The Happy HSP Podcast

Kimberly Marshall

Are you a highly sensitive person (HSP) who often feels overwhelmed, misunderstood, or out of place in the world around you? Join host Kimberly Marshall on The Happy HSP Podcast as we dive deep into the personal stories of everyday HSPs, explore what it means to live life with heightened sensitivity, and discover the many reasons to celebrate our gentle nature.

  1. Honoring Childhood and Adult Sensitivity Through Healing, Play, and Presence

    2D AGO

    Honoring Childhood and Adult Sensitivity Through Healing, Play, and Presence

    In this episode, I’m joined by Angelique Foye-Fletcher. She’s a licensed therapist who works with highly sensitive children, adults, and families through play, presence, and neuroscience-informed healing. We talk about how early experiences shape our relationship with vulnerability, and why play isn’t just for kids but can also be a powerful tool for deeply feeling humans at any age. Angelique shares: What it means to be a “deep-feeling kid” who grows up too fast.How play therapy supports emotional regulation, safety, and expression for children.Why play is just as powerful and necessary for adults as it is for kids.How highly sensitive parents often need to reparent themselves.Why joy can be a form of loving rebellion and healing.The importance of authenticity and being imperfectly human.Topics covered: Vulnerability, safety, and emotional attunement.Play therapy and child-centered healing.Using play, sensory tools, and creativity for adult healing.Perfectionism, people-pleasing, and the fawn response.Reclaiming joy and presence as an HSP.Authenticity, boundaries, and emotional connection.Healing across generations for deep-feeling families.About Angelique Foye-Fletcher: Angelique R. Foye-Fletcher is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and Registered Play Therapist based in Kansas City, Missouri. She is the founder and owner of Foye-Fletcher Therapy LLC, where she helps overwhelmed parents, children, caregivers, and families reconnect with their needs, heal from generational patterns, and rediscover joy through play, connection, nature, and story.  Angelique has been featured as a mental health expert on Great Day KC, FOX 4 KC, and KMBC, and has presented for organizations such as the Mental Health KC Conference, Johnson County Library, and local school and community programs. Through her private practice, workshops, and collaborations, Angelique continues to bridge clinical insight with everyday tools that foster growth and connection.  Follow along on Angelique’s journey: Website: foyefletchertherapy.com Instagram: @foyefletchertherapy  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/afoyefletcher Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Foye-Fletcher-Therapy-61577289801782/ Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    43 min
  2. Self-Acceptance and Stepping into Your Power as an HSP

    DEC 16

    Self-Acceptance and Stepping into Your Power as an HSP

    Today, I’m joined by psychotherapist, author, and host of the Sensitive Stories podcast April Snow. We explore how to embrace your inner landscape and build confidence and clarity, all why honoring who you are — fully and unapologetically. We talk boundaries, empathy, and how to find the keys that gently unlock your best self and inner growth. April shares: Her journey toward self-acceptance as an HSP.What shifted when she stopped trying to be “less sensitive.”How highly sensitive nervous systems process the world differently.Tools and reminders for grounding, clarity, and inner safety.Real examples of HSP leadership, confidence, and courage.How reframing sensitivity can lead to empowerment rather than overwhelm.Topics covered: How societal conditioning affects HSP self-worth.Boundaries, energy management, and external expectations.Empowered leadership and confidence as an HSP.Why authenticity increases clarity, creativity, and impact.Real-life examples of HSPs thriving in work and career.How empowerment builds resilience and grounded confidence.About April Snow: April Snow is a licensed psychotherapist, author, host of the Sensitive Stories podcast, and teacher of the Sensitive Sessions workshop series. She specializes in working with highly sensitive people to help calm the storm of overwhelm, anxiety, and self-doubt to allow their innate sensitive strengths to shine through. In addition to her popular HSP workbook, Find Your Strength, she’s currently writing her next book Big Feelings, Big Joy which will be published Fall 2026.  Follow along on April’s journey: Website: https://www.sensitivestrengths.com  Podcast: https://www.sensitivestories.com  Find Your Strength Workbook: https://www.sensitivestrengths.com/find-your-strength  Sensitive Sessions Workshops: https://www.sensitivesessions.com  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sensitivestrengths  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sensitivestrengths  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@sensitivestrengths   Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    39 min
  3. Rethinking Parenting, Education, and Society Through the HSP Lens

