Wake Up Excited!

Brad Frost

Inspiring conversations with exuberant humans about how to live a creative, fulfilling, and authentic life. Hosted by enthusiasm enthusiast, Brad Frost. We experience a brief moment of truth when we first wake up in the morning. Before the cold shower of reality, our infinite to-do lists, and macro-level woes seize our consciousness. We experience a brief moment of excitement — and this pure moment tells us something important about ourselves. There are people out there who seem to move through life with intention, authenticity, creativity, kindness, and enthusiasm. And they do this despite the deeply inperfect world we inhabit. This podcast is an attempt to learn from these people. Through wide-ranging conversations, Wake Up Excited explores guests' passions, interests, enthusiasms, and philosophy of life.

  1. 4d ago

    Nostalgia, Legacy, and Finding What’s Next with Andy Clarke

    Andy Clarke shares what excites him lately, sparking memories of his early photography career and frequent trips to Schaffhausen. His pivot from art school and darkroom work into technical sales, and lessons about good selling as an art of solving real problems. The discussion moves to creative storytelling on the web, focus and distraction habits, challenges with open-plan offices, and how he’s built a work life around late-night rhythms and self-managed attention. Clarke also reflects on family history, his father’s suicide and trauma, changing views on mental health and heredity, and a desire to do more consequential political or social work while relearning how to create for pleasure. Topics: (00:00) - Introduction (01:17) - Rebuilding The Sinar Camera (08:28) - Pre Digital Car Shoots (14:28) - Sales Lessons That Stick (27:15) - Storytelling On The Web (37:10) - Writing Needs Silence (48:45) - Designing Your Rhythm with ADHD (01:08:01) - Turning 60 Reflections (01:12:36) - Mr Rogers Envy (01:17:49) - Providing vs Purpose (01:25:30) - Objects as Memory Anchors (01:40:43) - Music Picks and Billy Bragg (01:45:42) - Where to Follow Links:Up (2009 film)Love Story (1970 film)Philadelphia (1993 film)Mister Rogers' NeighborhoodMister Rogers biographyBilly BraggMotörheadMeat LoafLed ZeppelinMiranda LambertMegan MoroneyThe Rolling StonesPyotr Ilyich TchaikovskyWilcoWoody GuthrieBat Out of HellBetween the WarsPower in a UnionUnfinished Businessstuffandnonsense.co.ukSinar P2Schneider Super-AngulonIWC SchaffhausenRolexHermèsRickenbackerGibson Les PauliPod ClassicGame BoyTiffany & Co.AmazonDavid HockneyJeremy KeithPreston North End F.C.

  2. Aug 13

    Pottery, Theater, CSS Collaboration, and the Ethics of AI with Miriam Suzanne

    Brad chats with Miriam Suzanne about pottery, theater, CSS, and why we shouldn’t just accept AI as the way. Miriam describes their through-line as collaborative creativity across pottery, theater, client work, and CSS standards, arguing process shapes results and that CSS is inherently collaborative with users, browsers, and devices. She critiques rigid notions of originality and authenticity, emphasizing growth and multiplicity. Miriam rejects “results over process” arguments, challenges claims of democratization amid surveillance, environmental costs, and corporate control, and calls for collective agency to imagine and build better tools and systems.  Topics: (00:00) - Waking Up Excited (02:26) - Returning to Pottery (04:51) - Theater as Hybrid Art (07:00) - Inviting the Audience In (11:14) - Questioning Authenticity (17:20) - Theater in Prisons (28:36) - Facilitating Collaboration Everywhere (38:06) - Why CSS Feels Fuzzy (53:01) - AI for Early Prototypes (01:01:05) - Fix Orgs Not Tools (01:08:10) - Using AI Without Hype (01:17:40) - Uneasy Benefits Tradeoff (01:26:10) - AI's Original Sin And Accountability (01:36:28) - Vision And Agency (01:45:22) - Music Recommendation (01:48:09) - Where To Follow And CSS Courses Links:oddbird.netgrapefruitlab.commiriamsuzanne.comcourses.oddbird.netBalsamiqHarvestClaudeChatGPTDiscordThe Rolling StonesVelvet UndergroundLou ReedParliament-Funkadelic (P-Funk)Maggot Brain by FunkadelicTeacup GorillaEmily Rogers"Franchise" by Isaac AsimovWalt WhitmanJohn Allsopp — "Dao of Web Design"Busch GardensRiverdance"12 Angry Men"Timnit GebruEmily Bender

