SAY THAT AGAIN with Pastor Jason

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Jason Britt has been the Lead Pastor of Bethlehem Church in Winder, GA since 2011. His heart, along with the heart of Bethlehem Church, is to lead people to discover new life in Christ. Say That Again is a place to cut through the noise, dig deeper, and have honest conversations about real life and real faith. We’ll tackle the questions people are actually asking and talk about what it looks like to follow Jesus when life gets complicated. The reality is that all of us are being discipled by something - our culture, our society, the people around us. We want to be discipled by Truth.

  1. 5d ago

    S2EP4: Am I Succeeding At The Wrong Things?

    What happens when the drive for success starts taking over your heart, your rest, and your relationships? In this honest and deeply personal episode of Say That Again, Pastor Jason Britt and host CJ Moneke are joined by Executive Pastor Kevin Miller to tackle the heavy weight of ambition, performance, and gospel-centered identity.   Together, they dive into John 15 to unpack the crucial distinction between achievement (visible metrics, status, and impressing others) and fruitfulness (abiding in Christ, relational depth, and blessing others). Pastor Jason shares openly about his personal wrestling with leadership anxiety, hitting walls that felt like burnout but were actually God breaking him, and learning to surrender the constant need for approval.   Guilt Around Rest: Unpacking bad habits with Sabbath and why high-capacity leaders struggle to pause and celebrate God's work. The Danger of "The Next Mountain": Why achieving your next milestone won't fix what is broken inside you. When Failure Feels Existential: Why criticism or coaching triggers defensive identity crises when our value is tied to applause. Family Leftovers: Recognizing that success owns us when the people closest to us get what's left over instead of our best. The Antidote: Using biblical community, Philippians 4 contentment, and honest self-checks ("Search me, O God") to keep motives pure.   Whether you're leading a team, building a career in your 20s, or striving to be faithful in everyday life, this episode provides a liberating roadmap to stop performing for the applause of culture and start resting in your identity in Christ. In this episode, we cover: Redefining Success: How societal standards of success (money, status, recognition) clash with biblical fruitfulness. Achievement vs. Fruitfulness: Breaking down John 15—visible metrics and performance vs. abiding in the Vine and blessing others. Burnout vs. Breaking: How God uses seasons of exhaustion to break our self-reliance and draw us back to dependence. Guilt Around Rest & Sabbath: How a drive toward "the next thing" keeps leaders from resting and celebrating wins. Identity & Criticism: Why receiving coaching or correction feels like an identity crisis when identity is built on approval. Family Getting Leftovers: Identifying when success has become an idol—starting when spouse and kids receive depleted energy. The Antidote: Using biblical community, Philippians 4 contentment, and Psalm 139 prayers to guard the heart against ambition.   Timestamps:   00:00 — Intro & Welcome: Introducing Pastor Kevin Miller 01:19 — High School Superlatives & Preschool Presidents 02:51 — Defining Success: Applause, Affirmation, and Achievement 05:35 — The Big Question: What If You Succeed in Things That Don't Matter? 07:05 — John 15: The Vine, the Branches, and Abiding in Christ 08:55 — Achievement vs. Fruitfulness: Visible Metrics vs. Lasting Good 10:47 — The Addiction to Performance: Why Success Is Never Enough 14:07 — Facing Pastoral Pressure: Striving for Peace Through Metrics 16:00 — Burnout vs. Breaking: How God Rescues Us from Performance 18:00 — Deep Soul Desires: Distorting God-Given Purpose into Surface Success 20:46 — Grounding Prayers: Praying for Humility over Platform 22:20 — 1 Corinthians 4 & Psalm 139: Clearing Your Conscience Before God 25:50 — Red Flags of Success: When You Can't Celebrate Someone Else's Win 27:50 — Wounds, Performance, and Finding Rest in Your Identity 28:58 — Guilt Around Rest: The Shadow Side of Rushing to the "Next Thing" 31:03 — Family Leftovers: Knowing When Ambition Has Taken Over 32:04 — The Danger of "The Next Mountain" & Learning Contentment 35:04 — The Antidote: Community, Accountability, and Filtered Motives 37:55 — Encouragement for CJ, Teasing Upcoming Episodes, and Outro Episode Resources:   📖 Scripture References: John 15:1–5 Mark 8:36 1 Corinthians 4:3–4 Philippians 4:11–13 Psalm 139:23–24   Calls to Action (CTAs)   Subscribe & Like: Hit the subscribe button and like the video to help reach more people. Share the Episode: Share this video with a friend who needs encouragement in this area. Connect with Bethlehem Church: Visit bethlehemchurch.us to take your next step in your walk with Jesus or find a local campus.