    DEC 9

    Rethinking Parenting, Education, and Society Through the HSP Lens

    In this episode, I sit down with Amy Vasterling — public speaker, author, teacher, and intuitive — to explore how HSPs can transform parenting, education, and society. Amy and I discuss the concept of expressive expansion, reframing the role of sensitivity in society, and how to create systems that allow HSPs to pave the path to a thriving society that works for all. Amy shares: How early experiences of feeling misunderstood shaped her perspective on parenting and education.The importance of seeing patterns and anticipating societal changes as an HSP.Why highly sensitive children can become changemakers when supported correctly.Real-life examples of helping children fill in their own learning gaps while cultivating independence.The idea of collapsing narcissistic patterns in society to allow expressive expansion.Practical approaches to helping highly sensitive people (children and adults) thrive while maintaining their unique perspective and autonomy.Topics covered: Early childhood development for highly sensitive children.Differences in cultural approaches to nurturing sensitivity.The role of highly sensitive people as protectors and changemakers in society.Strategies for education that work for HSPs and everyone else.Overcoming societal hierarchies and narcissistic social patterns.How embracing uniqueness leads to natural equality and societal benefit.About Amy Vasterling: Amy Cerny Vasterling is a public speaker, author, teacher, and intuitive sharing the importance of returning to your personal knowing.   Amy observed the recurrence of people’s aim to tell others “I know better for you than you know for yourself” and realized this was a key to the full story of the insecurity behind it all. Amy believes humanity has a great future as we mature emotionally and leave something she calls The Model behind.  Now, she empowers individuals and communities to return to the truth of who they are so they can restore human connection, find where they truly belong, and fully live life. Follow along on Amy’s journey: Website: www.amyvasterling.com YouTube: www.youtube.com/@AmyCernyVasterling Instagram: www.instagram.com/amyvasterling/ Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    46 min
  4. Understanding High Sensitivity Through Energy, Alignment, and Authenticity

    DEC 2

    Understanding High Sensitivity Through Energy, Alignment, and Authenticity

    In this episode, I talk with Willow McIntosh about his journey of discovering he was highly sensitive, how he learned to understand and develop the deeper sensory experiences he’d been having since childhood, and how those experiences led him into work that focuses on purpose, truth, and flow.  Willow shares how his awareness, mentorship, and training shaped his ability to help other HSPs uncover their purpose and gifts. Willow shares: His early childhood awareness of flow, energy, and the feeling of a larger intelligence moving through people and nature.His lifelong fascination with purpose and potential.How energy feels flowing through the body.How he now helps HSPs uncover how to work in partnership with their gifts.The difference between living from authentic identity versus living from story and conditioning.How authenticity contributes to a healthier and more aligned world.Topics covered: Early childhood experiences with energy, flow, and sensing truth.The role of curiosity and lifelong fascination in uncovering purpose.Sensory experiences, such as clairsentience, claircognizance, clairvoyance, and clairaudience.How energy blockages form and how to work through them.The way deeper processing ties into purpose for HSPs.How Willow works with clients using the high sensory method.About Willow McIntosh Willow is a facilitator, international speaker, and founder of Inluminance. He specialises in facilitating Highly Sensitive People (HSPs), to recognise their innate High Sensory Intelligence® An ability to perceive truth of self in others and the energetic patterns at play in their environment.  His area of expertise is training HSPs to align their work and purpose with these unique perceptual gifts. Having facilitated change and transformation in thousands of HSPs since 2017, he is committed to bringing the importance of the trait into mainstream awareness globally. Learn more at inluminance.com or book your free discovery call here - https://inluminance.com/book-a-call Follow along on Willow’s journey: Website: www.inluminance.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/willowmcintosh/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@inluminance Book a free session with Willow: https://training.inluminance.com/20-minute-session  Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    37 min
  5. The HSP's Journey in Personal Growth, Intuition, and Spiritual Awakening

