Natural Genius: Deep Conversations. Meaningful Lives.

Natural Genius

Natural Genius is a podcast of thoughtful conversations with people shaping meaningful lives, useful work and uncommon paths.Hosted by Sam Bell, the show listens for the hidden clever in each guest: the instinct, inner knowing, craft, courage and lived wisdom that shape how they build, lead, create, care and contribute.Guests include founders, operators, makers, artists, elders, wisdom holders and people whose lives carry practical insight.The conversations trace what becomes possible through close listening, trusted instinct, and a life organised around what matters.Listen for the thread. Notice what feels true. Take what’s useful into your own life and work.More at naturalgenius.com.au

  1. 1d ago

    #72 Julie Jungalwala: Beyond the Certainty Trap: The Courage to Do the Work That Is Yours to Do

    Sometimes the clearest signal is short. Julie Jungalwala describes intuition as a quiet, non-insistent invitation. She describes today’s technological environment as “compression”, making space to hear your own signal a more deliberate practice. Julie is a Harvard instructor in Professional & Executive Development, author, workshop leader and executive coach. Through Human Possibility and the Terrain of Transition™, she helps people navigate change and move towards work that feels genuinely theirs. She is writing her second book, The Work You Were Made For: How to find it, do it, and live it, publishing in 2027. Her favourite coaching question is simple: “What do you want?” Julie says around 80% of people pause. Asking from first principles can feel both exhilarating and terrifying. The conversation moves through self-location, seasons of transition, intuition and the appeal of certainty, then into a practical way forward: follow curiosity, run “safe-to-fail experiments” and make choices. Small moves let us learn without demanding the whole answer first. Julie’s career moved from developing individual skills into systems thinking after realising “the environment wins every time”, then back towards the individual after watching people come alive doing work uniquely theirs. Her question now: what is my work to do amid this? What you’ll hear • “What do you want?” and asking from first principles • The Terrain of Transition™ and locating yourself in change • Northern Ireland, roots, safety and privilege • Intuition, technological “compression” and Julie’s three-to-five-word signal • Going slow to go fast and trusting your own internal system • Safe-to-fail experiments, curiosity and embodied choice • Systems thinking and work that brings people alive Guest links • Julie Jungalwala: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliejungalwala/ • Human Possibility: https://www.humanpossibility.com/ • The Knowledge Era Is Ending. Here’s What’s Replacing It [Julie's post that re-connected Sam and Julie]: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/knowledge-era-ending-heres-whats-replacing-julie-jungalwala-ed-m--rkg9e/ • Institute for the Future of Learning: https://www.the-ifl.org/ • The Human Side of Changing Education: https://www.the-ifl.org/book • Terrain of Transition™ Reflection Tool: https://tot.humanpossibility.com/ Conversation mentions • Clare and David Hieatt and The DO Lectures: https://thedolectures.com/info/ • Naomi Dyer-Jones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomi-dyer/ • Hamish Curry’s Natural Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfNMrg6aMfg • Raj / Series A Photography: https://www.seriesaphotography.com/about/ • Sara Walshe: https://www.upswellcoaching.com/sara • Maggie Doyne’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/k-CVbUT1O7E • Tim Ferriss: https://tim.blog/ • Annie Parker’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/mGH_mAgcZfc • Serana Hunt-Hughes’s Natural Genius: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CeCpefExpY • SXSW EDU: https://sxswedu.com/ Chapters 00:13 Reconnecting through The DO Lectures and Julie’s work 07:29 “What do you want?” and the developmental edge 10:19 Terrain of Transition™ and seasons of change 11:42 Northern Ireland, roots, safety and privilege 17:33 Intuition, compression and “woo in a suit” 21:31 Go slow to go fast, certainty and your own internal system 27:17 The work in your heart, safe-to-fail experiments and systems change Explore further Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam Bell: https://samanthabell.com.au Other platforms: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2568387 Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and the Boston area, 18 August 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 18 August - 3 September 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #72 Julie Jungalwala: Beyond the Certainty Trap: The Courage to Do the Work That Is Yours to Do
  2. 3d ago

    #71 Tanner Gesek: What Comes After Freedom? Community, Depth and the Stories We Choose

