Transforming Relationships

Eric Spiegel and David Alter

Transforming Relationships is a podcast about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. The hosts, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter, bring their decades of expertise as psychologists and hypnotherapists to this rich series. Relationships are the foundation of life. The podcast explores the profound role that relationships play— from the earliest bonds of attachment in childhood to the complex relational networks of influence in our culture, communities, politics, technology, and collective life. Through engaging discussions, Eric and David explore meaningful facets of being human and "in relationship." The podcast will feature two new episodes each month. Join us for a journey into the world of the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Transforming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.

  1. Sep 23

    Inside the Therapy Room: Watching Change Unfold with Dr. Mary Jo Peebles

    What does effective psychotherapy actually sound like in the room? In this second conversation with psychologist, psychoanalyst, author, and master clinician Dr. Mary Jo Peebles, we move from talking about psychotherapy to experiencing it in action. Through an extended therapy role play—and the conversation that follows —Mary Jo demonstrates the subtle, moment-to-moment work of psychotherapy: noticing what a person may not yet be able to notice themselves, staying with difficult emotions without rushing to make them disappear, working with shame and self-acceptance, and using the therapeutic relationship to create new possibilities for change. Along the way, we explore why relationship alone isn't enough; the importance of focus, repetition, and awareness; how therapists integrate ideas from different schools of psychotherapy; and the roles of empathy, tension, uncertainty, and the startle response in therapeutic change. Rather than offering a formula for good therapy, this episode gives listeners a rare opportunity to hear the process unfold in real time—and then step back with Mary Jo to understand what happened and why. In this episode: • Why the therapeutic relationship matters—but relationship alone isn't enough • The often-invisible skills of experienced therapists • Role Play: shame, self-acceptance, and the experience of being understood • How therapists synthesize different theoretical approaches • Empathy, tension, uncertainty, and the startle response • Reflections on Mary Jo's upcoming book Whether you're a therapist, a student of psychology, someone who has been in therapy, or simply curious about what happens between therapist and client, this episode offers an unusually close look at psychotherapy from the inside. Subscribe to Transforming Relationships for conversations about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. Join our free Substack for new episodes, reflections, and updates: https://transformingrelationships.substack.com/subscribe

    Inside the Therapy Room: Watching Change Unfold with Dr. Mary Jo Peebles
  2. May 5

    What Creates Change in Psychotherapy? | Dr. Mary Jo Peebles

    What creates real change in psychotherapy? In this episode, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter speak with Dr. Mary Jo Peebles, clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst, about the deeper processes that drive transformation in therapy. Moving beyond technique-driven and manualized approaches, Dr. Peebles explores psychotherapy as a dynamic, relational process—one shaped by uncertainty, mutual influence, and the evolving interaction between therapist and patient. The conversation examines how therapeutic change emerges over time through moments of connection, rupture and repair, and shifts in perception and expectation. It also highlights the importance of "scaffolding" in early treatment, the role of relational safety, and the neurobiological foundations of lasting psychological change. If you'd like episode updates, reflections, and future conversations delivered directly to you, join the email list on Substack: https://transformingrelationships.substack.com/subscribe Topics include: The limits of manualized and protocol-driven therapy Psychotherapy as a relational, emergent process The role of uncertainty and ambiguity in clinical work Rupture, repair, and the development of trust Scaffolding and early therapeutic structure Perception, expectation, and psychological change Neurobiological perspectives on transformation This episode offers a nuanced exploration of psychotherapy for clinicians, students, and anyone interested in how meaningful change unfolds within human relationships. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction to Dr. Mary Jo Peebles 02:54 The Complexity of Psychotherapy 05:54 Trans-Theoretical Approaches in Therapy 08:47 Siloed Practices in Psychology 11:55 The Role of Identity in Therapy 15:07 Understanding Patient Experiences 18:07 Role Play: Navigating Panic Attacks 20:54 Exploring Uniqueness vs. Commonality in Therapy 24:11 Role Play: Attachment and Connection 27:06 The Therapeutic Alliance and Patient Engagement 36:05 The Emergence of Change 39:02 Navigating Emotional Spaces 43:51 Understanding the Therapeutic Process 46:17 The Role of Ambiguity in Therapy 48:09 Scaffolding in Early Sessions 52:51 Duality of Experience in Therapy 55:05 Rupture and Repair in Therapeutic Relationships 01:01:52 The Challenge of Change 01:06:57 Structural Changes for Lasting Impact Follow Dr. David Alter:     General Info: www.drdavidalter.com      For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com       Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:     General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com     Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com

