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Natural Genius

Natural Genius is a podcast of thoughtful conversations with people shaping meaningful lives, useful work and uncommon paths.Hosted by Sam Bell, the show listens for the hidden clever in each guest: the instinct, inner knowing, craft, courage and lived wisdom that shape how they build, lead, create, care and contribute.Guests include founders, operators, makers, artists, elders, wisdom holders and people whose lives carry practical insight.The conversations trace what becomes possible through close listening, trusted instinct, and a life organised around what matters.Listen for the thread. Notice what feels true. Take what’s useful into your own life and work.More at naturalgenius.com.au

  1. #42 - Alistair Leaper: Calm Practical Intelligence at Sea

    14H AGO

    #42 - Alistair Leaper: Calm Practical Intelligence at Sea

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with long-time friend Alistair Leaper about sailing, seamanship, trust, calm judgement, and the practical intelligence needed to keep boats and crews moving through changing conditions. Alistair has spent much of his life around boats, engines, crews, long-haul sailing and ocean racing, including many Sydney to Hobart races. Now based in Mallorca, he works in the world of large yachts, where preparation, adaptability, mechanical understanding, crew dynamics and first-principles thinking all matter. This is a conversation about the intelligence that shows up at sea: reading people quickly, staying calm under pressure, adapting to the environment, fixing what can be fixed, and knowing when to ask. This episode explores: • What sailing gives Alistair, from bay racing to ocean crossings • Heavy weather sailing, challenge, and staying calm when conditions change • Trust, responsibility, and quick judgement within a crew • Leadership that does not need a title • Conflict resolution, perspective-taking, and moving through tension • Finding parts, solving problems, and using networks at sea • Old-school mechanical grounding in a highly technological world • Repair culture, practical skill, and why “there’s no such thing as a silly question” Guest links: • Alistair Leaper: https://www.facebook.com/alistair.leaper Chapters: 00:02 Sam introduces Alistair Leaper 01:45 What sailing gives Alistair 03:13 Heavy weather, trust, and judgement at sea 05:55 Calm leadership without needing the title 08:52 Seeing both sides and resolving tension 15:05 Planning, sourcing, and adapting offshore 16:30 Technology, paper manuals, and first principles 18:47 Repair culture and making things work 20:45 “If you don’t know, ask” 21:25 Sam’s reflection and thanks Explore further: Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Peregian Beach and Mallorca, 15 February, 2026 Produced at the Peregian Beach, Sunshine Motorway, Violet Town and Kiama offices, 15 February - 9 May, 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    23 min
  2. #41 - Christopher Treble: Gather with People Who Notice the Richness of Life

    2D AGO

    #41 - Christopher Treble: Gather with People Who Notice the Richness of Life

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Christopher Treble about the richness of long conversations, the generosity of curious communities, and what it means to keep reinventing throughout life. Chris reflects on Network School breakfasts, a poetry session that opened unexpected depth, business timing, mentoring young people, chief of staff roles, hiking, travel, and food. This is a conversation about staying open, gathering with people trying to do good, and noticing what becomes possible when we arrive without too much fixed intention. This episode explores: • Network School as an antidote to bad news • Breakfast conversations, poetry, first languages, and unexpected vulnerability • Reinvention, curiosity, and refreshing the “pot-bound” parts of life • Mentoring, business timing, and helping ideas find their moment • Chief of staff / operator-partner roles, stakeholder patience, and moving ideas through organisations • Hiking, wild places, India, France, Bistro Livi, and gastronomic stories Guest bio: Christopher Treble is Principal at Fiducial Equities L.L.C. He has built a long career across business, real estate, investment and contribution in California, and brings the perspective of a grandfather, traveller, reader, and lifelong learner originally from the UK. Guest links: • Chris Treble: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-treble-59590116/ Chris' suggestions for you: • CEO Express "lists everything for business so makes a great dashboard": https://www.ceoexpress.com/ • "John Cochrane is an economist who makes sense": https://www.grumpy-economist.com/ • "Apollo is a fantastic Art Magazine": https://www.apollo-magazine.com/ • "Louise  is really knowledgeable about [India] the country which she loves... the Wellness tab that has a plethora of places to go": https://www.louisenicholsonindia.com/ • "King of Kings" by Scott Anderson • "The Black Family in Slavery and Freedom 1750-1925" by Herbert Gutman • "The Night Manager" by John le Carré • "1929" by Andrew Ross Sorkin • "Breakneck" by Dan Wang Conversation mentions: • Network School: https://ns.com/samanthaleebell/invite • Ivan Maltsev: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ivanxmaltsev/ • Corinne Proske's Natural Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kQg33UU62I • VNTR Capital: https://www.instagram.com/vntrcapital • Adam Tomas Pangelinan's Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/obwbhba3Y_g • Bistro Livi: https://www.bistrolivi.com/ • Learn about the Chief of Staff role: https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/chief-of-staff-anatomy-of-the-role-in-eight-charts Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and Chris intro 01:10 Network School breakfasts and big-hearted people 05:05 The poetry session and speaking in first languages 08:02 Curiosity, reinvention, VNTR and new contribution 11:48 The seven-year reinvention idea 15:14 Hiking, ageing, statistics and wild places 18:20 Mentoring, business, being yourself and timing 22:18 Chief of staff roles and helping ideas land 29:15 Food, travel, India, France and Bistro Livi Explore further: Explore Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Violet Town and California, 24 February, 2026 Produced at the Violet Town and Kiama offices, 24 February - 8 May, 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    36 min
  3. #40 - Allie Armitage: Body Wisdom, Trust and Embodied Leadership

