The CEO Sisters' Road Trip

Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman
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Sisters and founders, Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman are on a business road trip. They talk about the ups and downs of business, family, sisterhood, friendship and how to keep going through every mile. Join them as they share, strategize, celebrate, laugh, and sometimes cry, about the joy, challenges, hiccups, and drama that come with this journey.    Liz is a business coach and consultant who loves supporting small business owners as they grow their business to get the freedom and flexibility they want out of it. Sarah is an amazing artist and creator who started her pottery business to bring functional beauty into the homes of others. This show will provide strategic business insights to grow your business, profitably and consistently and will share relatable stories of being mothers, wives, sisters and bad ass business ladies.   They've been through it all together, so why wouldn't they share this CEO journey too?

  1. 4d ago

    EP. 33 - Graduation Overwhelm, Otter Dreams & Beating Burnout

    EP. 33 - Graduation Overwhelm, Otter Dreams & Beating Burnout Summary In this candid episode, sisters Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman get real about the "invisible workload" female entrepreneurs face during major life transitions. From surviving high school graduation season and college prep, to navigating weird dream anxiety (including giant otter attacks!), Liz and Sarah discuss the emotional, mental, and physical weight of wearing multiple hats. They unpack the stark reality of female founder burnout—where 65% of women report active burnout compared to 37% of men—and share actionable strategies on how to give yourself grace, ditch people-pleasing, and protect your energy. Learn how implementing the "One Big Thing" method can transform your productivity without sacrificing your sanity. Key Topics Covered Anxiety & Dream Logic: Why stress shows up in bizarre ways (and what Liz’s giant otter dream says about burnout).The Invisible Workload: Why 83% of female entrepreneurs report high stress and how family transitions bleed into business bandwidth.Making Hard Business Decisions: Sarah shares the relief and power behind stepping back from a major show commitment to prioritize her sanity and family.Overcoming People-Pleasing: Breaking free from the fear of disappointing others when setting business boundaries.The "One Big Thing" Strategy: A game-changing daily process used to overcome multitasking debt and move your business forward.The Power of External Accountability: Hacking your own brain by using peers and community to achieve your goals.Chapters 00:16 – Welcome to CEO Sisters Road Trip01:39 – Weekend Recording & Liz’s Crazy Otter Dream06:40 – Graduation Overwhelm: The Toll of Major Milestones09:15 – Drowning in the "Invisible Workload" & Female Founder Burnout Statistics12:48 – Balancing Family Demands with Growing a Business (Sarah's Story)15:47 – Giving Yourself Grace & Decoupling Guilt from Difficult Decisions20:58 – Overcoming People-Pleasing in Business24:55 – Multitasking Debt: What the Research Says About Middle-Aged Founders28:16 – How to Implement the "One Big Thing" Framework Daily33:39 – Why External Accountability Keeps Us Consistent Mentioned Resources  Ink Volt Paper Dashboard / Digital DashboardThe Gap and The Gain (Dan Sullivan & Dr. Benjamin Hardy)Links Your Business MattersSarah Jane PotteryEntrepreneur Magazine: "Why Some Female Entrepreneurs Flourish While Others Burn Out"Inc. Magazine: "It's Not the Workload That's Burning Women Founders Out. It's the Pressure" Keywords Female Founder Burnout, Invisible Workload, Women Entrepreneurs, CEO Sisters Road Trip, Business Strategy, Overcoming Multitasking Debt, Entrepreneur Work-Life Balance, Small Business Priorities Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  2. Aug 5