  2. Sep 15

    S2EP3: S*x, Lies, and Identity (It’s NOT What You Think)

    ⚠️ Content Warning: This episode contains direct, mature conversations about biblical sexuality, pornography, intimacy, and mental health. Viewer and listener discretion is advised, especially for younger audiences. Podcast Description: What does it look like to follow Jesus in our confusing, cloudy, and complicated culture? In this episode of Say That Again, Pastor Jason, Chevas Phillips, and CJ Moneke tackle a topic the world is loud about and the church cannot be silent on: sex, sexuality, and identity. Cutting through the awkwardness and shame, the team breaks down why biblical sexuality starts with God’s creation rather than a list of prohibitions. They discuss how modern culture has shifted sexuality from something you do to who you are, and why trusting God's authority over our body and desires is the ultimate test of discipleship. Plus, the conversation gets deeply practical: Winning the War for Your Mind: Moving from retroactive accountability to stopping temptation at the “desire” level. Towers of Defense: The power of Scripture internalization over simple memorization - storing up "warring verses" before the battle hits. Parenting in a Digital Age: Why parents must bring a wartime mentality to technology, boundaries, and phone monitoring. Grace & Truth: How to treat every individual with Imago Dei dignity without sacrificing biblical truth. Whether you're single, married, or raising kids, this episode offers a freeing, gospel-centered roadmap for walking out sexual integrity in a hyper-connected world. In this episode, we cover: Pre-Christian vs. Post-Christian Culture: Applying early church biblical ethics to modern secular society. Creation vs. Prohibition: Why biblical sexuality originates in God's creation design, not a list of restrictions. Authority & Identity Shift: Addressing how culture shifted sexuality from what you do to who you are, and trusting God as the ultimate authority. Light, Community & Accountability: Overcoming isolation and shame by bringing struggles into the open at the “desire” level. Proactive Spiritual Defense: Developing a "wartime mentality" through intentional time with God, Scripture internalization, and "warring verses." Parenting & Digital Safety: Establishing boundaries, active phone monitoring, and spiritual leadership in a hyper-connected world. Truth with Grace: Engaging people with dignity and respect regardless of lifestyle differences, rejecting both condemnation and compromise.   📖 Bible Passages Referenced Genesis 1:27: Humanity was created male and female in the image of God (Imago Dei). 1 Corinthians 5 & 6: Christian freedom, sexual ethics, and fleeing sexual immorality. John 8:1–11: Jesus, grace, and the woman caught in adultery (neither condemning nor condoning). Psalm 119:9–11: Guarding one's path by storing God's Word in the heart to combat sin. James 1:14: Understanding how personal desire leads to temptation and sin.   📚 Book Recommendations Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry People to Be Loved by Preston Sprinkle    Calls to Action (CTAs) Subscribe & Like: Hit the subscribe button and like the video to help reach more people. Share the Episode: Share this video with a friend who needs encouragement in this area. Connect with Bethlehem Church: Visit bethlehemchurch.us to take your next step in your walk with Jesus or find a local campus.

  3. Sep 1

    S2EP2: Can Christians Drink, Get Tattoos & Listen to Secular Music?