    What comes after a life designed for freedom? Tanner Gesek builds across startups, venture investing, writing and music. He is founder of Copilot, Venture Partner at WAGMI Ventures, and a pianist and composer whose music has passed 750,000 streams. In this conversation, Tanner and Sam explore a question sparked by David Brooks’ The Second Mountain. A long-held script shaped by The 4-Hour Workweek centred independence, flexibility, travel and adventure. Tanner is now asking what other stories are available, and what becomes possible when freedom also includes chosen commitments, community and depth. The question becomes tangible in a small weekly commitment. Tanner spends an hour most Saturdays improvising piano at a memory-care home, an experience with what he jokingly calls an “outsized meaning ROI”. The conversation follows that thread into friendship, the Network School “slipstream”, welcoming people wholeheartedly, composition, and choosing greater depth in work. What you'll hear: The Second Mountain, The 4-Hour Workweek and questioning the “total freedom” script  Chosen commitments, community and another way of thinking about freedom  Piano in memory care, Frank, impermanence and “outsized meaning ROI”  Network School, friendship and the energy of growing together  Courage, receiving other people’s courage and meeting people wholeheartedly  Returning to music, three albums and 750,000+ streams  Copilot and why niching can be an emotional as well as intellectual problem Guest links: • Tanner Gesek: https://tannergesek.com • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tannergesek/ • X: https://x.com/Tanner_Gesek • Music: https://tannerchristiangesek.com • Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/6X6UFv4MBpNgNmgzl7LggC?si=Ch47_3XmRri8X8sgVukx_g • Writing: https://tannergesek.substack.com • Copilot: https://thecopilotagency.co • WAGMI Ventures: https://wagmiventures.io Conversation mentions: • The Second Mountain by David Brooks: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/217649/the-second-mountain-by-david-brooks • The 4-Hour Workweek: https://fourhourworkweek.com • Presley Gonzales: https://www.linkedin.com/in/presleyjgonzales/ • Blossom Street Ventures: https://www.blossomstreetventures.com/ • Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com/updates • Yiruma: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0fauHpmSHwodVYIjTqOGHz?si=d4QCkc9rQbeJGRdtlTUGAg • Lucas Maddy’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/AMbqTaou6Wk • Network School: https://ns.com/samanthaleebell/invite • The Win Without Pitching Manifesto: https://www.winwithoutpitching.com/books/the-win-without-pitching-manifesto/ Chapters: 00:48 What comes after freedom? The Second Mountain 06:42 Piano, memory care and impermanence 11:05 Network School, ambition and the slipstream 15:08 Friendship, depth and real relationships 17:14 Courage, Presley and welcoming people wholeheartedly 20:21 Returning to music and higher standards 30:18 Growth, Copilot and the emotional challenge of niching Explore further: Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam Bell: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Dallas, Texas, 17 July 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 17 July - 1 September 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #71 Tanner Gesek: What Comes After Freedom? Community, Depth and the Stories We Choose
  3. Aug 27

    #70 - Rachel McIver: Leading Through Paradox, Grace and Grit, and Savouring Sweetness