    Ep. 32: Scaling Without Breaking: Risk, Culture, and Modern HR with Abby Gates

    Summary Are you running toward your big business goals, or just running away from burnt-out corporate routines? In this episode of CEO Sisters Road Trip, Sarah and Liz chat with Abby Gates, founder of SproutWise and an HR leader with over 20 years of experience navigating four successful startup exits. Abby shares her fascinating journey—from taking a solo backpacking trip through Southeast Asia in her late 20s to quitting a high-level executive corporate job during a season of caregiving to launch her own fractional HR firm. Together, they explore why HR isn’t just a "safety net" or "breakroom fluff," but the living foundation of decision-making, company culture, and sustainable scaling. If you’ve ever felt itchy in your career, struggled with taking big leaps, or wondered how to protect your culture before growth breaks your team, this episode is for you! Key Topics The Solo Backpacking Muscle: How a solo trip through Thailand and Bali built self-reliance and transformed Abby’s relationship with risk.Amplify vs. Create: Recognizing when you are amplifying someone else’s work versus building something meaningful of your own.Caregiving & Career Pivots: Navigating family health crises while negotiating boundaries in corporate leadership.HR as a Growth Engine: Why culture isn’t just snacks and foosball tables, but a non-negotiable decision-making matrix.The Physical Toll of Misalignment: Listening to your body when stress responses demand a career change. Chapters & Timestamps 00:00 – Episode Intro & Catching Up with Sarah & Liz04:01 – Meet Abby Gates of SproutWise06:53 – Solo Backpacking, Southeast Asia, and Building the "Risk Muscle"20:21 – Overcoming Dread: Advice for Taking the Big Leap28:03 – The Turning Point: Caregiving, Corporate Burnout, & Negotiating an Exit38:30 – Amplifying Work vs. Creating Work46:10 – The Physical Cost of Staying Too Long: Lessons in Self-Care46:30 – What Fractional HR Really Does for Growing Startups51:30 – Where to Connect with Abby & Wrap Up Resources & Guest Links Website: http://www.sproutwise.com/Connect with Abby: https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbygates6/Direct Email: abby@sproutwise.com Keywords Startup HR, Fractional HR, Scaling a Business, Risk Tolerance, Company Culture, Caregiving and Entrepreneurship, Solo Travel, Business Mindset, CEO Sisters Road Trip. Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  3. Jul 17

    Episode 31: Designed to Pivot with Kathleen Penny

    Summary  Ever wondered what happens when a seasoned corporate recruiter trades eighty-hour workweeks for a design portfolio she didn't even own yet? In this episode of CEO Sisters Road Trip, Liz and Sarah sit down with Kathleen Penny, the founder of KLP Interiors, to explore her winding entrepreneurial journey. From her early days as an office manager to her bold leap into design school at Moore College of Art and Design, Kathleen’s story is a masterclass in being intentional, inclusive and having the courage to pivot into a whole new world.  Together, the trio dives deep into the high-vibe reality of running a referral-based design business, the emotional toll of being a chronic people-pleaser, how to build a small team based on chemistry, and the real way creative experts can leverage AI as a high-speed "intern" without losing the personal touch. Key Topics The Power of the Pivot: Moving from corporate recruiting to interior design and why careers are circuitous, not linear.The "Expert's 10 Minutes": Why high-level spatial awareness and years of intuitive skill are worth premium pricing, even if the on-site fix only takes ten minutes.The Double-Edged Sword of People-Pleasing: How caring deeply secures a 95% repeat and referral rate while demanding strict boundaries to avoid burnout.Building a Team on Chemistry: The art of hiring in a small business and creating a space where employees grow into new roles naturally.Interior Designer vs. Interior Decorator: Understanding the distinction between space planning/renovations and finishing a space.AI as the Digital Intern: How Kathleen uses AI as a tool to execute her personal, expert prompts instead of letting it dictate design decisions.Action Items & Takeaways Audit Your Experience: Recognize that foundational skills from past "unrelated" jobs (like office management or recruiting) are building blocks for your current CEO journey.Protect Your Boundaries: If you're a people-pleaser, delegate tasks and empower your team to handle operations to preserve your mental energy.Ditch the Portfolio Imposter Syndrome: Enter pitches or interviews with confidence in your soft skills (like active listening and asking deep questions) rather than just perfect paperwork.Chapters 00:16 - Welcome & Martha Stewart: The Ultimate Entrepreneurial Beacon.02:39 - How Sarah and Kathleen Met: Ornament Booths & Custom Herringbone Mugs.04:46 - Spatial Awareness: The "10-Minute Fix" and Pricing Your Worth.07:33 - Kathleen's Origin Story: From an English Degree to Tech Recruiting.10:49 - The Bold Leap: Moore College of Art and Design & The Circuitous Career.16:37 - Gen X, Boundaries, and the Mental Load of People-Pleasing.22:14 - Team Chemistry & Giving Yourself Permission to Delegate.30:37 - Shattering the Glass Ceiling: Women Supporting Women vs. Mean Girl Drama.34:00 - Education Minute: Interior Designer vs. Decorator.35:27 - Leveraging AI: Working with "The Intern" Without Sacrificing Human Chemistry.43:03 - Where to Find KLP Interiors & The Westchester Studio.Resources GenTelligence: Snap Shots and Strategies for Making the Most of Multi-Generational Workforces (Mentioned by Liz).Guest Links Website: KLP InteriorsInstagram: @KLPInteriorsShowroom: Westchester, PA (by appointment or by chance!)Keywords  Interior Design, Women in Business, Career Pivot, Team Building, Client Referrals, Mindset, Gen X, AI in Design, Female Founders, CEO Sisters, Professional Development. Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  4. Jun 8

