The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson

MinistryForward Media Group

The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is where real conversations meet real ministry. We tackle the hard questions facing today’s Black Church—from leadership and discipleship to cultural shifts and spiritual relevance. Hosted by Rev. Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr., this channel is a space for pastors, ministry leaders, and believers who are ready to reflect, wrestle, and reimagine what church can look like in today’s world.New episodes drop every other Wednesday with honest insights, thoughtful dialogue, and wisdom from decades of ministry. Powered by: MinistryForward Media Group

  1. DEC 10

    Ep 16 – Season 1 Rewind: What This Season Taught Us About Ministry

    A season’s worth of hard-won wisdom deserves more than a closing credits moment, so we pressed pause and gathered the conversations that shaped us most. This Season One Rewind revisits the clips you returned to, shared, and carried into your ministry contexts—moments about letting go with grace, the realities of clergy life, the tension between cultural relevance and church identity, the courage to answer a call before you feel ready, and the weight of prophetic preaching when support is scarce. This episode is part reflection, part field guide, and focused on what strengthens real churches and real leaders. We revisit Bishop Walter S. Thomas Sr., who reminds us that loving the church more than the position is the foundation of healthy transition. We pair that with Rev. Dr. DeForest “Buster” Soaries’s challenge to rethink pastoral finance, honor bi-vocational realities, and provide dignified support for the shepherds who serve our congregations. Rev. Dr. Alyn E. Waller reframes gospel music as an on-ramp to discipleship rather than a substitute for Sunday formation, pushing us to imagine evangelism for a generation drawn by sound but searching for substance. With Rev. Dr. Danielle L. Brown, we sit in the tension of calling before readiness, naming the quiet scripts that have funneled women into support roles—and celebrating the growing, Spirit-led movement of women stepping confidently into senior leadership. Rev. Dr. Kevin R. Johnson brings us into the loneliness and necessity of prophetic conviction, reminding us that standing alone often precedes standing together. Threaded through it all is Bishop Keith W. Reed’s charge to “gather wheat from every field, and make your own bread”—a reminder to learn widely without losing yourself, lead boldly without imitation, and let the voices that shaped you strengthen your own. We close with gratitude for every guest who shared their journey and every listener who watched, commented, prayed, and carried these conversations beyond the studio. A Season One digital E-Book is on the way—gathering themes like leadership pressure, legacy and succession, calling, originality, worship and culture, and prophetic responsibility into a resource for pastors and leaders everywhere. Season Two begins January 8 with new voices and the same commitment to clarity, courage, and ministry that matters. Share this rewind with someone who needs it, subscribe, and help us continue the conversa Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    38 min
  2. NOV 26

    Ep 15 - Why Advent Still Matters in a Culture That Forgot God

    In this solo episode, Dr. Mapson guides us into one of the most overlooked yet essential seasons in the life of the church — the season of Advent. While our culture rushes toward Christmas with shopping, noise, and trillion-dollar spending, Advent quietly calls us to memory, reflection, and the Incarnation itself. Drawing from Scripture, church history, and decades of preaching, Dr. Mapson explores why Advent matters and why the church must reclaim it. He walks through the biblical rhythms, theological depth, and spiritual discipline that make this season more than a countdown to December twenty-five. From Jewish feast days and collective memory, to secularism and commercialism, to genealogies, angels, tensions in the birth narratives, and preaching possibilities across the Gospels — this episode offers a rich journey through the texts and symbols we often know too well and rarely examine afresh. Dr. Mapson unpacks:  • Why Advent reveals God’s activity throughout the year  • How the Gospel offers an alternative to cultural Christmas  • The Incarnation as the center of Christian faith  • Preaching values in Matthew and Luke’s birth narratives  • The symbolism of genealogies, dreams, angels, shepherds, and wise men  • Biblical tensions resolved only by divine intervention  • The role of Advent preaching series in shaping congregational life  • Old Testament connections, carols, and songs of the season  • What happens after the angels leave — and how believers respond This episode invites the church to slow down, look again, and rediscover the gift God gives in this season — a gift that changes how we live, serve, and enter a new year. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    1h 2m
  3. Ep 14 – Rebuilding the Church: A Father and Son Rewrite the Rules of Ministry