    Host: Pastor Jason Britt  Guests: CJ Moneke & Chevas Phillips  Podcast Description: What’s the difference between holy living, wisdom, and legalism? In this episode of Say That Again with Pastor Jason, Jason, CJ, and Chevas tackle some of the questions Christians often ask: Can I drink? Can I get a tattoo? What about the music I listen to? What shows can I watch? How do I know if something is actually sinful - or simply a matter of wisdom? The conversation explores how easily personal convictions can become universal rules and why following Jesus isn’t about walking the closest possible line to sin. Instead, we’re called to keep our eyes on Jesus, walk in wisdom, listen to the Holy Spirit, and recognize that every believer is in a different stage of the sanctification process. Whether you’ve been hurt by legalism, struggled with gray areas, or simply want to grow in wisdom, this episode offers a freeing reminder: wisdom isn’t about knowing everything. It’s about making decisions that honor Jesus. In this episode, we cover: Legalism takes our eyes off Jesus and places them on rules, behaviors, or personal convictions. There’s a difference between clear biblical truth and personal conviction. Unique convictions should not automatically become universal principles. Holiness means being set apart because of Jesus - not being better than others. Wisdom is about decision-making, not intelligence. The right question in many gray areas isn’t simply, “Can I do this?” but “Is this the wisest thing for me?” Your story, struggles, season of life, and position can all influence what wise living looks like. Sanctification is a process - forgiveness happens in a moment, but change happens over a lifetime. We can’t manufacture life change or microwave discipleship. We have to trust the Holy Spirit’s work in people. Surrounding yourself with trusted voices who want God’s best for you is essential for spiritual growth. Everyone is in a different place in their journey, so we should lead with grace, truth, encouragement, and patience. Ultimately, wisdom has a name: Jesus. Timestamps: 00:00 — Welcome to Season 2 02:42 — What Are the “Gray Areas”? 03:40 — Holy Living vs. Legalism 07:18 — How Do You Become a Legalist? 12:22 — Old-School vs. New-School Legalism 15:39 — What Is Wisdom? 18:42 — Conviction, Surrender & Your Story 27:54 — Should We Encourage Others to Follow Our Convictions? 29:51 — You Can’t Microwave Discipleship 38:24 — Final Encouragement & Resources   Episode Resources 📖 Bible Passages Referenced 1 Corinthians 1-2 Luke 13:10-17 (Jesus and the Sabbath) Philippians 4:8-9 Matthew 12:42 (Jesus as Wisdom) 📚 Book Recommendation Accidental Pharisees by Larry Osborne 💭 Question to Take With You: “Is this the wise decision based on who I am, my walk with Jesus, and the season of life I’m in?”   Calls to Action (CTAs)   Subscribe & Like: Hit the subscribe button and like the video to help reach more people. Share the Episode: Share this video with a friend who needs encouragement in this area. Connect with Bethlehem Church: Visit bethlehemchurch.us to take your next step in your walk with Jesus or find a local campus.

  4. Aug 18

    S2EP1 - How to Build a Life Your Kids Will Want to Follow

    How to Build a Life Your Kids Will Want to Follow  Host: Pastor Jason Britt  Guest: Ryan Britt (Executive Ministries Pastor, The Church of Eleven22) Podcast Description: What kind of spiritual resume are you leaving behind for the next generation? In this candid, deeply personal conversation, Pastor Jason sits down with his brother, Ryan Britt, to reflect on their upbringing, navigating early loss, and the lessons learned from their parents. Together, they dive into the realities of breaking free from an orphan spirit and poverty mindset, fighting the pull of a hurried soul, and cultivating a culture of generous, joyful giving in the home. Whether you are leading a family, serving in ministry, or working to build a lasting legacy, this episode offers grounded wisdom on living a life of presence, trust, and purpose. In this episode, we cover: Grief & Processing Pain: Navigating childhood trauma, losing a parent at a young age, and understanding how unaddressed grief manifests as rebellion or performance. Generational Legacy & Patterns: The difference between achievement and fruitfulness, breaking negative family cycles, and acknowledging both the "lights and shadows" of parents. Spiritual Formation & Daily Habits: How daily routines—like consistent prayer, Scripture reading, and modeling faith at home—shape the next generation. Overcoming Toxic Mindsets: Moving past an orphan spirit (feeling unwanted/abandoned) and a poverty mindset around finances to embrace true identity in Christ. Gospel-Centered Generosity: Transitioning from legalistic, percentage-based giving out of duty to cheerful, first-and-best giving driven by grace. Soul Care & Pacing: Fighting the pull of a hurried soul through intentional solitude, presence, and home sanctuaries.   Timestamps:   0:00 – Season 2 Welcome & Swag Giveaway 1:39 – Introducing Ryan Britt & Family Life in Jacksonville 4:54 – Ryan's Role at The Church of Eleven22 8:10 – Processing Childhood Pain, Cancer, and Loss 16:14 – Medicating Pain vs. Performing in Faith 19:53 – Secrets, Conviction, and Surrendering to Jesus 25:06 – Lessons from "Wild Bill": Legacy & Generational Patterns 30:53 – "The Green Chair": Reflecting on Dad's Spiritual Habits 33:18 – Discipling the Next Generation & College-Age Faith 36:55 – Fighting the "Hurried Soul" 39:31 – The Practice of Generosity & Overcoming the Orphan Spirit 42:074 – Rejecting Poverty vs. Prosperity Gospels 48:49 – Obedience as Joy & Brennan Manning’s Ruthless Trust 50:16 – Character, Ministry, and Brotherly Support 52:07 – Closing & Say That Again Season Preview Episode Resources   Books Mentioned: Ruthless Trust by Brennan Manning The Ragamuffin Gospel by Brennan Manning Scripture References: Luke 15 (The Prodigal Son & Older Brother) John 3 (Light vs. Darkness & Secrecy) Hebrews 11 & 12 (Faith & Redacted History) 1 Corinthians (Fall Teaching Series Context) Churches & Ministries:   Bethlehem Church The Church of Eleven22 Calls to Action (CTAs)   Subscribe & Like: Hit the subscribe button and like the video to help reach more people off the cutting room floor. Engage in the Comments: Drop a comment with the word "HAT" to enter the giveaway for a free Bethlehem Church hat and swag. Share the Episode: Share this video with a friend or fellow dad who needs encouragement on building a lasting legacy. Connect with Bethlehem Church: Visit Bethlehem Church online to take your next step in your walk with Jesus or find a local campus.

