The Quantum Economy Podcast

Anders Indset
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The Quantum Economy Podcast is a series of conversations with leaders across quantum science, business, philosophy, and emerging technologies. Each episode brings together diverse perspectives to examine how exponential technologies, especially quantum computing, artificial intelligence, and biotechnology, contribute to core systems of human organization, including economics, governance, and scientific progress.

  1. May 4

    What Nobody Tells You About Qubit Count

    The quantum computing race is obsessed with one number: qubit count. But what if that’s simply not the right metric? In this episode, Anders Indset speaks with Thomas Luschmann, Co-Founder and COO of Peak Quantum — a Munich-based deep-tech startup that embeds error protection directly into the hardware architecture, rather than relying on costly error correction after the fact. In this conversation, they explore: Why more qubits alone will never deliver industrially useful quantum computing and what "better qubits" actually means How Peak Quantum's hardware-intrinsic approach compares to cat qubits, fluxonium, and topological qubits What it really takes to turn world-class university research into a fundable deep-tech company Whether Europe can build a sovereign quantum future or whether economic reality will force its best startups to look elsewhere What it means to build technology that may already be beyond our full understanding and what that tells us about where humanity is headed Thomas also shares Peak Quantum's 12-month proof-of-concept roadmap and his honest take on deep-tech fundraising, talent, and the asymmetry of who gets access to the first truly powerful quantum machines. Whether you're interested in quantum hardware, European innovation, or the deeper questions at the edge of science and society, this conversation goes well beyond the qubit count. About Thomas Luschmann https://www.linkedin.com/in/thomas-luschmann/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/peak-quantum-computing/ https://peakquantum.de/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/tomorrowmensch/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    1 hr

  2. Apr 27

    Can We Now Engineer Nature Itself?

    What if quantum computing allowed us to engineer nature at the atomic level? In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Professor Michelle Simmons, Founder & CEO of Silicon Quantum Computing and one of the world’s leading quantum materials scientists. For over 25 years, Simmons has pioneered a new approach to quantum computing, building systems atom by atom in silicon. This goes beyond faster computation. It opens the possibility to understand, simulate, and ultimately engineer nature itself. In this conversation, we explore: What it means to engineer nature at the atomic scale The race to build a fault-tolerant quantum computer Why silicon-based, atom-level qubits could unlock scalability How quantum systems allow us to simulate and recreate materials (“quantum twins”) The convergence of quantum computing and AI The philosophical implications: Are we moving from observing nature  to designing it? Michelle shares insights into her company’s roadmap toward a million-qubit quantum computer by 2033, and how her team is already delivering early products that accelerate AI and solve real-world problems. Beyond technology, this episode explores the mindset behind innovation, where competition, collaboration, and curiosity come together to tackle some of the hardest challenges in science. Whether you're interested in quantum computing, artificial intelligence, deep tech, or the future of innovation, this conversation offers a rare inside look at one of the most advanced fields shaping our world. About Michelle Simmons https://www.linkedin.com/in/michelle-simmons-34662921a/ https://www.linkedin.com/company/silicon-quantum-computing-pty-ltd/ https://www.sqc.com.au/About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    54 min

  3. Apr 20

    What If Europe’s Biggest Weakness Becomes Its Advantage?

    Europe is often seen as strong in science but weak in execution. In quantum technology, this is starting to change. In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Prof. Tommaso Calarco, Director at Forschungszentrum Jülich and one of the key figures behind Europe’s Quantum Flagship. They discuss the current state of quantum technology in Europe, the global race with the US and China, and how Europe is moving from research into real-world deployment. Quantum systems are being deployed and tested in public infrastructure, supercomputing platforms, and communication networks across Europe. This episode covers: The future of quantum computing and quantum infrastructure in Europe Europe’s role in the global quantum technology race The challenge of venture capital, scale-up funding, and deep tech investment Different approaches to quantum computing, including neutral atoms, semiconductors, and NV centers How quantum communication infrastructure is being developed Why quantum can strengthen European collaboration and technological sovereignty The conversation also explores broader questions: How quantum systems influence our understanding of information, probability, and decision-making The role of education, quantum engineering, and interdisciplinary skills How quantum technologies and AI influence society and governance A grounded and forward-looking conversation on quantum and Europe’s position in the next wave of technology innovation. About Tommaso Calarco https://www.fz-juelich.de/en/research/research-fields/information/quantum-technology/tommaso-calarco https://qt.eu/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    1h 11m

  4. Mar 23

    What Comes After The Internet?

    Most of the attention in quantum goes to computing. But there is another layer and it’s already being built. Quantum networking is already being tested on real telecom infrastructure from New York to Deutsche Telekom’s network in Berlin. In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Noel Goddard, CEO of Qunnect, about how quantum is being built, tested, and run in real infrastructure. They discuss what quantum networks actually are, how they differ from today’s internet, and why security is emerging as the first practical use case. The conversation also explores the technical challenges of building quantum infrastructure, the realities behind the hype, and what it takes to turn deep-tech research into deployable hardware. Looking ahead, Noel outlines a longer-term vision: connecting quantum computers, sensors, and data centers — and building the foundation for a new layer of the internet. A grounded and forward-looking conversation on quantum, infrastructure, and the future of information systems. About Noel Goddard https://www.linkedin.com/in/noel-goddard-b973225/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    1h 11m

  5. Mar 16

    Who Will Control the Quantum Age?