    Rachel McIver has spent more than 30 years in HR, corporate leadership and leadership development, including senior roles at Coles and almost five years as Chief People & Culture Officer at Nando’s Australia & New Zealand. Today she is CEO & Principal Consultant of The Rachel McIver Group, helping senior leaders move from functional expertise to strategic enterprise leadership. Rachel’s work is grounded in a deceptively simple idea: strong leadership is rarely either/or. People and performance. Grace and grit. Stability and agility. In this conversation, Rachel and Sam explore what happens when leaders stop treating those things as trade-offs and learn to make them strengthen each other. Rachel calls it leading through paradox: holding apparently opposing needs at the same time, then noticing the “halo effect” one can have on the other. The conversation begins with a story remembered nearly a decade later. Sarah Jade Green recalls Rachel helping her navigate a redundancy process with a crucial language shift: a person is not redundant; their role is. It changed the tone from process versus person to organisational need and human care at the same time.  Rachel also reflects on the leaders who shaped her, why work can be a place where people grow as human beings, and why she left a CPO role she loved to go deeper into leadership development across many organisations. And there is another kind of leadership practice here too: creating enough space to notice the sweetness. Rachel describes “savouring sweetness” as noticing micro moments of joy: blossom on a tree, dew on a fence, walking the dog, connecting with community. Not escape from serious work. Replenishment that helps us keep contributing. With thanks to Sarah Jade Green for introducing Rachel and Sam. What you’ll hear • Why “a human being isn’t redundant” changes how leaders approach difficult people decisions  • Leading through paradox: people and performance, grace and grit, stability and agility  • How clarity, care and performance can create a halo effect rather than compete  • What it takes to lead effectively when several competing needs are present at once  • Savouring sweetness, micro moments of joy and creating enough space to notice them  • The leaders who helped Rachel grow through challenge, support, agency and trust  • Why Rachel believes work should help people grow, thrive and carry capability into life beyond work Guest links • Rachel McIver: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachelmciver/ • The Rachel McIver Group: https://therachelmcivergroup.com.au/ Conversation mentions • Sarah Jade Green’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/iSkU4WsIIzs • Repa Patel / Leading Mindfully: https://leadingmindfully.com.au/ • Mindful Leadership Retreat: https://leadingmindfully.com.au/mindful-leadership-retreat/ • Amanda Banfield: https://au.linkedin.com/in/amanda-banfield-36072813 • Greg Davis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/greg-davis-60ba9211 • Andy Coleman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-coleman-221701a • Janine Garner: https://janinegarner.com.au/ • From Hierarchy to Intelligence by Jack Dorsey and Roelof Botha: https://block.xyz/inside/from-hierarchy-to-intelligence • Brené Brown, “Clear is kind”: https://brenebrown.com/articles/2018/10/15/clear-is-kind-unclear-is-unkind/ • Maggie Doyne’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/k-CVbUT1O7E Chapters 00:13 Sarah Jade Green, lasting impact and leadership that travels 04:07 Redundancy, language and holding humanity with performance 06:20 Leading through paradox: grace and grit, people and performance 11:36 Stability, agility and the halo effect 18:06 Mindful leadership and savouring sweetness 25:00 Leaders who challenge, support and help others grow 30:52 Work as a place to develop people 32:44 Leaving Nando’s and building The Rachel McIver Group Explore further Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam Bell: https://samanthabell.com.au Other platforms: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2568387 Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Hawthorn East, on Wurundjeri Country, 14 August 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 14–27 August 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #70 - Rachel McIver: Leading Through Paradox, Grace and Grit, and Savouring Sweetness
  4. Aug 24

    #69 - Waris Hussain: Alternative Education, Curiosity and Building Your Own Path

    Waris Hussain is a growth marketer and builder focused on alternative education. He works in growth at Praxis, a college alternative focused on practical skills and careers, and also has his agency, Catalyst Creatives. His path has moved through graphic design, UX, growth, startup operations, AI and product building, including early work with Career Hackers. He also shares what he learns generously through his public content, especially Instagram, and brings the same kind, open-hearted attention to other people. In this conversation, Waris and Sam trace the path from his final years of school, when time alone and self-directed learning changed the way he saw education and work, through Network School and into the alternative-education ecosystem he is helping build today. Waris talks about Praxis, his own public content, his AltEd Directory of 200+ non-traditional education programs, and the productivity systems he uses to make room for work, travel and life. Underneath it all is a simple thread: stay curious, explore widely, build what is useful and remain human as technology becomes more capable. What you'll hear:  How time alone in his final school years changed Waris’ view of education and possibility  Moving from graphic design and UX into growth marketing, startup operations, AI and building products  Network School and the environments that make learning, health and ambitious work feel easier  Why Waris has focused his work on alternative education and Praxis  Building AltEd Directory to make non-traditional education pathways easier to discover  Productivity as a way to create more life, not simply more work  Childlike curiosity, relationships, nature and the human qualities worth protecting in the age of AI Guest links:  Waris Hussain: https://warishussain.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/waris-hussain Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/warixhussain/ Catalyst Creatives: https://catalystcreativesagency.com AltEd Directory: https://www.alteddirectory.com Productivity handbook: https://warishussain.gumroad.com/l/productivity-handbook YouTube: https://youtube.com/@warishussain7067Conversation mentions:  Praxis: https://joinpraxis.com Naval Ravikant: https://nav.al/ Balaji S. Srinivasan: https://balajis.com Network School: https://ns.com/samanthaleebell/invite Matt Hart's Natural Genius, Humanware and Becoming Yourself in the Age of AI: https://youtu.be/WHfUses9lBAChapters: 00:12 Waris: travel, generosity and Vietnam 06:08 Time alone and choosing your own path 07:59 Network School and environments that make growth easier 13:15 From design to growth marketing, AI and building 17:12 Praxis, alternative education and AltEd Directory 19:54 Productivity, trust and making room for life 29:40 Childlike curiosity, AI and staying human Explore further: Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Other platforms: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2568387 Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Da Nang, Vietnam, 19 May 2026 Produced at the Kiama office, 19 May - 21 August 2026 Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #69 - Waris Hussain: Alternative Education, Curiosity and Building Your Own Path
  5. Aug 20