  5. May 26

    Ep 9: Jesus at Your 9-5

    In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with longtime friend, mentor, and veteran podcaster Mike Linch - Lead Pastor of Northstar Church and host of Linch with a Leader - for a transparent conversation about what it actually takes to go the distance in faith, leadership, and community impact.   In a culture obsessed with quick wins, viral clips, and instant platforms, Jason and Mike unpack the counter-cultural power of longevity and resilient redundancy. They look at the changing cultural landscape from 2020 to 2026, dealing with the painful realities of leadership - like navigating hyper-sensitive cultural optics and learning when to simply "let the disgruntled grunt" while keeping a "screen door" policy of open-hearted love.   Finally, Mike shares an incredible, perspective-shifting story from the baseball diamond that reminds us of our true identity: wherever you are placed on the map, you are a "minister in disguise." Whether you are a parent at the dinner table, a corporate leader, or a coach on the field, this episode will challenge you to stop overestimating social media clout and start leaning into the profound influence of everyday discipleship.   In this episode, we cover: The Anchor of Longevity: Why staying in one place long-term kills ego, builds deep trust, and keeps you grounded. Church FOR the Community: Re-positioning the local church to become the city's first call for help by serving with no strings attached. Resilient Redundancy: Why doing the same core things over and over with hunger and curiosity is the secret "magic" behind momentum. Letting the Disgruntled Grunt: Embracing the emotional toll of leadership, handling exits with grace, and maintaining an open "screen door" church culture. Ministers in Disguise: Why your uniform, job title, or zip code is just a cover for your real assignment: representing Jesus exactly where you are.   Timestamps   00:00 – Intro: Shifting from a weekend message to a mid-week mission. 00:45 – Welcoming Mike Lynch: A 30-year full-circle friendship. 02:30 – The In-Law Connection: Honoring the legacy of Eddie and Lou Dell Bishop. 06:40 – The Anchor of Longevity: Staying grounded when people know the "real you" first. 12:06 – Church FOR the Community: Becoming the city's first call for help. 16:18 – Irresistible Influence: Building bridges to schools, government, and local businesses. 18:25 – The Aftermath of Crisis: Showing up consistently before tragedy strikes. 21:40 – Who is My Neighbor? Recognizing the needs of the people in your natural life path. 24:15 – Moving at the Speed of People: Why Jesus’ greatest ministry moments were actually interruptions. 26:17 – 10 Years of Lynch with a Leader: Core takeaways from a decade of interviewing iconic Christian leaders. 28:45 – Sweeping the Streets: True greatness found in the mundane. 31:30 – Intentional Curiosity: Why leaders must never assume they have a corner on the market (and Andy Stanley’s driver). 34:19 – Resilient Redundancy: How doing the same core things over and over builds the magic of momentum. 35:33 – The Battle and the Build: Managing burnout, emotional weariness, and personal rhythms in ministry. 38:49 – Letting the Disgruntled Grunt: Navigating the emotional toll of people leaving and why we need "screen door" relationships. 43:31 – The Post-2020 Shift: Leading through a landscape hyper-sensitive to optics, assumptions, and misread moments. 45:31 – Digital Boundaries: Practical strategies for protecting your peace on X, LinkedIn, and Instagram. 47:57 – Ministers in Disguise: The inspiring home plate prayer story and the unmatched value of everyday influence over social media clips.   Episode Resources https://mikelinch.com/ Bethlehem Church Website   Call to Actions (CTAs)   Identify Your Assignment: You are a minister in disguise. Whether you're an educator, a business owner, a stay-at-home parent, or a nurse, how can you consciously represent Jesus in your "uniform" this week? Share your thoughts in the comments below! Embrace the Routine: If the "resilient redundancy" of your everyday life is starting to feel heavy or boring, take Mike's advice: build in a brief rhythm to pause, reset, and ask God to renew your curiosity for the mundane spaces. Tune In & Expand Your Leadership: Want to catch more of Mike's interviews with world-class leaders? Subscribe to Lynch with a Leader on your favorite podcast platform. Subscribe & Share: If this conversation gave you a healthy dose of courage to face your daily battles, hit subscribe and share it with a teammate, coworker, or friend who needs the reminder that they aren't where they are by accident. #SayThatAgainPodcast #BethlehemChurch #JasonBritt #MikeLynch #NorthstarChurch #LynchWithALeader #EverydayDisciple #ResilientRedundancy #MinisterInDisguise #SpeedOfLove #MarketplaceKingdom #ChristianLeadership #Longevity #CommunityFirst