    Ep. 29 Carrie Norin: From Science to Ceramics

    Summary What happens when a high-achieving evolutionary biologist leaves a prestigious academic career, handles the chaotic logistics of a three-boy household, and unexpectedly finds her true creative voice in raw clay? In this episode of the CEO Sisters Road Trip, sisters Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman sit down with Carrie Norin, the brilliant founder of Matte Porcelain Design—a luxury line of unglazed, matte porcelain wearable art. Carrie takes us on her journey through a profound identity shift, detailing how she traded her "Type A" academic grind for an intentional, family-focused creative lifestyle. Together, they break down the beauty of Wabi-Sabi (the intersection of perfection and imperfection), the subtle guilt women face when shifting gears, and why we need to reclaim the term "lifestyle business" with pride. Carrie also drops invaluable wisdom on running a one-woman show, choosing high-vibe wholesale accounts over grueling craft shows, and leveraging AI to balance the workload. Key Topics The Identity Shift: Transitioning from "Dr. Norin" running an intensive science program to find therapeutic refuge working with raw clay.Reclaiming the "Lifestyle Business": Shaking off the ego-driven narrative of infinite scaling and celebrating a business intentionally designed to prioritize your family and well-being.The Aesthetic of Wabi-Sabi: Embracing organic, imperfect forms while honoring the raw, tactile porcelain material through precision hand-sanding.Intentional Wholesaling Over Consignment: Moving away from direct-to-consumer craft shows and high-stress consignment agreements to form deep, high-buy-in boutique partnerships.Yoga as a Creative Catalyst: Quietening the analytical "Type A" mind on the mat to unlock genuine bursts of personal and professional clarity.The AI "Colleague": How Carrie effectively balances a solo business by treating AI platforms (Claude and ChatGPT) as critical debating partners.Action Items & Takeaways Audit Your Business Ecosystem: Evaluate your current client and retail channels. Don't be afraid to whittle down accounts (just as Carrie dropped from 20 down to 5 vital stores) to protect your peace and energy.Demand Retail Buy-In: Avoid the pitfalls of consignment where vendors have zero skin in the game. Prioritize wholesale partners who are financially invested in your brand story.Train AI to Debate You: Don't settle for a digital "yes-man." When prompting tools like ChatGPT or Claude, intentionally ask them to poke holes in your logic or offer critical counterarguments.Schedule Distraction-Free Mind Time: Step away from the screens and create a meditative boundary (like a yoga practice) to let your subconscious mind work through complex entrepreneurial bottlenecks.Chapters 00:00 – Sisterly Banter: Backyard landscaping, "smoker's laughs," and Liz’s legendary Madonna theater audition.03:31 – Welcoming Carrie Norin and introducing the luxury brand, Matte Porcelain Design.10:46 – The Pandemic Pivot: Deciding to step away from the multi-city commute to anchor into family life.14:20 – Overcoming the "Just a Jewelry Maker" Mindset: Ego, women's liberation, and career guilt.19:08 – Redefining Success: Embracing a lifestyle business that honors the season you are in.22:13 – Discovering the raw, earthy feel of unglazed porcelain and the philosophy of Wabi-Sabi.27:42 – Ruthless Boundaries: Transitioning out of public art shows and shifting strictly to high-end wholesale.35:34 – From Lab Coats to Yoga Mats: Accessing vulnerability and professional breakthroughs on the mat.39:01 – Solo Entrepreneurship: Streamlining operational logistics with the help of AI.42:42 – Supporting Small Businesses: Where to find Matte Porcelain Designs locally and how to stay connected.Resources & Links Mentioned Featured Sponsor: The Canton Cultural Center for the ArtsBooks Reference: Lingo and The Self-Employed Life by Jeffrey ShawGuest Website:https://carrienorin.com/, https://matteporcelaindesign.com/Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/matte.porcelainGuest Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/matte.porcelainStores mentioned: Maison 53 Merzatta Maker and Muse Urban Muse Keywords Female Entrepreneurs, Small Business Scaling, Lifestyle Business, Ceramic Art, Jewelry Design, Pandemic Pivot, Intentional Living, Wabi-Sabi, Business Boundaries, AI for Entrepreneurs, Yoga and Creativity, CEO Sisters. Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  5. May 22