    In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with Zeynep Korutürk, co-founder of Firgun Ventures and former Executive Director at Goldman Sachs, about the emerging investment landscape around quantum technologies. Zeynep shares her perspective on how the quantum ecosystem has evolved over the past decade – from a field with only a few dozen startups to a rapidly expanding global industry with hundreds of companies. The conversation explores why the biggest bottleneck today may not be scientific progress, but capital: many promising quantum startups struggle to secure the Series A and Series B funding needed to scale. Together, they discuss what it takes to invest in quantum technologies, how venture capital differs in a field rooted in physics rather than software, and why talent, engineering execution, and long-term vision are critical for identifying the future leaders of the industry.  The discussion also touches on geopolitics, the global race between the US, Europe, and China, the convergence of quantum computing with AI and biotechnology, and how investors should think about responsibility and long-term impact in technologies that could fundamentally reshape industries and economies. This episode is a deep dive into the intersection of quantum science, venture capital, and the future of technological progress. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 02:03 Quantum Investment Landscape 05:04 The Evolution of Quantum Technologies 07:52 Investment Strategies in Quantum 10:49 Talent Acquisition in Quantum Startups 13:38 Navigating Series A and B Funding Challenges 16:47 The Asymmetric Upside of Quantum Computing 19:32 Differences Between Quantum and Traditional VC 22:30 The Future of Quantum Exits and Acquisitions 25:38 Balancing Scientific Breakthroughs with Commercial Viability 28:30 Geopolitical Implications of Quantum Technology 31:27 Global Landscape of Quantum Technology 35:00 Sovereign Capital and Geopolitical Dynamics 38:10 Convergence of AI, Quantum, and Biotech 41:07 Investor Responsibilities in Quantum Development 44:09 Future of Quantum Technology and Market Dynamics 46:52 Rethinking Economic Structures in a Quantum Era 48:38 Predictions for Quantum's Future and Investment Strategies About Zeynep Korutürk https://www.linkedin.com/in/zeynepkoruturk/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK: The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    55 min

  6. Mar 9

    Does Time Exist?

    Time feels obvious to us. It flows from the past to the present and into the future. But in modern physics, time is anything but simple. In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset speaks with theoretical physicist Dr. Sravan Kumar about one of the deepest mysteries in physics: the nature of time, black holes, and whether information can truly disappear from the universe. Dr. Kumar’s recent work revisits Einstein–Rosen bridges – structures often associated with wormholes – and proposes a new interpretation of how spacetime, quantum mechanics, and gravity might be connected. The conversation explores questions such as whether the universe could contain two arrows of time, how the black hole information paradox might be resolved, and what these ideas could mean for the future of physics. Dr. Sravan Kumar is a theoretical physicist whose research focuses on quantum gravity, black holes, and the early universe. His work explores how quantum mechanics and gravity may ultimately be unified to better understand the fundamental structure of reality.  The discussion became a fascinating exploration at the intersection of physics, philosophy, and the deeper questions about the universe. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 01:54 Exploring the Nature of Time 06:49 Cultural Influences on Scientific Inquiry 11:51 The Journey into Quantum Gravity 16:29 Einstein-Rosen Bridges and Information Paradox 21:45 Two Arrows of Time and Information Preservation 26:37 The Emergence of Time and the Big Bang 31:13 Quantum Computing and Time Symmetry 46:10 Understanding Control in Quantum Systems 49:13 Simulating Quantum Gravity and Cosmic Phenomena 51:55 The Simulation Hypothesis and Its Implications 54:58 Exploring Information First Ontology 57:58 The Future of Quantum Computing and Society 01:02:09 Entanglement and Its Role in Space-Time 01:04:56 Consciousness and Quantum Mechanics 01:10:55 The Challenge of AI Hallucinations 01:18:59 Cross-Disciplinary Collaboration for Progress About Sravan Kumar https://www.linkedin.com/in/k-sravan-kumar-a0b45b72/ A new understanding of Einstein–Rosen bridges: https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1361-6382/ae3044   Other relevant detailed papers  https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/17/1/29  https://academic.oup.com/ptep/article/2024/12/123E01/7911842  https://www.mdpi.com/2073-8994/17/7/1056  https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1475-7516/2024/06/001  Schrodinger's expanding Universes paper first pointed about Universe with two arrows of time: https://www.cambridge.org/gb/universitypress/subjects/physics/cosmology-relativity-and-gravitation/expanding-universe?format=PB&isbn=9780521172172   About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOKThe Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    1h 26m

  7. Mar 2

    The Limits of Human Understanding?