  6. May 12

    Ep 8: The Kind of Strength You Only Get Through Struggle

    In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt sits down with Tyler Staton - Lead Pastor of Bridgetown Church in Portland and author of The Familiar Stranger - for a masterclass on the most misunderstood person of the Trinity: the Holy Spirit. In this conversation, they bridge the gap between "Word" churches and "Spirit" churches, moving past the "hermeneutic gymnastics" that often keep us from experiencing God’s power. From Tyler’s roots in rural Kentucky to his raw, personal journey through a two-year battle with cancer, this episode explores why the Spirit is often a "Familiar Stranger" in our lives. They tackle the hard truth at the center of the gospel: that the greatest strength is often forged in the deepest suffering. They also provide a vision for a "Marketplace Kingdom" that exists everywhere from car dealerships to Little League games. Whether you're a pastor searching for fresh leadership tools or a believer longing for a "both/and" faith (spirit and truth, thinking and feeling), this conversation is the breath of fresh air you’ve been looking for.   In this episode, we cover: The "Familiar Stranger" Problem: Why we are comfortable with God as Father and Son, but remain awkward with the indwelling Spirit. The “Simon the Sorcerer” Trap: Differentiating between the "ego-driven" pursuit of miracles and the "cross-driven" pursuit of Jesus. The Theology of Suffering: Why the most powerful work of Jesus' life came through His own suffering—and why ours is no different. New Testament Prophecy: Reclaiming prophecy as a humble act of brotherly love rather than a "spiritual bullseye." The Marketplace Kingdom: Why 39 out of 40 parables were set outside the temple—and how to live missionally in your "ordinary" life. After Amen: An inside look at Tyler’s new 50-day devotional, featuring poetry lifted straight from his private prayer journals during his illness. Timestamps 00:00 – Intro: Moving from a weekend message to a mid-week mission. 01:30 – Meet Tyler Staton: The impact of Familiar Stranger on Bethlehem Church. 02:54 – Tyler’s Journey: From Nashville tobacco farms to Brooklyn and Portland. 05:48 – Defining the "Familiar Stranger": Knowing about Him vs. knowing Him. 09:40 – Theology, Model, & Practice: Why our models of the Spirit are often the source of our fear. 14:59 – The Marriage of Word and Spirit: Ending the 51/49 theological divide. 17:12 – Holy Spirit in the Valley: Lessons on finding the "peace that transcends understanding" during a cancer battle. 23:35 – Power vs. The Cross: Learning from the mistakes of Simon the Sorcerer. 29:05 – The Apostle Peter: From cutting off ears to being filled with the Spirit. 30:38 – Rightsizing Prophecy: How to hear and share the voice of God with humility. 37:15 – For Pastors: Leading a "both/and" community in a noisy, image-driven culture. 40:46 – Marketplace Faith: Why Jesus dreams about the Kingdom invading our everyday lives. 44:00 – After Amen: A 50-day journey through the signs of John and the "treasures of the wilderness." 48:38 – Final Blessing: Being a "city on a hill" in your community.   Join the Conversation Jesus spent most of His time teaching in the streets, not the temple. Where is your "marketplace"? How are you seeing the Kingdom of God show up in your office, in your gym, or at your kitchen table this week? Share your story in the comments!   Episode Resources: Familiar Stranger by Tyler Staton After Amen: A 50-Day Devotional by Tyler Staton Bridgetown Church Prayer Trainings CTAs: Subscribe & Review: If Say That Again is a "breath of fresh air" for your week, hit that subscribe button and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts or Spotify. This helps us reach more people with the message of the Kingdom! Spread the Light: Know someone currently navigating a "wilderness" season? Send them a link to this episode. The kind of strength found in struggle is meant to be shared. Stay Connected: Don't miss a beat. Follow Bethlehem Church on social media to stay updated on our latest series and mid-week resources. #SayThatAgainPodcast #BethlehemChurch #JasonBritt #TylerStaton #BridgetownChurch #FamiliarStranger #AfterAmen #HolySpirit #ChristianPodcast

