Avenue M

Haroon Moghul & Joey Taylor

We (Haroon Moghul and Joey Taylor) are two men on a journey of faith and meaning. In each episode, we sit down with a remarkable guest to unpack the moments that shape us, the struggles that build us and the questions that intrigue us.

  1. Jul 15

    Episode 25: Christians are Capitalists, Muslims are Socialists

    The Prosperity Gospel says God wants you to be rich. That if you tithe, believe, and work for it, the blessing comes back to you in this life, in your bank account, in your driveway, in your annual physical. Millions of people find this persuasive. But why? We go deep on the Prosperity of Gospel (and the Gospel of Luke), not to dunk on any denomination, but to ask where this theology comes from, what it’s doing, and what it’s missing. Joey questions whether Prosperity preachers really understand their Protestant priors and what’s abundance, anyway, before Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson claimed it? Haroon brings in barakah, the Muslim belief that faith doesn’t promise you more but transforms the relationship between what you have and what it yields. We argue about sacrifice, formation, and whether your tradition produces people who feel like believers — generous, present, uncomfortable with the right things — or if money’s filling the hole where God goes. Along the way: hair transplants in Turkey (something we can both refuse to get behind and look principled — and shiny — doing it), the Muslim prohibition on usury, the Protestant Reformation’s role in sanctifying wealth, Haroon produces the single verse from the Qur’an that rebuts the Prosperity Gospel, and whether we’re actually, at all, content with what we have. We can podcast the podcast, after all. But do we walk the transcript? Our sponsor is The Brueggeman Center for Dialogue at Xavier University, here in Cincinnati, which is dedicated to deepening understanding across faiths and promoting systemic change. Avenue M is produced by Bespoken Live with music by Zach Swelber, who plays in Circle It and Mosant.

    Episode 25: Christians are Capitalists, Muslims are Socialists
  2. Jun 23

    Episode 22: Daniel Yudkin - What Do Americans Really Want?

    For this episode, we talk to Daniel Yudkin about Potentialism, the emerging political philosophy at the center of the Beacon Project, as an effort to answer one of the oldest civic questions: What do we owe each other? Drawing from social psychology, political theory, and moral philosophy, Daniel argues that every person possesses a unique gift and that society should be organized around both the right to develop that gift and the responsibility to share it. Rather than positioning Potentialism as a radical break from American political traditions, he presents it as a recovery of forgotten ideas about contribution, virtue, and mutual obligation that have been obscured by contemporary political polarization. The conversation moves beyond politics into questions of identity, formation, and human nature. Daniel shares personal stories about his own experiences of hybridity, belonging, and identity, while we draw connections to religious traditions, civic formation, and the moral frameworks that shape communities. Throughout the discussion, the conversation returns to the tension between rights and responsibilities, institutions and culture, individual freedom and collective obligation, asking not only how societies should be organized, but what kinds of people democratic societies require. Our sponsor is The Brueggeman Center for Dialogue at Xavier University, here in Cincinnati, which is dedicated to deepening understanding across faiths and promoting systemic change. Avenue M is produced by Bespoken Live with music by Zach Swelber, who plays in Circle It and Mosant.

    Episode 22: Daniel Yudkin - What Do Americans Really Want?
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We (Haroon Moghul and Joey Taylor) are two men on a journey of faith and meaning. In each episode, we sit down with a remarkable guest to unpack the moments that shape us, the struggles that build us and the questions that intrigue us.

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