    What Creates Change in Psychotherapy? | Dr. Mary Jo Peebles
  3. Mar 5

    "Mother was a Psychopath: I Became a Psychologist"

    In this episode of Transforming Relationships, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter sit down with Dr. Susanna Carolusson, a psychologist whose career has spanned five decades of work in trauma treatment, hypnosis, and ego state therapy. Drawing on both clinical wisdom and lived experience, Dr. Carolusson reflects on how her own childhood adversity—including growing up with a deeply troubled parent—shaped her lifelong curiosity about the mind and her commitment to helping others heal. The conversation explores ego state therapy and parts work, the role of hypnosis in trauma treatment, and the importance of attunement and emotional safety in the therapeutic relationship. Dr. Carolusson describes how understanding the different "parts" of the self can help clients move toward integration, resilience, and a renewed sense of vitality. Along the way, she offers practical wisdom for therapists and anyone interested in personal growth—from learning to listen to the body's signals to cultivating the kind of curiosity that restores energy, creativity, and connection. Whether you're a clinician, a student of psychology, or someone interested in the process of healing, this episode offers a rare opportunity to learn from a therapist whose work bridges personal transformation and decades of trauma-informed practice. Hosts: Eric Spiegel and David Alter Guest: Susanna Carolusson Watch this and all of our podcast episodes on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@transforming.relationships Topics Covered: Ego state therapy and parts work Hypnosis in trauma treatment Attunement and safety in psychotherapy Curiosity as a therapeutic tool Therapist–client boundaries Resilience and childhood adversity Listening to the body in the healing process Keywords: psychology, trauma therapy, hypnosis, clinical hypnosis, ego state therapy, parts work, trauma healing, attachment, psychotherapy, mental health, therapy techniques, resilience, personal growth, attunement in therapy, trauma treatment Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Transforming Relationships 05:26 The Role of Hypnosis in Trauma Treatment 10:51 Understanding the Parts of the Self 16:11 Curiosity as a Therapeutic Tool 25:39 Navigating Therapist–Patient Boundaries 34:56 The Dandelion Child: Resilience in Adversity 45:19 Listening to the Body: Intuition and Healing   Follow Dr. Susanna Carolusson:     General Info: https://carolussons.se/english.htm Follow Dr. David Alter:    General Info: www.drdavidalter.com    For Couples: www.partnersatcrossroads.com   Follow Dr. Eric Spiegel:    General Info: www.ericspiegelphd.com    Group Practice: www.therapistsinphiladelphia.com    Instagram: www.instagram.com/drericspiegel

    "Mother was a Psychopath: I Became a Psychologist"

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Transforming Relationships is a podcast about how relationships shape our minds, our lives, and the world. The hosts, Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter, bring their decades of expertise as psychologists and hypnotherapists to this rich series. Relationships are the foundation of life. The podcast explores the profound role that relationships play— from the earliest bonds of attachment in childhood to the complex relational networks of influence in our culture, communities, politics, technology, and collective life. Through engaging discussions, Eric and David explore meaningful facets of being human and "in relationship." The podcast will feature two new episodes each month. Join us for a journey into the world of the transformative nature of relationships by tuning into Transforming Relationships, with Dr. Eric Spiegel and Dr. David Alter.