resilient Leadership Workshop  Saving Syria's Children (BBC Documentary) Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training starting in July).  About Rola Hallam: ​Dr Rola Hallam is an award-winning Syrian-British doctor, humanitarian, trauma-informed coach, speaker and spiritual teacher whose work sits at the meeting place of healing, leadership and sacred service. As founder of CanDo, Rola helped build seven hospitals in Syria and supported care for more than four million people in conflict-affected communities. She has witnessed the devastating impact of war, burnout, moral injury and trauma, not only in the world's hardest places, but also in the bodies and hearts of those who serve. Honoured as the first Syrian TED Fellow, Rola has spoken on global stages alongside presidents, celebrities, grassroots activists and changemakers. Her talks have been viewed more than 11 million times, inspiring people around the world to reimagine what healing, leadership and social change can look like. After her own experience of burnout and PTSD, Rola's work evolved beyond emergency medicine and humanitarian action into a deeper exploration of nervous system repair, embodied resilience and spiritual transformation. Today, she guides sensitive leaders, healers, frontline workers and changemakers to move from survival, self-abandonment and depletion into wholeness, truth and sacred responsibility. Her approach brings together Western medicine, trauma healing, somatic work, Sufi wisdom, embodied resilience and expanded states of consciousness. At the heart of her work is a simple but radical invitation: that our presence is medicine, and that when we heal what lives within us, our service becomes less about sacrifice and more about devotion, aliveness and right relationship with the world.

    Rebirthing the Wise Warrior: Burnout as a Portal to Collective Liberation, with Dr Rola Hallam

  7. Jul 7

    Leading in Chaos: Transforming our Lives Into 'Instruments of Repair', with Amy Elizabeth Fox

    Hosted by Kosha Joubert. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. How can we meet this time of polarisation, breakdown and chaos by turning our lives into 'instruments of repair'? How can we undertake the work of healing and reconciliation needed to restore relations between genders? Amy Elizabeth Fox is the co-founder and Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm, and longtime collaborator with the Pocket Project and its co-founder Thomas Hübl. In this episode, Amy and Kosha build on insights from Leading in Chaos, Amy's new book co-authored with Nicholas Janni, to explore how to develop the inner ground that supports us to align with a sense of larger unfolding in this era of fluidity and change. "We know that the operating system we've relied on in a command-and-control predictable world will not be sufficient to grapple with these times of uncertainty and churn," Amy says. "So we're going to have to build inside organizations what I've been calling nests, which are small groups, and the purpose of these nests is not functional or technical: It is just emotional support and care." As leaders increasingly recognise the need to embrace more feminine principles to support their staff and navigate growing complexity, Amy provides a compellingly clear vision of how we can each integrate both our trauma healing work and a sense of devotion to something greater than ourselves to reveal the unique contribution that is ours to make.  "I think there's a natural impulse of the heart at this time to be of service and to be part of the reparative web, that is arising naturally in this time of great violence and cruelty and degradation of life in many ways," Amy says. "So the inner work is in part attuning to and defining and engaging with what your contribution is meant to be." In the light of last week's Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing Call "From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere: Tending to Fractured Gender Relations," Kosha and Amy also dive deeply into the question of how men, women and people of all genders can undertake the work of reconciliation and repair. Amy emphasises both the importance of women continuing to support one another in healing from trauma and for men to come together to undertake the process of "unnumbing" from patriarchal conditioning. These complementary processes can, Amy says, form "the precursor for real co-creation and reinvention of how we relate to each other."  Infused with Amy's gift for illuminating core principles of healing and awakening with clarity, beauty and precision, this episode will nourish anyone seeking to lead with an open heart in this time of great peril and promise.  Further Resources: Leading in Chaos: A Clarion Call to a New Future From Two Pioneers in Leadership Development and Transformational Change (Book) Leading in Chaos (a series of seven online sessions with Amy Elizabeth Fox and Nicholas Janni, running from September to December 2026). Mobius Executive Leadership Amy Elizabeth Fox (website) Related Pocket Project Programmes: Resilience Programme, Phase II (A standalone facilitation training starting in July).  About Amy Elizabeth Fox: Since 2005 Amy Elizabeth Fox has served as one of the founders and Chief Executive Officer of Mobius Executive Leadership, a global transformational leadership firm. For the last twenty years she has served as a leadership and culture change advisor to eminent professional services firms and Fortune 500 companies and facilitated immersive executive development programs for senior leaders. ​ ​In 2026 she co-authored a book with Nicholas Janni entitled Leading in Chaos to help executives navigate the unique challenges of leading through increased complexity and adaptive demand.​ ​Mobius offers top team intervention, business mediation, executive coaching and personal mastery programs all aimed at unlocking potential and building deeper trust, intimacy and connection within a company's top tier. Mobius also sponsors a professional development arm for maturing transformational practitioners called the Next Practice Institute and has an e-learning arm entitled Mobius Touch.​ ​Since 2013 Mobius has had the privilege of partnering with the premier leadership advisory firm, Egon Zehnder, together offering sessions for leaders from around the world. Amy serves as the lead faculty for the quarterly Discovery program offered jointly to N-1 leaders. Further she has guided programs for long standing clients in tandem to overseeing the evolution and expansion of Mobius.​ ​Amy is considered an expert in healing individual, family and collective trauma and has been a pioneer in introducing trauma-informed development and psycho-spiritual principles into leadership programs. ​ ​In addition to her work with Mobius, Amy is a senior student of mystical teacher Thomas Hübl, serving as part of his online faculty team and as lead faculty for his two-year Timeless Wisdom Training. Together Amy and Thomas are guiding a first of its kind year-long certification in Trauma Informed Consulting and Coaching. ​ ​Before starting Mobius Amy worked as a trainer for Vantage Partners, as a senior executive in Wellspace, and as the Director of Public Affairs for the Cathedral of St John the Divine where she supported Paul Gorman, Carl Sagan and Vice President Gore in a decade long effort to engage the American faith communities in responding to climate change and environmental degradation.​ ​Amy has a Masters in Counseling from Lesley College and a BA in Psychology from Wesleyan University.​

