Signal

RocketRez

Signal is a podcast for leaders in the attractions industry who are shaping the future of guest experiences. Hosted by RocketRez CEO John Pendergrast and industry veteran Tim Samson, each episode brings candid, forward-looking conversations about the challenges and opportunities facing operators today. From the evolution of the experience economy to the role of technology, shifting consumer behaviors, and the operational realities of running attractions, Signal goes beyond surface-level commentary. John and Tim draw on their unconventional paths—from roller coasters and reservation systems to scaling enterprise software—to uncover what really matters for the next decade of attractions. Expect stories from operators, insights from thought leaders, and honest discussions that cut through the noise. Signal isn’t just about trends—it’s about helping attractions leaders navigate change with clarity, connection, and a guest-first mindset. 👉 New episodes drop regularly. Subscribe and join the conversation on the future of attractions.

  1. Episode 1

    Kari Manev — Operator Pitfalls & Word on the Street

    Why are so many waterparks still missing out on revenue they could easily capture? Kari Manev started as a lifeguard, became a waterpark director of operations, and has since worked in revenue management and founded Attraxion.ai. She joins John and Tim to explain: Why open-date tickets should cost moreHow one park moved from variable to dynamic pricing and is already beating its best year by 11%Why cart abandonment might be the fastest revenue win on your listWhat advance purchase does behind the scenes: better forecasts, smarter staffing, and no more running out of chicken tenders at 2 p.m. Show NotesYou'll hear about: Why open-date tickets should be a premium product, and how rewarding guests for choosing a date pays offHow one park moved from variable to dynamic pricing and is already 11% ahead of its best yearThe operational payoff of advance purchase: better forecasts, smarter staffing, and kitchen pars that hold up on a busy SaturdayWhy cart abandonment recovery may be the single fastest revenue win for most operatorsWhat RFID taught operators about evaluating technology: when 5–12% utilization creates long lines at the front gateWhere the attractions industry really stands on AI, and practical places to start, from analyzing guest reviews to building internal tools for staffWhy every operator needs an AI policy before a key employee walks out the door with the tools they builtWhy the best time to make a technology decision is during the busy season, not after it Timestamps(00:00) — Introduction: Meet Kari Manev (01:24) — From Six Flags lifeguard to waterpark director of operations (04:25) — Why Kari moved from operations into revenue technology (07:16) — What keeps her hooked, and "the Jane problem" (08:53) — How RocketRez and Attraxion.ai feed each other (12:25) — What operators are saying in summer 2026 (13:42) — Is it a technology problem or a people problem? (15:24) — Ticket scanning, NFC, and the human side of technology (18:26) — The RFID lesson: when low utilization creates long gate lines (20:42) — Why technology can't be evaluated in isolation (23:55) — Using AI to stress-test decisions against guest and team impact (25:01) — How Kari helps operators evaluate new technology (27:16) — Money on the table: the case for dynamic pricing (29:57) — From "we can't raise prices" to busier than ever (31:50) — The hidden benefits of advance purchase: forecasting, staffing, and kitchen pars (33:12) — Cart abandonment: the revenue most operators aren't recovering (36:28) — Price transparency and the "as low as" problem (38:30) — If you could only pick one: cart abandonment or dynamic pricing? (39:51) — The AI reality check: where the industry actually stands (45:46) — Choosing the right AI tool for the job (49:09) — Why every operator needs an AI policy (51:35) — Where to start with AI: just ask (53:14) — When AI tools have personalities (55:17) — The buying cycle: why summer is the right time to decide (1:00:00) — Fighting analysis paralysis (1:01:56) — The gap between what vendors build and what operators need (1:04:18) — Mobile ordering, wait times, and fairness (1:07:07) — What attractions can learn from ski areas, hotels, and Chipotle (1:08:39) — What will separate the operators who pull ahead (1:10:41) — The one thing to do right now (1:12:07) — How fast will the industry change? About Kari ManevKari Manev brings over two decades of experience in waterpark operations, hospitality, and technology. She began as a lifeguard at Six Flags Hurricane Harbor, later leading training and grand openings for CoCo Key Water Resorts and training teams internationally at SST in the UAE. Today, she helps attractions improve revenue and guest experience at RocketRez and, as founder of Attraxion.ai, helps leaders put AI and emerging technology to work in their operations. She serves on WWA’s Technology Committee and the board of The Gift of Swimming in Windermere, Florida. Links & ResourcesConnect with Kari Manev on LinkedInLearn more about Attraxion.aiLearn more about RocketRezFollow John and Tim on LinkedIn About SignalSignal is the podcast for attraction leaders shaping the future of guest experiences. Hosted by John Pendergrast and Tim Samson, we bring you candid conversations with industry innovators who are building the experiences that bring people together. Subscribe to Signal wherever you get your podcasts, and visit signal-podcast.com for more episodes and resources. This episode of Signal is brought to you by RocketRez - powering the world's most successful attraction operations.