    3D AGO

    #40 - Allie Armitage: Body Wisdom, Trust and Embodied Leadership

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with coach, facilitator and somatics practitioner Allie Armitage about body wisdom, creative practice, ancestry and embodied leadership. Allie shares how learning to listen to the body changed the way she relates to decision-making, creativity and trust. Together, Sam and Allie explore somatics as a way of accessing felt intelligence, practising differently, and noticing when something is alive, complete or being overworked. This is a spacious conversation about practice, nervous system awareness, lineage, nature, music, imagination and the kind of leadership that begins with deeper listening. This episode explores: • Somatics, felt sense and the intelligence of the body • Small practices as anchors in chaotic times • Trusting body signals alongside rational thinking • Ancestry, lineage and the stories held in the body • Horses, nature and energetic communication • Morning Pages, creative practice and returning to flow • Refining work without overworking it • Embodied leadership, conscious entrepreneurship and soul presence in business Guest bio: Allie Armitage is a coach, writer, facilitator and somatics practitioner. She draws from systems thinking, conscious entrepreneurship, somatics, creative practice and mysticism, weaving these with mindfulness and imagination to help people embody their aliveness, vision and innate worth. Guest links: • Allie Armitage: https://www.theembodiedvisionary.com • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alliearmitage • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/allie.armitage • Allie’s writing, creating and upcoming events: https://allisonarmitage.substack.com/ Conversation references: • Christian Duell's Natural Genius: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1GdoioUsgMWdFLDOb5Motl • Bomba Estéreo - Astropical: https://open.spotify.com/album/21U3vjlzUXb642LW0Ventl • Reyna Tropical: https://open.spotify.com/artist/7i6bx5ASeX99tjQYqahDXL • My Grandmother’s Hands by Resmaa Menakem: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34146782-my-grandmother-s-hands • SAND documentary: https://scienceandnonduality.com/films/in-the-circle-of-life/ • Morning Pages / Julia Cameron’s The Artist’s Way: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/615570.The_Artist_s_Way • Conscious Venture Labs in Baltimore: https://novellacenter.org/ Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and Christian’s introduction thread 01:29 Practice as an anchor in chaotic times 04:22 What somatics means 05:25 Learning to trust the body’s signals 12:03 Reaching the edge of familiar tools 13:50 Ancestry, lineage and embodied stories 24:31 Imagination, horses and embodied communication 32:36 Nature, Morning Pages and creative practice 35:24 Music, aliveness and creative expression 37:38 Refining, overworking and noticing what is alive 40:57 Closing reflections and future threads Explore further: Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Baltimore, 22 April 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 22 April - 7 May 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    42 min
  4. #39 - Adriana Basile: Returning to Yourself with Lived Wisdom

