The World Builders

Jenni Gritters & Lindsay MacMillan
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The World Builders Podcast is a conversation hosted by best friends Jenni Gritters and Lindsay MacMillan—both creatives, entrepreneurs and former corporate climbers. Together, they explore intuitive living, career reinvention, and creative expression for the new paradigm, tackling topics like manifesting your dreams, debunking the starving artist myth, choosing vocation over job, and channeling higher consciousness. Each episode blends candid interviews, listener Q&As, and soulful conversation to help ambitious, curious humans build lives of purpose, aliveness, and creative freedom.

  1. 4d ago

    The financial chicken and egg, and why you might be asking the wrong question

    "I need money to sign up for support, but I need support to make the money." Sound familiar? In this solo episode, Jenni unpacks the financial chicken-and-egg trap that shows up every time we're on the edge of a big investment — and why the real issue was never actually about the money. She breaks down why so many of us live chronically under-resourced (not enough support, not enough rest, not enough money) and how that pattern usually traces back to being the ones who've "had it all together" since childhood. Jenni gets personal about her own journey with investing in coaching, the codependent roots of "doing it all," and how trying to carry other people up the mountain (whether a partner, a client, or your business) is often less about love and more about control. Through real client stories — a burnt-out entrepreneur afraid that raising her prices would steal her from her kids, and a client whose storage unit became the first domino in unraveling years of financial avoidance — she shows how small, intentional actions can rewire deeply held beliefs about safety, worth, and resourcing. By the end, Jenni reframes the whole conversation: the chicken-and-egg question isn't really about sequencing. It's about a pattern of "I don't have enough, so I'll wait." And the invitation is to stop waiting — to get resourced, get brave, and build the kind of financial foundation that lets you take creative risks without losing stability. This is the final episode of Season 3. Thank you for walking this season with us! If you're curious about joining The Earth Council, please reach out to hello@theworldbuilders.co by end of day on Tuesday October 27th. Council details live here: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-council

  2. Oct 22

    Soul-led ambition vs ambition that comes from wounding

    What if the thing driving your biggest dreams is also the thing burning you out? In this episode, Jenni and Lindsay get honest about the tangled relationship between ambition, expectations, and self-worth — and how to tell the difference between the kind of drive that's healthy and the kind that's quietly running on empty. They start by untangling two words we often use interchangeably: expectations and standards. Lindsay shares the "low expectations, high standards" line from her novel The Heart of the Deal, and the two explore how high standards can fuel excellence, while rigid expectations — especially the ones tied to "should" and "supposed to" — can become toxic, even debilitating. From there, the conversation goes deeper into the real question: how do you know if your ambition is soul-led, or if it's coming from wounding? Jenny opens up about the "scrappy, grabby" voice that chases money and followers as proof of worthiness, versus the quieter, slower, more intuitive voice that actually leads somewhere sustainable. Lindsay reflects on writing five unpublished books before breaking through, and how ego — in the right dose — can be sacred rather than shameful. They also talk candidly about: Anthony Bourdain's "I don't know what I'm running from, but I'm running" and what that trauma-driven hustle really costsWhat happens when your old motivators (money, followers, external validation) stop working — and what replaces themWhy soul-led ambition often feels less flashy, less urgent, and less dopamine-driven than wounded ambition, and why that can feel like a lossNavigating relationships (marriage, friendships, business) when your ambition is "too big" for some people, and why that's a respect issue, not a flawHow to hold big dreams and high capacity without needing the outcome to prove you're enoughThis episode is for anyone who's ever been told their expectations are "too high," anyone recalibrating their relationship to success, and anyone learning to build from wholeness instead of lack. Resources: Join us in The Collective, a training ground for creative aliveness: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-collectiveTalk to Jenni about joining the Earth Council: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-councilDownload the World Builders' Business Planning Workbook: https://world-builders.kit.com/products/world-builders-business-planning-workbook

  3. Oct 20

    When "being of service" is actually a form of procrastination | a solo riff with Lindsay

    Is your drive to help others actually ambition in disguise — or is it a hiding spot? In this episode, Lindsay gets real about a pattern she sees constantly in business owners, coaches, writers, and creatives: using "being of service" as a sophisticated form of procrastination on your own calling. She shares a personal story from teaching inside the World Builders Collective, where she caught herself using a visibility challenge as a way to stay in launch-and-marketing mode instead of stepping into her own next level of visibility — a subtle but telling sign of ambition pointed outward instead of inward. In this conversation, you'll learn: The difference between genuinely being in service and hiding behind "helping" as an excuseWhy putting client work first can look like good business ownership while actually blocking your own growthThe false binary between "all client work" and "all my own creative projects" — and the boundaried middle path that actually worksHow to spot the real root cause when you blame lack of time for not writing the book, building the brand, or sharing your voiceWhy raising your own vibration and expressing your voice is what makes you more valuable to the people you serve — not lessThis isn't about choosing between ambition and generosity. It's about recognizing when "helping" has quietly become a martyr story, and reclaiming the nerve to make your own voice, your own work, and your own calling the main character — not just a footnote to everyone else's. Resources: World Builders Collective – The membership community where Lindsay and Jenni teach: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/Lindsay's LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lkmacmillan/Join us for the next free World Builders' gathering, The Clearing: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-clearing