    NOV 25

    The HSP's Journey in Personal Growth, Intuition, and Spiritual Awakening

    In this episode of The Happy HSP Podcast, Kimberly sits down with Elisha May to explore the deeply personal and intuitive journey of spiritual awakening as a highly sensitive person. Together, they talk about what it really feels like to lean into inner knowing, embrace intuition, and navigate the spiritual shifts that often come with being an HSP. This conversation is grounding, expansive, and full of gentle guidance for sensitive souls who are ready to step into a deeper sense of themselves. In this episode, Elisha shares: Her personal journey of awakening and how it reshaped her understanding of sensitivity.What her intuition feels like and how she trusts it.The spiritual practices that help her feel connected, centered, and guided.What it looks like to integrate growth without overwhelming the nervous system.The ways sensitivity acts as a bridge to deeper spiritual awareness.Topics covered: The connection between sensitivity and spiritual awakening.How to recognize your unique intuitive language.How to navigate emotional intensity during periods of spiritual expansion.Grounding techniques and rituals for HSPs engaged in deep inner growth.Practical ways to honor your sensitivity while evolving spiritually.Why awakening often feels both difficult and transformative for HSPs.About Elisha May: Elisha May is an Intuitive Energy Coach, Empath, and Founder of Freedom of Self® - a soul-led movement helping people let go of who they think they should be and live as who they really are. After years of navigating trauma, loss, burnout, and breakdowns of identity, Elisha reclaimed her truth - not by fixing herself, but by remembering who she was underneath it all. Now, through her signature program Freedom of Self® (coming soon!), she guides empaths, sensitives, and soul-led rebels out of emotional chaos, self-abandonment, and suppression - and into clarity, confidence, and a life that actually feels like theirs. Her work isn’t about mindset hacks or behaviour change - it’s deep, embodied liberation. Follow along on Elisha’s journey: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iamelishamay/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iamelishamay/ LinkedIn: https://www.facebook.com/iamelishamay/ Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    43 min
  6. How High Sensitivity Shapes HSPs and the World Around Us

    NOV 18

    How High Sensitivity Shapes HSPs and the World Around Us

    *Content Warning: This episode includes mentions of suicide, which may be sensitive for some listeners. Today I’m joined by Dr. Tracy Cooper. He is a leading expert in our field who is known for his research and a wide-ranging scope of projects.  If you’re an HSP who loves to think deeply about the entire picture of high sensitivity and from a variety of angles, then this episode is for you. Dr. Cooper Shares How societal expectations influence the way men mask or embrace their sensitivity.The importance of early development in shaping coping strategies.How HSPs can create supportive and sustainable work environments.His work with Sensitive Men Rising, a film project showcasing sensitive men.Thoughts on the role sensitivity plays in personal growth.Topics covered: Understanding high sensation seeking HSPs.Navigating HSP masculinity in modern culture.Career insights for HSPs and supporting sustainability and growth.The balance between thrill-seeking and emotional depth.Mental health, trauma, and resilience for HSPs.About Dr. Tracy Cooper Dr. Tracy Cooper is a leading expert on highly sensitive people (HSPs), high sensation seeking HSPs, and highly sensitive men. He co-produced the documentary Sensitive Men Rising and authored three books: Thrive: The Highly Sensitive Person and Career, Thrill: The High Sensation Seeking Highly Sensitive Person, and Empowering the Sensitive Male Soul. Dr. Cooper serves as a professor at Baker University Graduate School of Education, mentoring doctoral candidates in higher education leadership. His work has been published in Current Research in the Behavioral Sciences, The New York Times, and Psychology Today, as well as numerous podcasts and articles. As an ambassador for non-profit Walt's Waltz.org, he promotes raising public awareness to reduce the stigma around mental health conversations, harm reduction, and suicide, especially in men. Dr. Cooper’s current focus is a 7-week online professional training for helping professionals focusing on high sensation seeking highly sensitive people.  Follow along on Dr. Cooper’s journey: Website: drtracycooper.org, sensitivemenrising.org Social: @tracycooperphd (Facebook, LinkedIn, Instagram) Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    53 min
  7. Self-Worth, Empathy, and Inner Transformation for HSPs