    6D AGO

    #39 - Adriana Basile: Returning to Yourself with Lived Wisdom

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Adriana Basile about healing, relationships, self-trust and coming back into the body. Adriana’s gift is lived wisdom. She has done the work she now helps others do: returning to herself, building stronger relationships, and creating a life with more love, ease, awareness and embodied truth. She brings empathy, awareness and practical tools because she has walked through her own healing and continues to practise what she shares. This is a conversation about holding space, healing after divorce, creating safer relationships, easing burnout, and learning to live and lead from a more grounded place. This episode explores: • Beauty therapy, business and the early art of holding space • Divorce, healing and learning to have a relationship with yourself • How couples can reconnect through everyday micro moments • Love, gratitude and the daily practices that create ease • Women’s circles, storytelling and the power of being witnessed • Masculine and feminine energy, relationships and safer spaces for men and women • Burnout, nervous system regulation and coming back into the body Guest bio: Adriana Basile is the founder of Evolve. She is a holistic healing coach, relationship and intimacy coach, somatic practitioner, women’s circle facilitator and circle facilitation educator / mentor. Through coaching, somatic bodywork, energy healing, sound healing, restorative yoga / massage, nervous system support, intimacy practices and parts work, Adriana supports people to move out of survival patterns and back into connection, clarity and choice. Guest links: • Adriana Basile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrianadbasile/ • Evolve: https://www.evolveadrianabasile.com.au • Evolve Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evolve.adrianabasile • LUX Retreats: https://www.instagram.com/lux.retreats.aus Conversation reference: • Louise Hay: https://www.louisehay.com/ Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Adriana 00:52 Beauty therapy, business and learning to hold space 06:50 Divorce, healing and finding a relationship with herself 10:57 Helping couples reconnect through micro moments 14:14 Love, ease and gratitude as daily practice 22:07 Family, strength and women’s circles 27:02 Men, relationships and masculine / feminine energy 31:04 Burnout, softening and coming back into the body Explore further: Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Benalla, 25 April, 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 25 April - 4 May, 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    36 min
  5. #38 - Joanne Merrick: Impact Is Everything

    MAY 3

    #38 - Joanne Merrick: Impact Is Everything

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Joanne Merrick about management, leadership, music, friendship, grief, and the impact we have on people. Joanne is an architect of leadership transformation, author, neuroscience-informed talent strategist, and leadership development expert with 20+ years’ global experience across 5 continents and 22 countries. Her career includes leadership, learning and organisational development roles across Deloitte Consulting, Juniper Networks, Amazon Devices, Omnicell, 6sense, The Leadership Recipe and Island Health. This conversation centres on a powerful idea: impact is everything. Joanne shares why becoming a manager should be a conscious choice, not simply the next automatic career step. Management is not just “a new level in a game”. It is “a completely new game”, because managers and leaders have a profound opportunity to impact people’s lives in positive or negative ways. Sam and Joanne also speak about bringing music into leadership development, living and working across cultures, the gift of long friendships, learning through grief, and why the impact we have on people becomes part of the legacy we leave. Content note: this conversation includes brief reflections on grief and loss. This episode explores: • why management should be a conscious choice • the difference between intention and impact • how managers and leaders affect people’s lives • bringing music, memory and personality into facilitation • living and working across Australia, Hong Kong and the United States • grief, appreciation and the legacy people leave • Joanne’s book, Game On! Is Management Your Best Career Play? Guest links: Joanne Merrick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joanne-merrick/ The Leadership Recipe: https://www.theleadershiprecipe.com/ Joanne’s book: https://a.co/d/09pHXMMz Conversation references: Sander Dales: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sanderfhdales/ Young Talent Time: https://www.youngtalenttime.tv/ Chapters: 00:02 Introduction to Joanne Merrick 02:02 Deciding whether management is right for you 08:40 Bringing music into leadership development 15:56 Intention, impact, legacy and Sander Dales 29:58 Living and working across cultures 42:40 Grief, appreciation and the legacy people leave Explore further: Listen to Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Anacortes, USA, 26 April 2026. Produced at the Kiama office, 26 April - 3 May 2026. Natural Genius Podcast: https://naturalgenius.com.au

    56 min
  6. #37 - Ben Rennie: Technology, Adventure, and Designing for Connection