    Ep. 26 - Unlocking Business Growth with AI: Practical Strategies for Small Businesses

    Summary In this episode, Liz and Sarah explore how small businesses can leverage AI to boost efficiency, creativity, and growth. They discuss practical strategies, ethical considerations, and future trends in AI integration, making complex concepts accessible and actionable. Key  topics AI integration strategies for small businessBuilding a digital mind and digital assetsBalancing human touch with AI automationAction  items Start building your digital mind today by gathering your key assets and creating a framework.Practice writing clear prompts to get the best AI outputs.Stay curious and keep learning about AI to stay competitive.Identify tasks that can be automated to free up your time for strategic work.Sound bites "AI isn't just about speed, it's about value" "Your most precious resource is time" "Your business matters, and AI can help you grow" Chapters 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 03:27 The Impact of AI on Business 08:12 AI as a Tool for Efficiency 12:25 Understanding AI's Role in Society 14:52 Keeping Humanity in AI 19:10 The Value of Human Touch in Art 22:25 AI's Role in Business Efficiency 26:20 Boundaries of AI in Customer Interaction 29:36 The Future of Digital Minds in Business 37:18 CEO Sister’s Road Trip Video Outro - 60 seconds v2.mp4  Resources Jeff Woods, The AI Driven Leader - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C7F4XK7XSandy Waggett, MSW Interactive Designs - https://mswinteractivedesigns.comRadio Shack (Tandy 500) - https://www.radioshack.comSpeak and Spell - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speak_%26_SpellKeywords AI in business, small business growth, automation, digital transformation, AI strategies, efficiency, digital mind, future of AI, entrepreneurship, technology trends Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  6. May 11

    Ep. 24 - The IDGA...S%&* Advantage of Starting a Business After 40

    Summary In this episode, sisters Liz and Sarah explore the empowering reasons why launching or restarting a business after 40+ can be a game-changing move, fueled by confidence, life experience, and authenticity. They share personal insights, challenges, and practical advice for women embracing their second act with boldness and purpose. Key Topics: The shift in mindset from career start to second act: less fear, more authenticityThe advantages of age and life experience in entrepreneurship and leadershipThe importance of saying no: setting boundaries to protect your time and energyLessons from decades of experience that streamline decision-makingEmbracing seasons in business and life: when to pause, pivot, or press playBreaking the myth that entrepreneurship is only for the youngThe power of transparency and vulnerability with technology and team membersPractical strategies for thriving as a late starter, including leveraging confidence and avoiding burnoutChapters: 00:00 Nostalgia and Sassy Magazine 05:58 Life Skills and Confidence in Entrepreneurship 09:22 Transitioning Careers After 40 13:19 Selling Transformation vs. Services 21:15 The Power of Saying No 26:52 Embracing Technology and Transparency 31:54 Caring Less About Others' Opinions 35:15 CEO Sister’s Road Trip Video Outro  Resources: The Transformation Economy by Joe Pine Your Business Matters Sarah Jane Pottery To hear more stories of women over 40 transforming their lives, subscribe to the CEO Sisters Podcast and join our community of confident, experienced entrepreneurs embracing their second act! Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  7. Apr 25

    Ep. 25 - Financial Facts or Feelings? - Road Snack Episode

    Financial Facts or Feelings? How to Use Data to Overcome Overwhelm and Drive Decisions In this solo episode, Liz Szporn of CEO Sisters Road Trip shares a simple but powerful approach to gaining instant clarity on your financial health. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed or unsure about your business’s numbers, learn how to cut through the noise with just a few key data points to make confident decisions. Key Topics: The common "ostrich effect"—avoiding financial data and its impact on decision-makingHow to identify what financial data truly matters during times of overwhelmThe story of a client with a perceived 20% revenue drop that was actually a 5% increaseThe three KPIs to focus on for quick financial clarity: top line income, expenses, and net incomeThe power of looking at year-over-year comparisons for meaningful insightsUsing curiosity and a "what if up" mindset to reframe perceived negativesPractical steps: pulling and comparing financial statements from the past quarter and last yearHow to categorize expenses into necessary, nice-to-have, and negotiableActionable tips for renegotiating vendor contracts and cutting unnecessary costsThe importance of trust, curiosity, and data in business decision-makingResources & Links: Instant Clarity WorksheetConnect with Liz Szporn: LinkedInwww.yourbusinessmatters.devRemember, small steps with data can lead to big clarity. Don't let overwhelm hold you back—your business's health is worth regular check-ins!  Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