    In this episode of The Quantum Economy Podcast, Anders Indset sits down with Dr. Pavel Hrmo, CEO and co-founder of ZuriQ — a Swiss quantum computing startup spun out of ETH Zürich. ZuriQ is taking a radically different approach to one of quantum computing’s biggest challenges: scalability. Instead of relying on traditional one-dimensional ion chains, Dr. Hrmo and his team are developing a reconfigurable two-dimensional ion array using Penning trap architecture — a breakthrough that could unlock a new path toward large-scale, practical quantum systems. Together, Anders and Pavel explore whether trapped-ion systems could become the foundation of scalable quantum computing, how ZuriQ’s architecture differs from players like IonQ and Quantinuum, and how Europe positions itself in the global quantum race. They also dive into deeper questions: When will quantum computing create real economic impact? How will AI and quantum computing converge? Will AI accelerate quantum breakthroughs — or will quantum redefine AI? Are there fundamental limits to computation and energy? And are we approaching a “post-theory” era where machines outperform human understanding? From error correction and qubit scaling to AGI, creativity, and the philosophy of technology, this episode explores the intersection of physics, artificial intelligence, and the future of human agency in a world increasingly shaped by advanced computation. A conversation about quantum systems and the limits of human understanding. Episode breakdown: 00:00 Introduction 01:51 Quantum Computing Innovations 04:59 ZuriQ’s Unique Approach to Scaling Qubits 07:30 Challenges and Opportunities in Quantum Computing 10:44 Comparing Quantum Technologies: Trapped Ions vs. Others 13:36 The Role of Engineering and Physics in Quantum Development 16:41 Economic Implications of Quantum Computing 19:38 The Future of Quantum Ecosystems 22:31 The Intersection of Quantum Computing and AI 25:54 The Nature of Creativity in AI and Quantum 28:38 Philosophical Implications of AI and Quantum Computing 34:04 The Intersection of AI and Human Creativity 36:34 The Limitations of AI in Understanding 41:03 Quantum Computing and Its Implications 43:58 The Role of Human Judgment in an AI-Driven World 48:07 The Future of Quantum Computing and Its Challenges 56:44 Ethical Considerations in AI and Quantum Technology 58:47 The Future of ZuriQ and European Tech Landscape About Pavel Hrmo https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavel-hrmo/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy: https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset http://x.com/andersindset

    1h 3m

  8. Feb 23

    Quantum Doesn't Work Without This

    What does it really take to make quantum computers work at scale? Anders Indset hosts Steve Brierley, founder & CEO of Riverlane, to unpack fault-tolerant quantum computing's potential to revolutionize chemistry, materials science, and climate tech. Discover why qubits are so fragile, how 25 years of error rate improvements still fall short, and the trillion-operation leap needed for real-world impact. Steve reveals Riverlane's real-time error correction stack—accelerating hardware roadmaps by 3-5 years across superconducting, trapped ions, neutral atoms, silicon spins, and NV centers. Key insights: Crossing the QEC threshold: From 1,000 to billions of error-free operations Quantum + AI/HPC: Hybrid workflows for next-gen supercomputing First applications: Quantum chemistry, materials design, efficient catalysts Quantum computers as "programmable models of nature" for new physics discoveries They also tackle big questions: Are quantum machines or nature's simulators? Can quantum-AI uncover new elements or physical laws? Is consciousness computable? 00:00 Introduction 01:37 The Fragility of Qubits and Error Correction 04:40 Engineering Challenges in Quantum Computing 07:40 Exploring Different Qubit Modalities 11:48 Commercial Pathways for Quantum Computing 13:58 The Role of Quantum Computing in Chemistry 18:40 The Intersection of Quantum Computing and AI 21:33 Quantum Mechanics: A Model of Nature 24:39 Exploring New Physics with Quantum Computers 34:34 Exploring Quantum Simulations and Reality 37:36 The Future of Quantum Computing and AI Convergence 42:07 The Implications of AI and Quantum Technologies 49:24 The Nature of Consciousness and Human Uniqueness 56:20 The Future of Quantum Error Correction and Industry Impact About Steve Brierley https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-brierley-72127a142/ About Anders Indset Anders Indset is the world’s leading business philosophers and the author of seven international bestsellers. With recent works such as Ex Machina – The God Experiment and The Singularity Paradox: Bridging the Gap Between Humanity and AI, his thought leadership has expanded far beyond economics and classical philosophy – earning him recognition from leading scientists and technologists, including prominent physicists. As the founder of tomorrowmensch, he invests in breakthrough science and technologies and convenes leading thinkers, investors, and entrepreneurs shaping the future. NEW BOOK The Quantum Economy https://andersindset.com/shop/The-Quantum-Economy-p803754261 https://andersindset.com/ https://tomorrowmensch.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/andersindset/ https://www.instagram.com/andersindset https://x.com/AndersIndset

    1h 3m
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The Quantum Economy Podcast is a series of conversations with leaders across quantum science, business, philosophy, and emerging technologies. Each episode brings together diverse perspectives to examine how exponential technologies, especially quantum computing, artificial intelligence, and biotechnology, contribute to core systems of human organization, including economics, governance, and scientific progress.

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  • Creator
    Anders Indset
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    2025 - 2026
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    34
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