The After Call

The After Call

The After Call is a podcast and community for women navigating the messy chaos of life. We’re four women with bold perspectives having candid conversations about career, relationships, burnout, and everything in between. No filters, no perfection – just honest talk and a few laughs along the way.

  1. 3d ago

    Are you owning your power?

    October isn’t just another month. It’s a reset, a power move, and a reality check. Season two kicks off with Nina and Jo asking what “power” really means once you stop performing for everyone else and start making decisions that fit your actual life. The show is back with just the two of them, and they’re getting candid: what changed behind the scenes, how their friendship has evolved, and why this season brings more tough love, more honesty, and more expert guests. Then they dig into October as “power month,” using October theory and the 10/10 portal to look at patterns, pivots, and the spots where people quietly give away their momentum. In this episode: How Jo uses reflection to catch repeating cycles in her personal and professional lifeWhy pivoting the plan can signal growth, not failureHow the law of detachment keeps you committed without clinging to one outcomeNina’s sharp questions on self-accountability and outside expectationsHow to reclaim your time, energy, and choices Power here isn’t politics or control. It’s the small daily decisions that shape your calendar, boundaries, relationships, and confidence. If you’re stretched thin, stuck in old patterns, or ready for a low-pressure reset before the year ends, this one will hit. It’s smart, funny, a little woo-woo, and deeply practical. Go into the next season with more clarity, less guilt, and a lot more power. Featuring: Nina the direct, pragmatic half, bringing tough-love questions and grounded perspective. Jo the reflective, heart-led co-host, sharing candid insights on change, detachment, and reinvention.

    Are you owning your power?
  2. Sep 9

    The Likability Bias.... how to work with it

    What if the thing holding you back at work is not your performance, but whether people like you enough to give you power? This episode breaks down the likability bias, why women are so often judged on personality instead of results, and how to become a likeable badass without shrinking, softening, or apologizing for your ambition. Laurelle, Jo, and Nina kick off with a surprisingly revealing ChatGPT experiment that turns into a sharp conversation about how ambition, competence, and likability get rewarded differently in the workplace. From being labeled "aggressive" for the same behaviour men are praised for, to the hidden cost of getting feedback that starts with "she's brilliant, but...", the trio unpacks how bias shows up in meetings, performance reviews, promotions, and everyday leadership dynamics.You'll discover: Why likability and performance are not treated equally, especially for womenHow status and power are different, and why both matter if you want influenceThe subtle ways feedback on personality can shape your career pathHow body language, eye contact, posture, and even your facial expression affect how you're perceivedWhat the book Likable Badass gets right about being warm, direct, authoritative, and respected at the same timeJo shares how her career taught her to bring bravado into rooms where she was often the only woman or the youngest person present. Nina explains how she uses genuine human connection to disarm tension and build trust. Laurelle reflects on wanting to be liked for reasons that actually matter i.e. consistency, credibility, and support, not for being warm and fuzzy. Together, they get honest about the tradeoffs of being the person who tells the hard truth. This conversation matters because if you do not understand how likability bias works, you can do everything "right" and still get passed over, misread, or stuck with the wrong kind of feedback. But if you can read the room, build status, and stay authentic while doing it, you can lead with more confidence and less second-guessing. Essential listening if you've ever been told to "bring people along," "soften your delivery," or "be more executive" without anyone explaining what that actually means. This one will make you rethink the feedback you've received and maybe even the feedback (and face) you're giving.