  8. Apr 13

    Ep. 23 - Stop Over-Explaining and Start Leading: Communication Science with Jen Nonn-Murphy

    Summary Have you ever walked away from a high-stakes meeting or a sales call realizing you spent the entire time speaking in circles? In this episode, Liz and Sarah sit down with Jen Nonn-Murphy, a licensed speech-language pathologist and CEO coach who specializes in the brain science of communication.  Jen explains why smart, capable women often fall into the "over-explaining trap" and how cognitive overload—juggling value propositions alongside everyday mental loads like family schedules—can lead to rambling and lost confidence. Jen shares actionable, science-backed formulas to help leaders find their "grit," stop apologizing for their success, and start leading with clarity. Key Topics The Pathology of Over-Explaining: Understanding why our brains hit "working memory" limits during high-pressure conversations.The "What, Why, Next" Framework: A repeatable 3-step formula to organize thoughts in real-time.The Power of the Pause: Why a 2–3 second silence is your most assertive leadership tool.The Goldilocks Dilemma: Navigating the fine line between being seen as "too soft" (a supporter) and "too aggressive" (not collaborative).Creating Supportive Cultures: Lessons from Silicon Valley on supporting other women’s voices and having tough, "clear is kind" conversations.Action Items & Takeaways Practice with Frameworks: Use "What, Why, Next" to structure your business pitch or service descriptions to avoid circular talking.Anchor Your Practice: Link your communication practice to daily habits, like brushing your teeth or your morning commute, to build muscle memory.Utilize the "Power Pause": Give your brain space to process a question before jumping in to avoid "railroading" the conversation.Audit Your Tone: Strip away qualifiers like "I was thinking maybe" and replace them with decisive language paired with a collaborative tone.AI as a Thought Partner: Use AI to help draft communication frameworks, but ensure you maintain your human connection and authenticity.Chapters [00:18] Sisterhood & Spring: College updates and life "life-ing".[02:38] The Over-Explaining Trap: Why we struggle to own our value.[10:06] Meet Jen Nonn-Murphy: From pediatric speech therapy to CEO coaching.[13:10] Brain Science: Working memory and cognitive overload in sales.[17:36] Tool #1: The "What, Why, Next" Framework (Live Practice).[22:42] AI in Communication: Using technology as a thought partner.[27:26] Tool #2: Pause, Then Speak.[31:41] The Goldilocks Dilemma: Assertive vs. Aggressive communication.[36:06] Supporting Women: A story on salary negotiation and first offers.[42:27] Shifting from Selling to Guiding: Advice for creative entrepreneurs.[45:11] The Gritty Journey: Lonesome Dove and prioritizing the "One Thing".Guest Links Website: CCSpeechCoach.com (Take the Communication Self-Rating Scale!).Instagram: @clear_confident_coach.LinkedIn: Jen Nonn-Murphy.Keywords Communication Science, Female Entrepreneurs, Leadership Coaching, Speech Pathology, Cognitive Overload, Creative CEO, Sales Conversations, Women in Business, Assertive Communication, CEO Sisters Road Trip. Want to learn more about what working with Liz looks like?  Head to Your Business Matters to schedule a Discovery call with her

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Sisters and founders, Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman are on a business road trip. They talk about the ups and downs of business, family, sisterhood, friendship and how to keep going through every mile. Join them as they share, strategize, celebrate, laugh, and sometimes cry, about the joy, challenges, hiccups, and drama that come with this journey.    Liz is a business coach and consultant who loves supporting small business owners as they grow their business to get the freedom and flexibility they want out of it. Sarah is an amazing artist and creator who started her pottery business to bring functional beauty into the homes of others. This show will provide strategic business insights to grow your business, profitably and consistently and will share relatable stories of being mothers, wives, sisters and bad ass business ladies.   They've been through it all together, so why wouldn't they share this CEO journey too?

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  • Creator
    Liz Szporn and Sarah Trueman
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    27
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    Clean
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    © 2026 The CEO Sisters' Road Trip
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