    NOV 11

    Self-Worth, Empathy, and Inner Transformation for HSPs

    Today’s conversation is one that goes straight to the heart of what it means to be a highly sensitive person. I’m joined by Josh Speraneo, a psychology major, self-proclaimed personal-development junkie, and an identity-shift coach who helps quiet, compassionate people show up with confidence and share their gifts with the world. We talk about Josh’s personal journey of rediscovering his self-worth as a highly sensitive man, understanding empathy as a true strength, and transforming from the inside out. Together, we explore how healing old narratives, setting boundaries, and embracing sensitivity can lead to genuine confidence and inner peace. Josh shares: His personal journey of self-discovery as a highly sensitive man.How to shift from emotional exhaustion to empowered compassion.The link between self-worth and emotional boundaries.What it means to find balance between sensitivity and strength.Practical tools for grounding and emotional regulation.Topics covered: Healing old self-worth stories as an HSP.Understanding empathy and energy exchange.Moving from overgiving to empowered care.How inner transformation begins with self-acceptance.Redefining sensitivity as a superpower.About Josh Speraneo: Josh is a psychology major, personal-development junkie, and identity-shift coach who helps quiet, compassionate people go from hiding in plain sight (due to self-doubt, fear, or overthinking) to showing up as the boldest, most authentic versions of themselves and sharing their gifts with the world!  His gentle, but powerful coaching style resonates deeply with people who identity as introverts, empaths, and highly sensitive people (or, as Josh prefers to call them: highly sensitive badasses!)  His emphasis on the area of healthy self-worth gives his clients a unique experience they won't find with any other coaches or teachers. This emphasis, when combined with proprietary frameworks like The Success Cycle, lends itself to powerful transformations and identity shifts in a short time (for those who aren't afraid to go deep and get crystal-clear on the lives they truly desire) Follow along with Josh’s journey:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josh-speraneo-thesuccesscycle Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    45 min
  8. Burnout, Brain Science, and Decision-Making for Highly Sensitive People

    NOV 4

    Burnout, Brain Science, and Decision-Making for Highly Sensitive People

    In today’s episode, I’m joined by international HSP researcher, author, and speaker Esther Bergsma. We explore what really happens inside the highly sensitive brain — and why so many sensitive people experience burnout, overwhelm, and self-doubt around decision-making. Esther shares her research on how HSPs process information more deeply, and how that can lead to exhaustion if we don’t understand and support our brains. This conversation is packed with science, validation, and practical tools for recovery. Esther shares: Her burnout story and how discovering she was an HSP changed everything.Why HSPs are sometimes “slow” at making decisions.The neurological differences in the highly sensitive brain.Why overstimulation leads to irritability.How empathy and depth of processing show up uniquely in HSPs.The link between brain activity and burnout.Why rest isn’t optional but essential for HSPs.Topics covered: HSP traits and identity through research.Decision-making as an HSP.Brain science and sensory processing sensitivity.Burnout recovery and nervous system health.Energy management and emotional overload.Rest and regulation strategies.Social overwhelm and people-pleasing.Working environments that drain HSPs.Boundaries and advocating for your needs.About Esther Bergsma: Esther Bergsma (MSc) is a social science researcher and expert on high sensitivity from the Netherlands. She is bestselling author of The Brain of the Highly Sensitive Person and several Dutch books on high sensitivity. She trains professionals in understanding and guiding HSPs better. From teachers, to counsellors, therapists and managers. Esther is international keynote speaker known for her comprehensible way to explain scientific findings.  Follow along with Esther’s journey: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esther-bergsma-1896327/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hoogsensitief.nl/ Website: https://hoogsensitief.nl/category/english-blogs/ Let’s Connect: 🤍 Share your biggest takeaway or follow us on Instagram @happyhsppodcast — we’d love to hear from you! 🎧 Subscribe and leave a review to help more HSPs find this space: thehappyhsppodcast.buzzsprout.com 📩 Want to be a guest on the show? Reach out to Kimberly at: kmarshall@happyhspcoaching.com 📖 Learn about Kimberly’s work: happyhspcoaching.com About Kimberly: Kimberly Marshall is a career coach for highly sensitive people (HSPs) and host of The Happy HSP Podcast. After 20 years in the publishing industry working for companies like Time Inc., Monster.com, and W. W. Norton, she left her corporate career to pursue work that better suited her HSP needs. She now helps HSPs overcome burnout and low confidence in the workplace and create gentle and nurturing careers that bring them lots of purpose, meaning, and joy. Through her work and creative ventures, Kimberly hopes to shed more light on the reality of living with high sensitivity and inspire more HSPs to embrace their empathetic, loving, and gentle natures. Hosted/produced by Kimberly Marshall Edited by Fonzie Try Media Artwork by Tara Corola...

    37 min

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Are you a highly sensitive person (HSP) who often feels overwhelmed, misunderstood, or out of place in the world around you? Join host Kimberly Marshall on The Happy HSP Podcast as we dive deep into the personal stories of everyday HSPs, explore what it means to live life with heightened sensitivity, and discover the many reasons to celebrate our gentle nature.

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