  4. Oct 15

    The guru era in coaching is dead | with Dr. Alaina Puff

    Learn more about joining The Council with Jenni & Alaina: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-council The coaching industry is having its reckoning — and it's about time. In this episode, Jenni sits down with psychologist-turned-intuitive business coach Alaina Puff to unpack why the old guru model (pay me $25K, copy my blueprint, become me) is collapsing in real time — including the viral story of a conference that charged women $25,000 to speak on stage, ran hours behind schedule, and is now facing refund demands and lawyers. Alaina and Jenni get into: Why "do no harm" should be the foundation of every coaching relationship — not just therapyThe hidden codependency that forms when clients attach their worth to a coach instead of themselvesWhy chasing revenue goals without addressing nervous system and root-cause work almost always backfiresThe shift from hierarchy to leadership — walking beside clients instead of standing above themWhy healing is moving from one-on-one to group containers, and what makes a container actually safeHow to trust your own "full body no" instead of overriding your discernment for someone with more perceived authorityThis is a conversation about integrity — what it actually means to hold space for someone's transformation without positioning yourself as the one who delivers it. If you've ever felt unsatisfied after investing in a coach, or you're a coach wondering what responsible leadership looks like, this episode is your permission slip to trust yourself first. Resources: The World Builders Collective: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-collectiveThe Earth Council sign ups: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-councilBook a call with Jenni to talk about The Earth Council: https://calendly.com/theworldbuilders/free-power-chat?month=2026-07&date=2026-07-09Follow Alaina on Instagram and LinkedInCheck out Alaina's new nervous system program: https://www.flowstatecc.com/thebridge

  5. Oct 13

    Our grandmothers stayed silent to survive. Now we're getting loud.

    What does it mean to be the first woman in your family to make money from your creativity? In this episode, Lindsay and Jenni unpack lineage — the invisible inheritance of beliefs, roles, and nervous system patterns passed down through generations — and why breaking from them can feel terrifying even when you know it's the right move. They get personal, tracing their own family lines: immigrant grandparents who built stability from nothing, mothers who negotiated flexibility before it was normal, and the quiet (or not-so-quiet) pressure to not "rock the boat." Jenny walks through a real-time case study on money, visibility, and ancestral permission, while Lindsay shares how her own lineage of homemakers shaped — and is now being rewritten by — her refusal to choose between motherhood and ambition. You'll learn: Why visibility, money, roles, and relationships are the four places lineage shows up strongestHow to tell the difference between your fear and your ancestors' fearPractical ways to honor, edit, and release inherited patterns — without disrespecting where you came fromWhy "microdosing" growth builds real nervous system evidence that change is safeOur grandmothers stayed silent to survive. We're getting loud to survive. This episode is your permission slip to keep going. Resources: The Earth Council — Join Jenni's newest cohort of The Council program opening the week of Halloween, focused on roots, anchors, and uncovering lineage work within a highly curated group: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-councilWorld Builders Collective is a gathering space and village for creatives going first. Learn more here: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-collectiveJoin us for a free World Builders ceremony: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-clearing

  6. Oct 8

    How to deal when people don't understand your work

    This solo episode with Jenni answers a community member's question: how do you handle it when people don't understand what you're doing — especially when you're pivoting from practical, rational work into your soul's work? Jenni shares her own journey of shutting down her traditional coaching business (22 one-on-one clients, a group program) to launch World Builders, and the identity rollercoaster that followed. She shares four core truths: The soul's path takes time to acclimate to. Moving from rational, "makes sense to everyone" work into soul-led work isn't instant — expect a pendulum swing between overly esoteric and overly rational framing before you find center. Jenny describes swinging from pure "lore and poems" into business-model language and back again before landing somewhere in between.Your frequency is changing — and so, thus, is your audience. As your energy/vibration shifts, the people who resonated with your old work may stop resonating, while new people start showing up. Jenny's email list lost 60 subscribers one month and gained 60 new ones — same size, but a full turnover of who's actually aligned. The loss is painful but necessary; it's not rejection, it's recalibration.Honor the version of you that "can't come to the phone" anymore. The old identity (the one who needed to be liked, understood, and safe by fitting into a box) has to be let off duty — not erased, just retired with gratitude. Trying to keep operating as that old self in the new work creates dread and resentment.Being misunderstood is an invitation to heal in real time. The discomfort of someone not "getting" your work flares up old people-pleasing and over-explaining patterns. Choosing the brave, honest description of your work (instead of the easy, palatable one) is the actual growth work — and not being liked by everyone is reframed as freedom, not failure.The throughline: you're not responsible for being understood by everyone — only by the people who are in resonance with your current frequency. The rest is allowed to leave. Resources: Florence GivenChelsea DianeThe World Builders Collective– community space with workshops, open mics, and Builders Lab sessions (join now to access a two week free trial!)The Clearing – a free three-part money ceremony series happening Fridays in OctoberThe World Builders Councils – six-month cohort programs where do the work of helping you step into your fullest expression and power (applications now open for the Earth cohort, which starts end of October)