    APR 27

    #37 - Ben Rennie: Technology, Adventure, and Designing for Connection

    What happens when technology makes life easier, and also starts to take something from us? In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with designer, author and creativity activist Ben Rennie about technology, agency, adventure, family, systemic design and creating with technology. Ben reflects on writing Be Kind, Rewind, leaving his phone behind, raising children through adventure and snow sports, building an independent creative studio, and why design needs to look beyond the immediate brief. This is a conversation about values, connection, creativity, and designing for the lives and communities we want to shape. This episode explores • Technology, agency and potential boundaries for digital tools  • AI, writing, critical thinking and trusting your own voice  • Adventure, family, skiing and building a life close to nature  • The pressure and possibility of growing a founder-led design business  • Systemic design, human-centred design and seven-generational thinking  • Values, connection, climate, community and designing for what comes next Guest bio Ben Rennie is a designer, author, speaker and creativity activist working across design, climate, sport and community. He leads Rennie Lab, chairs Design Declares Australia, and is the author of Lessons in Creativity. After 20 years building and leading Reny Studio, Ben’s work now explores systemic design, creativity, technology, and how we reshape the ways people live, connect and build. Guest links • Ben Rennie: https://benrennie.com/ and https://www.linkedin.com/in/benrennie/ • Reny Studio: https://reny.studio/services/ • Ben's book: Lessons in Creativity: https://benrennie.com/pages/lessonsincreativity • Ben’s writing: https://substack.com/@benrennie/posts • Dear Luke & Ben podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/dear-luke-ben/id1598107677 Conversation references • Miff Rennie: https://www.instagram.com/miffrennie/ • Zach Bush: https://www.instagram.com/zachbushmd/ • IDEO: https://www.ideo.com/ • frog: https://www.frog.co/ • Christian Duell’s Natural Genius episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1GdoioUsgMWdFLDOb5Motl Chapters 01:33 Leaving the phone behind and Be Kind, Rewind 07:09 Boundaries, AI and agency 12:31 Adventure, writing and the last 10% 21:29 Systemic design, wayfinding, connection and seven-generational thinking 30:00 Snow, family and rebuilding life around nature 40:43 Values, separation and how we show up Explore further Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. About Natural Genius Through conversations with leaders, thinkers, builders and practitioners across many fields, the podcast explores the signals that guide meaningful work and the choices that shape a life. Credits Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Sydney and Kiama, 14 April, 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 14 - 28 April, 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    54 min
  7. #36 - Aprill Enright: Art, Creative Reinvention, and Personal Rebranding

    APR 26

    #36 - Aprill Enright: Art, Creative Reinvention, and Personal Rebranding

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Aprill Enright about moving through a sometimes murky transition from co-founder and operator to artist, creative partner, and a clearer new chapter. Drawing on work across technology, customer operations, Knowledge Bird, startup investing, Tractor Ventures, and visual arts, Aprill shares how she has been reconnecting with art, rethinking what her skills are actually for, and bringing systems thinking and creative instinct back into one integrated identity. They talk about personal rebranding, human design, career coaching, AI, art, and the practical value of many coffees when the future is still forming.  This episode explores: • Growing up in a creative family and choosing science over art at school • Building a career across technology, customer operations, knowledge management, and startup leadership • Co-founding Tractor Ventures and the toll of extended ambiguity • Career coaching, human design, and personal rebranding as tools for clarity • Using AI to think more deeply, articulate intent, and support creative work Guest bio: Aprill Enright is a Melbourne-based artist and creative partner, NED, startup coach, and former co-founder of Tractor Ventures. Her background spans 13 years in technology and customer operations, 10 years as an independent knowledge management consultant through Knowledge Bird, and 13+ years as a startup investor. She is GAICD qualified, a Venture Catalyst alumna, and was recognised as Investor of the Year at the Governor of Victoria Startup Awards in 2023. Guest links: • Aprill Enright: https://aprillenright.com.au/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aprillenright/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aprill.enright/ Conversation references: • Tractor Ventures: https://www.tractorventures.com/ • Knowledge Bird: https://knowledgebird.medium.com/ • National Gallery of Victoria: https://www.ngv.vic.gov.au/ • Jacqui Stockdale: https://www.jacquistockdale.com/ • Human Design: https://human.design/reports/free-report-3 • Claude: https://claude.com/product/overview Chapters: 02:32 Art, science, and growing up in a creative family 04:38 Knowledge Bird, consulting, and building Tractor Ventures 08:19 Leaving the co-founder role and learning what her skills really are 15:50 Courage, ambiguity, and the shape of a new chapter 20:16 Family, vision, and creative lineage Explore further: • Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au • Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au • Subscribe to hear future episodes. About Natural Genius: Natural Genius is a podcast and platform exploring how thoughtful people build meaningful lives, good work, and things that last. In conversation, ideas, qualities, and ways of being that help people access their natural genius come. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Violet Town and Melbourne, 27 March, 2026. Produced at the Violet Town and Kiama offices, 27 March - 25 April, 2026. Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    35 min
  8. #35 - Peppie Simpson: The Ocean as Medicine, Whale Song, and Remembering Who We Are