  7. Apr 28

    Ep 7: The Church Isn’t What It Used to Be…

    Podcast Description: The "Disney World" of secular culture is looking hollower than ever. In this episode, Pastor Jason Britt and Pastor Jason Berry (Senior Pastor of 12Stone Church) discuss why the next generation is trading "jumpy houses" for deep prayer and authentic worship. They explore the startling shift in the last 24–36 months, identifying a "fresh move" of God that is rising out of cultural pressure. From the expansion of 12Stone into South Carolina to the vital importance of the Ecclesia (the Church) over "celebrity Jesus" culture, this episode is a rallying cry for the "Big C" Church. Whether you are a leader in Gwinnett, Barrow, or beyond, learn why the local church remains "Plan A" for a world that is finally realizing that money and comfort don't satisfy. Stick around until the end for a hilarious "behind-the-scenes" look at the Jasons' friendship, featuring a golf cart mishap and a Nissan Maxima with no brakes.   Key Topics & Keywords Spiritual Awakening: Why cultural darkness is actually waking up the Church The "Ecclesia": Moving from "me and Jesus" to "us and the Body” Youth Ministry Trends: The shift from entertainment-based ministry to spiritual hunger 12Stone Church Future: Updates on the Somerville campus and upcoming men’s ministry The Local Church: Reaching the communities of Gwinnett, Barrow, Walton, and Oconee 📌 Episode Timestamps: 00:00 – Intro: Digging deeper into the Bethlehem Church weekend message. 02:18 – Jason Berry’s heritage: Breaking the cycle of alcoholism through revival. 09:16 – Ending Church Competition: Why the darkness is making us brothers. 15:43 – Preaching in the AI Age: Writing for a local burden, not a social media retweet. 20:14 – The Joshua Generation: Why today’s residents are "hungry and humble." 29:05 – The "Fresh Move": Why the last 36 months have changed everything. 30:11 – The Disney World Analogy: Identifying the hollow promises of secularism. 32:20 – The Future of 12Stone: Expansion, Men’s Ministry, and "Biblical Jesus." 33:50 – Ecclesia over "Me": Why Jesus loves the Church more than the individual "brand." 36:11 – The Golf Cart Story: A hilarious moment in the Jasons’ friendship. 37:55 – Final Blessing: Being a “city on a hill" in your daily life. Episode Resources:  12Stone Church   CTAs: Subscribe & Review: Help us reach more people by subscribing on YouTube or your favorite podcast platform. Share the Mission: Know someone in the Gwinnett or Barrow area? Send them this episode to encourage them in their local faith journey. Join the Conversation: Are you seeing a "fresh stirring" in your own community or workplace? Tell us where you see God moving right now—we’d love to hear your stories! Support the Body: Visit Bethlehem Church or 12Stone Church to find out how you can get involved in the Body of Christ! #BethlehemChurch #12Stone #JasonBritt #JasonBerry #ChurchLeadership #SpiritualRevival #JoshuaGeneration #ChristianPodcast #GwinnettCounty #Ecclesia

  8. Apr 14

    Ep 6: Is Your View of Israel Shaped by the Bible or the News?