    Leading in Chaos: Transforming our Lives Into 'Instruments of Repair', with Amy Elizabeth Fox

  8. Jun 30

    A Global Social Witnessing Invitation: From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere – Tending to Fractured Gender Relations

    Register for the July 1 Global Social Witnessing Event  Hosted by Matthew Green. Produced by J'aime Rothbard. We are living in a time when a new upsurge in systemic oppression, silencing and violence toward the feminine has become impossible to ignore. The Epstein Files, the activities of misogynistic influencers featured in the 'Inside the Manosphere' documentary, and a CNN investigation into the 'Motherless' online platform where men shared pornographic videos of their sedated partners and wives, have opened new windows into the extent and depth of gender-based perpetration, complicity and wounding alive in today's world. A lack of justice and accountability have compounded the harms. In this episode, co-host Matthew Green joins J'aime Rothbard, the producer of What is Collective Healing? to discuss the upcoming Pocket Project Global Social Witnessing call on July 1 at 8:00 PM Central Europe time (7:00 PM UK, 2:00 PM Eastern) dedicated to creating a space to digest the revelations in the Epstein Files and related material.  J'aime and Matthew discuss how Global Social Witnessing serves as a participatory, embodied practice that can start to build the kind of ground that could ultimately support restoration and repair. In that sense, the free call on July 1 is an opportunity to participate directly in collective healing and experience what becomes possible when we tend to our collective wounds in community.  Further Resources: Register for the Global Social Witnessing call: From the Epstein Files to Inside the Manosphere – Tending to Fractured Gender Relations More on Global Social Witnessing in Episodes One (Manda Johnson) and Episode Fourteen (Bayo Akomolafe)  Calling Men Into Presence: Masculinity Beyond Separation and Struggle, with Kevin Young Opening the Heart of Humanity by Healing the Gender Wound, with Cynthia Brix and Will Keepin Kosha Joubert on Global Social Witnessing as a Portal to Collective Healing   The Resonant Man   About Matthew Green   Matthew Green is a journalist and facilitator working to show how an understanding of collective trauma can help solve the climate crisis. As global investigations editor at the non-profit DeSmog, he leads coverage of the global climate crisis, energy politics and global struggles for environmental justice. He is a co-host of the What Is Collective Healing? Podcast at the Pocket Project and co-founder of the Resonant Man international men's initiative.

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What is Collective Healing? is a weekly podcast exploring how people around the world are finding new ways to heal the individual, inter-generational and collective trauma at the root of our global crises. Presented by the Pocket Project, the series features deeply personal conversations with practitioners who have trained under Thomas Hübl and other pioneers of collective healing – giving listeners a direct experience of the transformational potential this work can unlock. Drawing on a wide diversity of voices from different countries, cultures and communities, the series aims to make the universal principles underlying collective healing practices newly accessible to all – and honor the many lineages and traditions informing today's cutting-edge practices. In an age of overwhelming complexity and news overload, it's easy to forget that we're not meant to carry the weight of the world alone. What Is Collective Healing? is your weekly reminder that not only are we wired to grieve, celebrate and heal together – we're discovering new ways to transmute polarization, trauma and despair into the seeds of a more flourishing future. These conversations show us how. To learn more about how the Pocket Project is creating a culture of trauma-informed care, please visit www.pocketproject.org to join our global events, services and courses.

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