  3. Jul 31

    Paul Boag on AI, UX Democratization, and Building a Life-First Career

    Paul and Brad discuss how AI has reintroduced “Wild West” chaos to the web, which Paul finds energizing after years of predictable maturity in the industry. Drawing parallels to past disruptions like desktop publishing, CSS/web standards, and the dot-com bust, Paul argues that panic about AI replacing specialists will settle as organizations realize quality still matters. They emphasize learning through sharing, rejecting performative content marketing, and valuing humility over guru certainty. The conversation explores consulting as amplifying in-house teams’ knowledge, the need to adapt rigid UX processes, and how AI can help democratize UX by empowering non-specialists through playbooks, design systems, and easier access to research. Paul shares how he intentionally built a lifestyle business enabling RV travel, and closes on resilience, change, and optimism. Topics: (00:00) - Hello Chaos (04:10) - Tech Cycles And Jobs (07:27) - Letting Go To Grow (11:01) - Learning By Sharing (25:07) - Process Myths In UX (35:42) - Democratizing UX With AI (43:47) - AI As Meeting Facilitator (59:19) - Kill Handoff With AI (01:04:40) - Is Paul Retiring? (01:13:46) - Business Serves Life (01:33:16) - What Music Does Paul Want You to Know About? Links:◉ Jeffrey Zeldman ◉ Ethan Marcotte ◉ Steve Krug ◉ Jakob Nielsen ◉ boagworld.com ◉ Atomic Design ◉ Starlink ◉ Perplexity ◉ Material Design ◉ Double Diamond design process ◉ Desktop publishing history ◉ Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band ◉ Against the Wind (Spotify) ◉ Against the Wind (YouTube)

  4. Jul 23

    Nathan Curtis on AI, Design Systems Architecture, and Staying Aligned Beyond Figma

    Nathan Curtis discusses how his work has shifted over the past two years from leading design system teams to focusing on strict architecture and building tools that communicate design intent to engineering, energized by faster iteration enabled by AI. He reflects on his long history in design systems, including his 2009 book “Modular Web Design”. Curtis addresses why teams may feel threatened by AI amid layoffs and rapid tool adoption, arguing that system thinking, governance, and coordination remain essential even as non-deterministic workflows grow. He explains building an evolved Specs tool that extracts structured data from Figma via plugin and CLI for repeatable, cross-platform specifications, while cautioning against using agents where deterministic processes are more precise. They explore flexibility vs lockdown culture, Figma’s role as a typed database, ecosystem interoperability, and advice on writing, consulting, and choosing work that sustains energy. Links: Modular Web Design: Creating Reusable Components for User Experience Design and Documentation [Book]Directed Edges / Nathan CurtisWake Up Excited! | Ben Callahan on Building Community, Your Values, and the Power of ConnectionCenter CentreFROSTAPALOOZAMax Richter - On the Nature of Daylight - YouTubeMellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness (Remastered 2012) - YouTubeSpecsDirectedEdges/specs: Schema, types, and command line tools to record and manage UI component specifications.nathanacurtis on GitHubTopics: (00:00) - Introduction (04:56) - Motion Meets AI (07:06) - Threats and Layoffs (14:44) - Flexibility vs Governance (20:21) - Determinism vs Prediction (25:21) - Agentic UX Ergonomics (35:46) - Building the Specs Toolchain (49:52) - Sharing Versus Capitalism (56:05) - Finding Your Voice (01:00:23) - What's the Future Of Design Systems? (01:14:10) - Advice For New Consultants (01:23:23) - Breadth Versus Depth (01:27:26) - Wrap Up And Gratitude

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Inspiring conversations with exuberant humans about how to live a creative, fulfilling, and authentic life. Hosted by enthusiasm enthusiast, Brad Frost. We experience a brief moment of truth when we first wake up in the morning. Before the cold shower of reality, our infinite to-do lists, and macro-level woes seize our consciousness. We experience a brief moment of excitement — and this pure moment tells us something important about ourselves. There are people out there who seem to move through life with intention, authenticity, creativity, kindness, and enthusiasm. And they do this despite the deeply inperfect world we inhabit. This podcast is an attempt to learn from these people. Through wide-ranging conversations, Wake Up Excited explores guests' passions, interests, enthusiasms, and philosophy of life.

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