    NOV 12

    Ep 14 – Rebuilding the Church: A Father and Son Rewrite the Rules of Ministry

    In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. and his son, Jesse Mapson III, share a rare and revealing father-and-son dialogue about faith, innovation, and legacy. Together they trace how a historic Black Baptist church learned to evolve—adding drums, livestreams, and online giving—without losing its sacred soul. Jesse—known professionally as J. Melodic, an award-winning music producer whose work has been featured by Apple, Disney, the NBA, NFL, and more—brings his world of music, media, and creative strategy into the conversation, reflecting on how those experiences reshaped his view of ministry. From his start as a seven-year-old church drummer to creative director and CEO of MinistryForward Media Group, he shares how excellence, storytelling, and sound can all serve as modern evangelism. Meanwhile, Dr. Mapson offers the pastoral and theological lens behind the journey, revealing what it takes to guide a congregation through change without compromising conviction. What began as cautious experimentation became a blueprint for digital discipleship and intergenerational partnership. This conversation explores: How openness to change preserves the church’s soul rather than dilutes itTurning media and design into tools of ministry and missionWhy inclusion, belonging, and excellence can coexist in worshipLessons for young leaders seeking genuine influence, not just visibilityBuilding systems that meet today’s needs—from follow-up to food securityFor pastors, PKs, and ministry teams learning to bridge reverence with reinvention, this dialogue offers both wisdom and warmth—a living example of what it means to rebuild the church while keeping its heart intact. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    1h 20m
  4. OCT 29

    Ep 13 - She Preached Anyway: How Dr. Cynthia L. Hale Changed the Church

    In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. Cynthia L. Hale shares the courageous journey of a woman who answered God’s call when the church wasn’t ready to listen. As the founder and Senior Pastor of Ray of Hope Christian Church in Decatur, Georgia, Dr. Hale reflects on more than four decades of breaking barriers, building leaders, and preaching with conviction and grace. With wisdom shaped by experience, she explains what it means to lead without losing yourself, and how empowering others sustains both the pastor and the people. From her musical beginnings that shaped her voice and rhythm, to planting Ray of Hope with only four members in her apartment, Dr. Hale recounts how vision, discipline, and faith turned a small gathering into a movement. This conversation explores: The cost and courage of saying yes to God’s call as a woman in ministryHow mentoring and team-based leadership create healthy, lasting churchesThe vital connection between worship, justice, and pastoral responsibilityWhy rest, renewal, and boundaries are non-negotiables for effective leadershipHow empowerment and excellence keep ministry fresh across generationsFor every pastor, leader, and woman answering a difficult call, Dr. Hale offers both testimony and strategy — a masterclass in leading with integrity, longevity, and hope. Listen, share with someone who needs encouragement, and subscribe so you never miss an episode of The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    1h 1m
  5. OCT 15

    Ep 12 - Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. Explains the Power of Preaching in the Black Church

    In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr. explores Pulpit & Pew: The Sacred Exchange That Gives Life, a teaching on the living covenant between preacher and people that remains central to the Black Church. With wisdom forged through decades of preaching, Dr. Mapson examines what truly happens in the “preaching moment,” where the Word meets the listener and transformation begins. Drawing on Augustine’s charge to teach, delight, and move, he unpacks how instruction, clarity, and compassion keep preaching alive and effective in every generation. This conversation explores: How instruction anchors preaching amid growing biblical illiteracyWhy delight and rhetoric matter for attention, clarity, and joy in GodHow movement turns Sunday proclamation into Monday obedienceThe covenant between pulpit and pew and the “rights” both sharePreaching across generations without losing anyone in the roomAddressing crisis moments without losing the gospel’s centerFor preachers, teachers, and all who love the Church, this episode offers a masterclass in faithful communication where the gospel gives life and both pulpit and pew breathe together. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    45 min
  6. OCT 1

    Ep 11 - How Dr. DeForest B. Soaries Jr. Broke the Mold of Ministry, Money, & Politics

    In this episode of The Ministry Exchange, Rev. Dr. DeForest B. Soaries Jr. reflects on a ministry and public life that spans nearly three decades at First Baptist Church of Lincoln Gardens, service as New Jersey’s Secretary of State, and the creation of the groundbreaking dfree® Financial Freedom Movement. Shaped by mentors like Rev. S. Howard Woodson and Dr. Samuel DeWitt Proctor, Dr. Soaries shares how faith, politics, and community development intersected in his calling—and why financial freedom became central to his ministry. He also opens up about his unique role in the gospel music industry, managing artists like Tremaine Hawkins, BeBe & CeCe Winans, Commissioned, and Fred Hammond with a focus on stronger contracts, fair treatment, and theological integrity. This conversation explores: The origins and impact of the dfree® movementWhy pastors and churches must address money openly and honestlyLessons from balancing the pulpit and public officeBehind-the-scenes insights from managing gospel artists and protecting their workPractical steps for financial sustainability and pastoral careFor pastors, leaders, and communities seeking both spiritual and financial freedom, Dr. Soaries offers a powerful blueprint for ministry that transforms hearts, households, and entire congregations. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    1h 25m
  7. Ep 10 - Wounded But Still Walking:  A Conversation with Bishop Timothy J. Clarke