    #68 - Sarah Harrison: Identity, Personal Branding and Who You Are Beneath the Labels

    Sarah Lynn Harrison works at the intersection of identity, brand, business and human potential. A brand and content strategist for more than a decade, she first became known through Little Miss Melbourne, the successful Melbourne lifestyle blog she began in 2010. Today Sarah is an identity strategist and facilitator, a.k.a. “The Identity Queen”, helping founders, leaders and organisations get clearer about who they are and express that with more consistency, confidence and trust.  In this conversation, Sarah and Sam trace a fascinating path from Melbourne’s early social-media and blogging scene to expat life in Brunei, where Sarah found that many of the external structures she thought defined her no longer mattered. She describes experiencing “identity loss” and becoming deeply interested in the difference between brand identity and the person underneath it.  That experience now informs Sarah’s work. She sees identity as much bigger than tone of voice or a value proposition: something that affects personal confidence, founder-led brands, organisational culture, how other people understand and trust us, and how clearly we can use tools such as AI without becoming generic.  What you’ll hear: • How Little Miss Melbourne grew from Twitter, writing practice and Melbourne’s early digital community  • Why Sarah’s move to Brunei challenged the identity she had built around work, reputation and labels  • The difference between visual branding, verbal brand identity and core identity  • Sarah’s natural ability to notice patterns, listen for what matters and translate a business’s essence  • Why founder identity often flows into organisational culture, trust and customer experience  • Imposter syndrome, self-worth and the risk of relying too heavily on external labels  • How clear brand frameworks can help AI produce work that sounds more genuinely like you  Guest links: • Sarah Lynn Harrison: https://www.sarahlynnharrison.co • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahlynnharrison/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sarahlynnharrison.co • Little Miss Melbourne: https://www.littlemissmelbourne.com/  Conversation mentions: • Tresna Lee: https://www.tresnalee.com/  Chapters: 00:12 Sarah Harrison: brand, business and human potential 00:44 Expat identity, Brunei and the “Purple Shop” 05:40 Little Miss Melbourne and the early social-media years 12:24 From copywriting to verbal brand identity 15:45 Identity loss, labels and who you are at the core 17:52 Identity, trust, imposter syndrome and organisational culture 23:30 Brand clarity, AI and authentic expression Explore further: Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and East London, 21 July, 2026. Produced at the Kiama office, 21 July - 20 August, 2026. Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #68 - Sarah Harrison: Identity, Personal Branding and Who You Are Beneath the Labels
  6. Aug 12