    APR 23

    #35 - Peppie Simpson: The Ocean as Medicine, Whale Song, and Remembering Who We Are

    In this episode, Sam Bell speaks with Peppie Simpson about the ocean as medicine, whale song, and what nature helps us remember. A pioneer of women’s surfing in Australia, Peppie brings decades across surfing, swimming, teaching, ocean guiding, and whale and dolphin work in Noosa. This is a wide, heartfelt conversation about deep connection to water, nature as intelligence, and the ways whales, dolphins, and the ocean can open people back into feeling, steadiness, and wonder. This episode explores: • the ocean as medicine for the nervous system, body, and mind • a life shaped by surfing, swimming, and deep relationship with water • Hawaii, Joan Ocean, and extraordinary experiences with dolphins and whales • whale song, dolphins, and animal communication • nature as intelligence, subtle signals, and remembering who we are • songlines, migration, and listening more closely to the natural world • grandmothering, guidance, and simple ways of living well • Noosa waterways, the Everglades, and connection to place Guest bio: Peppie Simpson is an ocean guide, surfer, swimmer, teacher, and lifelong water woman based in Noosa. A pioneer of women’s surfing in Australia, she founded the Victorian Women’s Surfing Association, which later became the Australian Women’s Surfing Association. She is a 2x Australian surf champion, a multiple state surfing champion, a 4x world champion in surf life saving ironwoman and swim events, and was recently recognised with both an Australia Day Award for services to surfing and the Noosa Festival of Surfing, and the Spirit of Longboarding Award at the Australian Titles. Through Whalesong Noosa, Peppie takes people onto the water to experience whales, dolphins, songs, and deep connection to nature. Her work also draws on decades of swimming, surf coaching, teaching babies and children in the water, time spent in Hawaii with spinner dolphins, and contributions to whale research. Guest links: • Peppie Simpson: https://www.instagram.com/peppiesimpson/ • Whalesong Noosa: https://whalesongsnoosa.com.au/ • Whalesong Noosa Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/whalesongsnoosa/ Conversation references: • Peppie dives deep into dolphin research: https://noosatoday.com.au/news/13-01-2025/peppie-dives-deep-into-dolphin-research/ • Joan Ocean film: https://www.instagram.com/joanoceanfilm/ • Ocean Films: https://oceanfilms.vhx.tv/ • Pea Horsley: https://animalthoughts.com/ Books: • Dolphin Connection - Joan Ocean • Dolphins into the Future - Joan Ocean • Whale Whisperer - Joan Ocean • Heart to Heart - Pea Horsley • Animal Communication Made Easy - Pea Horsley Chapters: 00:54 Hawaii, Joan Ocean, and returning charged by the ocean 04:22 Dolphins, whales, and extraordinary moments 08:54 A life shaped by water, surfing, and Whalesong Noosa 11:44 The ocean as medicine 14:45 Dolphins, communication, and remembering who we are 20:50 Whale song, songlines, and nature’s intelligence 29:35 Grandmothering, guidance, and the Everglades 44:17 Love, focus, and being a dolphin in daily life Explore further: Book a Lab: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. About Natural Genius: Natural Genius is a podcast hosted by Samantha Bell. Through thoughtful conversations with grounded, capable people, it explores how people build, lead, create, heal, and live in ways that are true to who they are, with greater signal and less noise. Credits: Hosted by Samantha Bell in Noosaville, 15 February, 2026 and Violet Town and Noosa, 1 April, 2026. Produced at the Violet Town, Peregian Beach and Kiama offices, 15 February - 24 April, 2026.

    47 min

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Natural Genius is a podcast of thoughtful conversations with people shaping meaningful lives, useful work and uncommon paths.Hosted by Sam Bell, the show listens for the hidden clever in each guest: the instinct, inner knowing, craft, courage and lived wisdom that shape how they build, lead, create, care and contribute.Guests include founders, operators, makers, artists, elders, wisdom holders and people whose lives carry practical insight.The conversations trace what becomes possible through close listening, trusted instinct, and a life organised around what matters.Listen for the thread. Notice what feels true. Take what’s useful into your own life and work.More at naturalgenius.com.au

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