    SEP 17

    Ep 10 - Wounded But Still Walking: A Conversation with Bishop Timothy J. Clarke

    What happens when your life is consecrated to ministry before you’re even born? In this powerful episode, Bishop Timothy J. Clarke shares the story of a calling shaped by spiritual legacy, personal loss, and unwavering faithfulness. From growing up in Brooklyn—slipping into funerals just to hear great preaching—to becoming one of the most respected voices in the Church of God, Bishop Clarke reflects on the mentors who formed him, the theology that grounds him, and the pain that changed him. Now in his 43rd year pastoring First Church of God in Columbus, OH, he offers rare wisdom on leadership, grief, preaching without performance, and the sacred bond between pastor and people. This conversation explores: What it means to lead one church for over four decadesHow personal tragedy shaped his preaching and pastoral careThe power of mentorship, brotherhood, and spiritual coveringEncouragement for bi-vocational pastors and smaller congregationsWhy “God doesn’t bless churches—He blesses pastors”Whether you're leading a congregation of hundreds or holding things together with limited resources, this episode will encourage you to stay faithful, lead with integrity, and embrace the call—even when it still costs. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    1h 15m
  8. Ep 09 - Leadership At Scale:  A Conversation with Rev. Dr. William H. Curtis

    SEP 3

    Ep 09 - Leadership At Scale: A Conversation with Rev. Dr. William H. Curtis

    What does it take to lead faithfully at scale? Rev. Dr. William H. Curtis, Senior Pastor of Mount Ararat Baptist Church in Pittsburgh, joins The Ministry Exchange to reflect on nearly three decades of leadership, preaching, and community impact. In this candid conversation, Dr. Curtis shares: How mentors like Bishop Walter S. Thomas shaped his pastoral instinctsWhy preaching requires discipline, preparation, and integrityThe vision behind Mount Ararat’s groundbreaking “community tithe” programLessons learned from navigating public scrutiny and leading under pressureInsights on innovation, digital ministry, and co-founding The Church OnlineThis episode offers pastors and leaders practical wisdom for balancing tradition and innovation, protecting the pulpit, and leading with courage in today’s ever-changing ministry landscape. Have you subscribed to The Ministry Exchange yet? Join us for more conversations designed to equip church leaders with tools, insights, and encouragement for the journey ahead. Support the show Thanks for tuning in to The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson Where real conversations meet real ministry. 🎙️ Enjoying the podcast? Support the show ⬇️ https://www.buzzsprout.com/2456465/supporters/new 🎙️ The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is powered by MinistryForward Media Group, helping churches and leaders grow through media, strategy, and leadership tools. 📲 Stay Connected: Follow us on Instagram & Facebook: @ministryfwd / @drjwmapson Visit our website: www.ministryfwd.com (coming soon) Watch episodes on YouTube: Search “The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson” Want to collaborate or sponsor an episode? Reach out at: info@ministryfwd.com This episode is proudly sponsored by Terry Funeral Home Inc. For over 85 years, Terry Funeral Home has walked with families through life’s most sacred moments, offering care, dignity, and excellence when it matters most. Learn more at terryfuneralhome.com. This episode is also supported by our Silver Partner, Palmer Theological Seminary. Whole Gospel. Whole World. Whole Persons. Palmer equips leaders for transformative, justice-centered ministry through theological depth and holistic formation. Learn more at palmerseminary.edu.

    1h 14m

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The Ministry Exchange with Dr. Mapson is where real conversations meet real ministry. We tackle the hard questions facing today’s Black Church—from leadership and discipleship to cultural shifts and spiritual relevance. Hosted by Rev. Dr. J. Wendell Mapson Jr., this channel is a space for pastors, ministry leaders, and believers who are ready to reflect, wrestle, and reimagine what church can look like in today’s world.New episodes drop every other Wednesday with honest insights, thoughtful dialogue, and wisdom from decades of ministry. Powered by: MinistryForward Media Group