    #67 - Maggie Doyne: Everybody’s the CEO and Building What Seems Impossible

    For more than 20 years, Maggie Doyne and the people around her have been building something that once seemed impossible. Maggie is Co-founder and CEO of BlinkNow, author of Between the Mountain and the Sky and the subject of Jeremy Power Regimbal’s documentary of the same name. Together with co-founder Tope Bahadur Malla and a largely Nepali team, BlinkNow has grown from a small children’s home into a wider community-development organisation working across education, family support, women’s empowerment, health, sustainability and poverty prevention. Maggie’s work has been recognised by CNN Heroes, the Dalai Lama, Forbes, Elizabeth Gilbert, Katie Couric, Prince Harry and Meghan, Duchess of Sussex, and The New York Times Magazine.  More than 285,000 people have already watched the documentary. It has received more than 30 festival awards worldwide, including Audience Choice and Student Choice at Telluride Mountainfilm.  Watch the film: https://www.betweenthemountainandthesky.com/ What comes through strongly in this conversation is the impressive leader Maggie has become. She and Tope openly look for people who know more than they do, build around different strengths and give people genuine responsibility for their piece. As Maggie puts it: “Everybody’s the CEO.” Whether someone is with the cows, leading the school or teaching in a classroom, their contribution matters. BlinkNow has grown slowly, organically and through listening to community rather than following a predetermined plan. Maggie describes this diversity of leadership and co-leadership as an important part of their “secret sauce”. The conversation moves through family, leadership, communication, regulating yourself so you can “hold centre”, the long development of BlinkNow, and the deeper work of preventing children from becoming orphaned by addressing multidimensional poverty. Maggie also talks about BlinkNow’s growing role in helping other social-impact leaders and organisations. This year, 84 organisations applied to take part in the BlinkNow Leadership Academy and Summit. BlinkNow is increasingly sharing what it has learnt as an open-source model with community leaders around the world. And Maggie makes an important point: there is no shortage of people who want better for children. Every community has dreamers, changemakers and people already doing this work. The opportunity is to find them, support them and help them move faster. If Maggie’s story moves you, watch the film, support BlinkNow, and/or get involved by finding the people already doing this work in your own community. What you’ll hear • Addressing the root causes of orphanhood through education, dignified work, women’s empowerment, health and stronger communities • BlinkNow Summit, STEPS Program, sharing learning beyond Nepal and the possibility of DO Nepal • “All it takes is one stable grown-up to change a child’s life.” • Parenting, communication and learning to be steady, warm, firm and boundaried • Why Maggie and Tope deliberately find people with skills they do not have • “Everybody’s the CEO” and giving people real responsibility for their area • Making time for sleep, nature and recovery to stay in the work for the long haul • Why Maggie sees no shortage of dreamers, changemakers and people wanting better for children around the world Guest links • Maggie Doyne: https://www.maggie-doyne.com/ • Maggie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/maggiedoyne • BlinkNow: http://www.blinknow.org/ • Give to BlinkNow: http://www.blinknow.org/give • Between the Mountain and the Sky film: https://www.betweenthemountainandthesky.com/ [sign up to be notified of the next global screening] • Between the Mountain and the Sky book: https://www.amazon.com/Between-Mountain-Sky-Mothers-Healing/dp/0785240284 • BlinkNow Summit: https://www.blinknow.org/blog/blinknow-summit-brings-together-leaders-working-for-nepals-children-and-families/ • BlinkNow Strengthening Public Schools Through Partnerships (STEPS): https://www.blinknow.org/scaling-programs/ Conversation mentions • Anna Beuselinck’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/sL0mWUU06nY • The DO Lectures: https://thedolectures.com/ • Maggie Doyne's DO Lectures talk: https://thedolectures.com/speakers/maggie-doyne/ • Jeremy Power Regimbal: https://www.jeremypowerregimbal.com/about • Lauren Holden Kilbane: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurenholdenkilbane/ • Sarah Blondin's meditations: https://www.sarahblondin.com/ Chapters 00:13 Maggie, the film, Vancouver Island and preparing for the long haul 03:03 Anna Beuselinck, DO Lectures and the ripple effects of one vulnerable talk 05:47 Family, communication and making the person in front of you matter 12:52 Holding centre, regulation and growing up alongside the children 15:42 Listening, co-leadership and slow organic growth 18:54 “Everybody’s the CEO”: finding people who know more than you 24:40 The children growing up, prevention and addressing multidimensional poverty 29:18 BlinkNow Summit, STEPS and sharing the model beyond Nepal 31:26 Love of life, staying in the work and the possibility of DO Nepal Explore further Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Other platforms: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2568387 Subscribe to hear future Natural Genius conversations. Credits Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Vancouver Island, 7 August 2026. Produced at the Kiama office, 7–12 August 2026. Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #67 - Maggie Doyne: Everybody’s the CEO and Building What Seems Impossible
  7. Aug 8