  7. Oct 6

    The great career awakening no one warned us about

    Jenni and Lindsay dig into the quiet career crisis so many of us are feeling right now — the sense of disillusionment, burnout, and "what the hell am I doing" energy showing up across careers everywhere. They trace their own breakdowns, from bathroom-stall meditation sessions at Goldman Sachs to the moment Jenni realized she didn't want her boss's job, and unpack why this isn't a personal failure but a generational shift in our relationship to work. They also consider that this might be more of an awakening than a breakdown, one that asks us to get curious first instead of immediately overhauling our entire lives. By the end, you'll feel less alone in your doubt and have real, practical ways to start listening to what your body and spark are already telling you. What We Cover: The "six-to-eight month cliff" — why new jobs feel exciting at first, then suddenly don'tMasking at work and the cost of hiding your true self to stay "safe"Jenni's moment of clarity: looking at her boss and realizing "I don't want her job"Lindsay's story of losing a friend to suicide and how it shifted her relationship to ambition and corporate lifeWhy this career disillusionment is generational, not personal — and the Maslow's hierarchy lens on why it's happening nowThe difference between liberation and empowerment over generationsWhy quitting dramatically isn't always the answer; the case for "mini pivots" and decentering your job as your identityHow to use curiosity (not a five-year plan) as your compass right nowLetting go of the idea that there's one "dream job" or destination that will finally make you feel okayWhy talking about this out loud, with other people, is the fastest way out of the spiralResources: Join The World Builders Collective — community and conversation for creatives navigating this exact shiftSign up for The Clearing, a 3-part money series (free) hosted by Jenni in October, which will ask you to get curious about how you make financial and career decisions

  8. Oct 1

    Audience question: How do I prioritize my creative work over my practical work?

    This week, Jenni and Lindsay answer an audience question they've received three times over: How do you prioritize creative work when "practical" work is demanding your time and energy? They break down why this is actually a false binary: creativity isn't separate from your business or career, it's the engine behind both. From writing books during nap times to drafting a novel in a single month, they share real, unpolished stories of how creative work has fit (imperfectly) into full lives, corporate jobs, and motherhood, and why nonlinear payoff doesn't mean it isn't worth prioritizing. They also get tactical by covering how to structure sacred creative time even with 45 minutes twice a week, how to identify whether you're in ideation, expression, or output mode, and why accountability, containers, and letting the first draft be "really bad" are essential parts of a sustainable creative practice. This episode is a permission slip to stop treating your creativity as a side project and start recognizing it as core to your life force, your business growth, and your ability to show up as your fullest self. Why creativity and "practical" work aren't actually oppositesHow to build sacred creative time into a packed schedule (even 45–90 min blocks)Identifying which creative phase you're in: ideation, expression, or outputWhy creative work often pays off nonlinearly — and why that's the pointUsing accountability and containers to stay consistent with creative projectsLetting go of perfectionism to protect your creative momentumHow creativity fuels productivity, promotions, and business growthManaging creative guilt and procrastination as a business owner or parentGetting family or partners on board to protect your creative timeWhy creative expression is essential to mental, emotional, and spiritual healthResources: Jenni's book, The Sustainable Solopreneur (check out the chapter on creativity)The World Builders Collective is now open: https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-collectiveSign up for our October money ceremonies here (free!): https://www.theworldbuilders.co/the-clearingFollow Lindsay on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lkmacmillan/Follow Jenni on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenni-gritters-a4837329/

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The World Builders Podcast is a conversation hosted by best friends Jenni Gritters and Lindsay MacMillan—both creatives, entrepreneurs and former corporate climbers. Together, they explore intuitive living, career reinvention, and creative expression for the new paradigm, tackling topics like manifesting your dreams, debunking the starving artist myth, choosing vocation over job, and channeling higher consciousness. Each episode blends candid interviews, listener Q&As, and soulful conversation to help ambitious, curious humans build lives of purpose, aliveness, and creative freedom.

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  • Creator
    Jenni Gritters & Lindsay MacMillan
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    49
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2026 Jenni Gritters & Lindsay MacMillan
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