  2. Episode 2

    Water Safety Products - What Four Decades of Serving Waterparks Teaches You About Listening to Customers

    How do you become a trusted name in the waterpark world and stay one for nearly 40 years? Paula, George, and Haley are the family behind Water Safety Products, whose lifeguard suits, rescue tubes, and breakaway lanyards are used at parks in more than 30 countries. They join John and Tim to share: How to tell a one-off customer request from a need the whole industry hasWhy a new product takes about two years to make it into park budgetsHow long-standing relationships survived the industry's shift to corporate ownershipWhy waterparks are still "the industry that hugs" Show NotesYou'll hear about: How a 1987 request from Wet 'n Wild turned a fashion swimwear brand into the go-to supplier of lifeguard uniformsWhy "listen to your customers" only works if you can tell a one-off request from an industry-wide needThe industry staples that started as operator ideas: breakaway lanyards, colored rescue tubes, the Scott Carruthers bead program, and the new Whistle of the YearWhy new products take about two years to show up in park budgets, and what that means for suppliers and operatorsHow long-standing relationships have held up as the waterpark industry has become more corporate and more internationalWhat it was like opening Ferrari World and Yas Waterworld in Abu Dhabi, and engineering waterparks across the U.S. for 22 yearsBringing decoration in-house with Satellite Screen Printing, and why knowing a park's real opening date matters more than the order deadlineThe honest pros and cons of running a family business, and advice for anyone thinking about starting one Timestamps(00:00) — Introduction: Meet Paula, George, and Haley of Water Safety Products (00:24) — From fashion swimwear to lifeguard suits: how it all started (03:51) — Walking out of the fashion business and starting a company at home (07:04) — Growing up in the warehouse (and Box Fort Town) (11:22) — Growing 25% a year for a decade (13:01) — What "listening to customers" actually looks like on the ground (14:38) — Telling a one-off request from an industry trend (16:14) — Why new products take two years to hit the market (18:17) — Industry staples that started as customer ideas (21:28) — The Whistle of the Year (24:35) — "The industry that hugs": why waterpark people never leave (26:53) — Waterpark culture vs. the surf industry (30:31) — How a more corporate industry has (and hasn't) changed relationships (31:59) — Going international: Dubai after 9/11 (34:17) — Navigating cultural differences in swimwear (36:33) — The IAAPA fashion show years (37:44) — George's path: opening Ferrari World and Yas Waterworld (44:35) — Haley's path: 22 years engineering waterparks at Water Technology (49:55) — Why Canada has so few outdoor waterparks (51:36) — Why George came back to the family business (56:40) — The business within the business: Satellite Screen Printing (1:09:05) — Controlling priorities and knowing a park's real deadline (1:10:42) — Do they share the same vision for the future? (1:16:18) — The hardest part of working with Mom (and with your kids) (1:22:22) — Haley's 1992 waterpark road trip journal (1:24:55) — George's shotgun slide rescue (1:27:23) — Advice for anyone starting a family business (1:32:38) — What's next for Water Safety Products About Paula PantonPaula Panton is the founder of Water Safety Products, Inc., a Florida-based international supplier of lifeguard uniforms and safety equipment. After years in the fashion swimwear business, Paula designed her first lifeguard suits for Wet 'n Wild in 1987 and incorporated Water Safety Products in 1989, starting the company out of her home. Over nearly four decades, Paula has built the company by listening to operators and turning their ideas into products. Water Safety Products helped introduce the breakaway lanyard, colored rescue tubes, and the Scott Carruthers bead program, and now serves waterparks and aquatic facilities in more than 30 countries. For about ten years, Paula and her team also produced the fashion show that opened the IAAPA Expo. About George PantonGeorge Panton is Vice President of Water Safety Products, Inc. and President of Satellite Screen Printing, the company's in-house screen printing, embroidery, and transfer printing operation. He began his aquatic career as a Brevard County Ocean Rescue beach lifeguard and is a graduate of the University of Denver. After college, George led the pre-opening souvenir photography program at Ferrari World Abu Dhabi and served as the first merchandise manager for Yas Waterworld Abu Dhabi. Since returning to the U.S., he has led customer service, marketing, and product innovation at Water Safety Products, and has visited more than 100 waterparks worldwide. About Haley ConradHaley Conrad joined Water Safety Products after a 22-year career at Water Technology, Inc., where she engineered, project managed, and sold waterpark projects across the United States and opened the company's Texas office. A Tulane University engineering graduate, Haley now leads manufacturing and production at Water Safety Products, with a focus on keeping lifeguard swimwear made in the USA. Links & ResourcesLearn more about Water Safety Products https://www.watersafety.com/Connect with George Panton on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-panton-7714111aConnect with Haley Conrad on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-conrad-5606594Learn more about RocketRez https://www.rocketrez.com/

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Signal is a podcast for leaders in the attractions industry who are shaping the future of guest experiences. Hosted by RocketRez CEO John Pendergrast and industry veteran Tim Samson, each episode brings candid, forward-looking conversations about the challenges and opportunities facing operators today. From the evolution of the experience economy to the role of technology, shifting consumer behaviors, and the operational realities of running attractions, Signal goes beyond surface-level commentary. John and Tim draw on their unconventional paths—from roller coasters and reservation systems to scaling enterprise software—to uncover what really matters for the next decade of attractions. Expect stories from operators, insights from thought leaders, and honest discussions that cut through the noise. Signal isn’t just about trends—it’s about helping attractions leaders navigate change with clarity, connection, and a guest-first mindset. 👉 New episodes drop regularly. Subscribe and join the conversation on the future of attractions.