    #66 - Anna Beuselinck: Joy, Impact, Ease and the Art of Locating Yourself

    Anna Beuselinck has spent decades paying close attention to people: how they behave, what helps them grow, and what allows more joy, impact and ease into work and life. She is an ICF-certified executive coach and organisation strategist who has worked across leadership, culture and organisational development with global organisations including Nike, Gap, Nestlé, Reebok and Genentech, as well as founders, CEOs, boards and C-suite leaders.  And that is only one dimension of Anna’s life. With her husband Gary, Anna is co-founder and steward of Campovida, a certified organic farm, garden and vineyard retreat in Northern California. Together they also steward Stock Farm Restaurant & Inn and the historic Thatcher Hotel in the  town of Hopland. Their work has included restoring land and buildings, making wine, creating places for people to gather and investing in the life of their local community. Anna also co-founded and hosted the DO Lectures USA at Campovida.  In this conversation, Anna and Sam move between leadership and land, coaching and community, marriage and family, business ownership and the inner work of knowing where you are. Anna describes growing up as the youngest of 11 children, learning to observe people closely, and eventually realising that being interested in others also needs to be balanced by being interesting: developing your own point of view and finding your voice.  Later, through Method Writing with Jules Swales, another idea deepened: locate yourself first. Anna now brings that quality of presence into her work with clients, describing herself less as the person responsible for their growth and more as a “helpful observer” who can sometimes offer the question, perspective or gentle push that helps someone move.   What you’ll hear: • Growing up as the youngest of 11 and becoming a lifelong observer of human behaviour • Finding a voice and point of view while working internationally in leadership and organisational development • Anna’s guiding inquiry into creating more joy, impact and ease • Building and stewarding Campovida, Stock Farm and Thatcher Hotel with Gary in Hopland • Life Gardener, compost and the value hidden inside difficult experiences • Why Anna’s best clients are both interested and interesting • Presence, Method Writing and helping people “locate themselves” Guest links: • Anna Beuselinck: https://www.alifegardener.com/ • Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lifegardener/ • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-beuselinck-b445371/ • Campovida: https://www.campovida.com • Thatcher Hotel: https://www.thatcherhotel.com • Thatcher Hotel Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatcherhotel/ • Stock Farm Restaurant & Inn: https://www.stockfarmhopland.com • Stock Farm Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stockfarmhopland/ Conversation mentions: • Gary Breen: https://www.felizcreekcellars.com/our-team-1 • Method Writing with Jules Swales: https://www.julesswales.com/method-writing-tip-authentic-writer/ • The DO Lectures USA: https://thedolectures.com/everything/?eventType=DO%20USA • The DO Lectures: https://thedolectures.com/ • Clare and David Hieatt, co-founders of DO: https://thedolectures.com/our-story/ • The Biggest Little Farm: https://www.biggestlittlefarmmovie.com/ • Payne’s Hut: https://www.facebook.com/PaynesHut • Rick Rubin’s Tetragrammaton podcast: https://www.tetragrammaton.com/podcasts Chapters: 00:13 Anna, Campovida and a life of leadership and stewardship 02:52 Growing up as the youngest of 11 and learning to observe 06:54 Finding her voice and choosing joy, impact and ease 16:30 Campovida, Hopland and building places with Gary 31:24 Life Gardener, compost and learning through what is difficult 37:17 Interested and interesting: what Anna notices in people who grow 40:07 Coaching as a firm hand, a holding hand and helpful observation 42:07 Method Writing, presence and locating yourself 45:53 DO Lectures USA and shining a light on interesting people Explore further: Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Other platforms: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2568387 Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and Anna Beuselinck at Campovida, Hopland, 29 July 2026. Produced at the Kiama office, 29 July - 9 August 2026.  Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #66 - Anna Beuselinck: Joy, Impact, Ease and the Art of Locating Yourself
  8. Aug 7

    #65 - Carl Rausch: Delivering Oxygen Without Blood and Keeping Breakthrough Science Alive