    Podcast Description: In this episode of Say That Again, Pastor Jason Britt and Discipleship Director Angela Buckland sit down with biblical guide and historian Mark Crosland for a raw and insightful conversation about the biblical context of current events in the Middle East. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the news headlines or caught in the crossfire of social media rhetoric, this episode is a refreshing invitation to view the world through a "Jesus-centered" lens rather than a geopolitical one. Mark and the team pull back the curtain on the complex history of the Holy Land—from Mark’s upbringing in Jerusalem to the archaeological digs at Shiloh. They move past the surface-level noise to explore the 4,000-year history of the "two brothers," Isaac and Ishmael, and how God’s heart remains steadfast for all people groups in the region. Whether you are navigating the historical evidence of the Abrahamic promise or trying to understand how the Holy Spirit is moving through supernatural dreams in the Middle East today, this episode points the way toward an authentic, kingdom-first perspective. In this episode, we cover: The Root of the Conflict: A 4,000-year history lesson starting with Abraham, Sarah, and Hagar that explains the age-old tension between Isaac and Ishmael. Geopolitics vs. Spiritual Forces: Why our "post-Enlightenment" minds often miss the principalities and demonic forces at play in global division. The Modern State of Israel: An honest look at the spiritual landscape of Israel today and why the vast majority of the population identifies as atheist or agnostic. Dreams and Visions: Miraculous accounts of "the man in the white robe" appearing to people in the West Bank and Iran, leading them to Yeshua. Identity in Christ: How the New Testament shifts the focus from physical geography to a spiritual identity as "Abraham’s offspring" through faith. 📌 Episode Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome: Introduction to the podcast and the mission of digging deeper into current events. 02:35 – Living in Jerusalem: Mark Crosland shares his story of growing up overlooking the Temple Mount and loving both "sides." 05:22 – The 4,000-Year History: Tracing the lineage of Ishmael and Isaac and the origin of the current Middle East tension. 08:39 – The Abrahamic Covenant: A deep dive into Genesis 12 and what it means for "all nations" to be blessed. 13:59 – Image Bearers: Moving past political labels to see every person as a valuable bearer of God's image. 16:38 – Supernatural Encounters: Incredible stories of Muslims and Jews having visions of Jesus in conflict zones. 17:52 – The Spiritual Reality: Discussing the high percentage of agnosticism in Israel and the growth of the Messianic church. 24:56 – Prophecy and the Land: A look at the geography of Israel, fault lines, and the biblical return of the Messiah. 27:02 – Understanding Gaza: Historical context of the 1948 reinstatement of Israel and the reality of the West Bank. 32:45 – The Battle for Air: Why Pastor Jason believes we must recognize the "rulers of the air" in modern division. 39:47 – The Two Kingdoms: Shifting our focus from earthly politics to the Kingdom of God and the Kingdom of Darkness. 41:26 – Seeds of Hope: Practical examples of bridge-building in the West Bank through Christian education. 49:46 – The Ripping of the Veil: How Jewish tradition and the Babylonian Talmud point to the significance of 30 A.D. 55:10 – Hope for the Future: Encouragement for the Church to stand on the side of Jesus and the final victory of the gospel. Episode Resources: Bethlehem Church Website Seeds of Hope Ministry (West Bank Education) Romans 9-11 (Paul’s Teaching on Israel and the Nations) CTAs: Subscribe to catch new episodes and dive deeper into the weekend messages at Bethlehem Church. Like this video if the conversation about viewing things through the "eyes of Jesus" or the "spiritual battle" resonated with you. Share this with a friend who is looking for a biblical perspective on Middle Eastern news. Comment Below: How has your understanding of the biblical history of Israel and Ishmael changed after listening? #PastorJasonBritt #SayThatAgain #BethlehemChurch #MiddleEast #Israel #BiblicalContext #Yeshua #IsaacAndIshmael #Discipleship #Faith #KingdomFirst

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Jason Britt has been the Lead Pastor of Bethlehem Church in Winder, GA since 2011. His heart, along with the heart of Bethlehem Church, is to lead people to discover new life in Christ. Say That Again is a place to cut through the noise, dig deeper, and have honest conversations about real life and real faith. We’ll tackle the questions people are actually asking and talk about what it looks like to follow Jesus when life gets complicated. The reality is that all of us are being discipled by something - our culture, our society, the people around us. We want to be discipled by Truth.

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