    What happens when someone urgently needs oxygen delivered to their tissues and compatible blood is not immediately available? Carl Rausch has spent much of his working life trying to solve versions of that problem. Carl Rausch is a chemical and medical engineer, biotechnology founder and senior executive whose career has spanned some of the formative decades of modern biotechnology. He was Founder, former Chairman and CEO of Biopure, later led Boston Therapeutics and World Technology East II, and has worked across blood purification, separation science, haemoglobin-based oxygen delivery, clinical development, manufacturing, regulation and commercialisation. Along the way he has raised significant capital, built and led teams of around 200–250 people, testified before congressional committees, worked with senior leaders across major pharmaceutical and biotechnology companies, and assembled boards and investor groups that included three billionaires and former US Surgeon General C. Everett Koop. Carl and Sam move through an extraordinary life in science and business: his early work in environmental and life-science engineering, caring for his father with ALS, purification of blood-derived products, the AIDS crisis and the development of bovine haemoglobin as an oxygen carrier.  They also explore what happens when promising science meets company upheaval, regulation, manufacturing complexity and repeated commercial setbacks. Carl is still pushing the work forward, including applications in veterinary medicine, organ sustainability and kidney transplantation.  Away from the science, there are glimpses of Carl’s love of travelling, hiking, skiing, sailing, family and a life increasingly designed for greater freedom. Thank you to Christopher Treble for introducing us. Content note: This conversation includes discussion of animal bleeding and veterinary procedures, severe human blood loss and postpartum haemorrhage. It also includes Carl’s views and experiences of medical regulation and blood banking. These are shared as personal and professional perspectives, not medical advice. What you’ll hear: • How Carl moved from chemical engineering into medicine, biology and blood science • Caring for his father with ALS and designing practical ways to help him keep working • Blood purification, the AIDS crisis and the origins of Carl’s bovine haemoglobin work • Delivering oxygen without matched human blood • Building companies, losing control of technology and repeatedly starting again • Veterinary applications, organ sustainability and kidney transplantation • A life of science, persistence, travel, family and creating more freedom Guest links: • Carl Rausch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carl-rausch-7566824/ • Carl on delivering oxygen without blood: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7484543321936416768/ • Carl on delivering oxygen without blood 2: https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7451251694543327232/ Conversation mentions: • Christopher Treble’s Natural Genius: https://youtu.be/5jSAFj7lwy8 • Dr Mario Feola, whose work helped influence Carl’s move towards cattle as a controlled source of haemoglobin Chapters: 00:13 Christopher Treble, technology and how humans learn 12:35 Carl’s current mission and a life built around the work 16:28 His father’s ALS and the move into medical engineering 19:11 Blood purification, Waters and the emerging biotechnology industry 28:50 The AIDS crisis, bovine haemoglobin and delivering oxygen 39:31 Veterinary use, regulation and keeping the technology alive 48:42 Organ sustainability, kidney transplantation and future applications 56:34 Building companies, selling the science and creating more freedom Explore further: Discover Natural Genius: https://naturalgenius.com.au Learn more about Sam: https://samanthabell.com.au Other platforms: https://www.buzzsprout.com/2568387 Subscribe to hear future episodes. Credits: Hosted by Samantha (Sam) Bell in Kiama and New York, 22 July 2026. Produced at the Kiama office, 22 July - 7 August 2026. Natural Genius Podcast https://naturalgenius.com.au

    #65 - Carl Rausch: Delivering Oxygen Without Blood and Keeping Breakthrough Science Alive

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Natural Genius is a podcast of thoughtful conversations with people shaping meaningful lives, useful work and uncommon paths.Hosted by Sam Bell, the show listens for the hidden clever in each guest: the instinct, inner knowing, craft, courage and lived wisdom that shape how they build, lead, create, care and contribute.Guests include founders, operators, makers, artists, elders, wisdom holders and people whose lives carry practical insight.The conversations trace what becomes possible through close listening, trusted instinct, and a life organised around what matters.Listen for the thread. Notice what feels true. Take what’s useful into your own life and work.More at naturalgenius.com.au

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