  3. Aug 10

    Why Summer Unlocks the Version of You You Forgot

    Summer is doing more than warming us up, it’s pulling us back to themselves. Hosts Jo and Nina unpack why this season feels so powerful, especially for women, and why the real shift might be less about “hot girl summer” and more about reclaiming fun, connection, and the hobbies that make you feel alive. What starts as a conversation about sunny days and better social energy turns into a surprisingly honest look at identity, burnout, and the parts of ourselves that get buried under work, adulthood, and survival mode. Jo shares how returning to rowing, drawing, and creative play has helped her reconnect with who she was before the grind took over. Nina opens up about becoming more adventurous with age, exploring interior design and DJing, and how loss and perspective can change what joy looks like.You’ll discover: Why summer naturally brings out more connection, spontaneity, and female friendshipThe psychology behind returning to childhood hobbies when you’re healingHow “play” can reveal your real identity more than your job title ever couldThe question Jo is asking herself now: if fear and doubt disappeared, what would she actually do?Why hobbies may be better thought of as priorities, not optional extras Jo also shares the unforgettable story of a woman she met in Hawaii, a former executive who walked away from corporate life, built a business around surf and sisterhood, and changed how Jo thinks about ambition, freedom, and reinvention. It’s the kind of story that stays with you long after the episode ends. If you’ve been feeling a little burnt out, a little disconnected, or a little unsure of what still lights you up, this conversation is your reminder to stop treating joy like a reward and start treating it like a necessity. Perfect for anyone in a summer reset, a healing era, or a phase of life where “go play” sounds like the right answer.

  4. Jul 28

    Overcommitting or Underconnecting?

    Unlock the secret to summer freedom: Say no without guilt and embrace just the “f**k yes” moments that truly matter.In this candid chat, the three hosts of The After Call explore the dangerous trap of overcommitting, and how to reclaim your time to prioritize what truly fuels your soul. Discover the surprising reasons behind the summer FOMO frenzy and learn how to set healthy boundaries, whether it's at weddings, social invites, or with the relentless pursuit of doing all the things.We break down practical tactics like “blocking time for no,” turning down obligatory plans, and the power of curiosity-driven socializing. You'll hear stories about navigating old flames, balancing family life, and rethinking what “saying yes” actually looks like, especially when it’s a genuine “hell yes” instead of a polite “maybe.”If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by the summer hype, this episode is your guide to avoiding burnout and making space for effortless enjoyment. Perfect for career-focused women craving authenticity and calm, or anyone tired of overextending but unsure how to say no, and mean it.The key? Recognize that your time is your most valuable asset. When you align your summer actions with your true desires, you unlock a freedom that fuels happiness and keeps you connected to what matters most.Ready to stop overcommitting and start saying yes to your best summer yet? Tune in now for a refreshingly honest look at how to prioritize, set boundaries, and confidently claim your summer holidays. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who’s tired of the summer FOMO cycle and wants to embrace life on their own terms, without guilt or regrets.Let’s make this summer the one where you say the biggest “yes” to yourself.Join us as we break down the art of overcommitment, boundary-setting, and ultimately, mastering the summer of “f**k yes.” #SummerBoundaries #SayNoWithGrace #FOMOFree

  5. Jul 1

    Summer Sessions: Summer Reset

    Most of us go through summer feeling like we're just "getting through" instead of intentionally designing a season of growth and renewal. What if this summer could be your mid-year reset, a chance to realign goals, build new habits, and create memorable moments before the year ends? In this energetic episode of the After Call, Nina, Jo, and Laurelle challenge the notion that summer is just for relaxation, and reveal how it's actually one of the best times to strategically boost your personal and professional life. Jo shares how a mid-year "reality check" with his vision board keeps him on track when workloads lighten and days stretch longer. Laurelle talks about intentionally structuring her summer to balance family, friends, and career goals, including specific tactics like weekly networking lunches and outdoor team building to stay connected. Nina discusses how summer's lighter pace can be perfect for rethinking boundaries, taking advantage of leadership vacuum to elevate your voice, and making space for wonder and spontaneity in your life. You'll discover: how to leverage the summer slowdown to reset your goals, strengthen your network, and boost your mental clarity. We break down simple yet powerful strategies for maintaining work-life harmony without overcommitting, from scheduling walking meetings to organizing casual outdoor hangouts. Plus, the episode reveals surprising insights about company culture during the summer and how you can seize leadership opportunities when others are out of the office. Why does this matter? Because avoiding summer as a strategic season risks missing a crucial window for growth, reflection, and connection. But when you approach it intentionally, summer can transform from a lazy season into a springboard for the rest of your year. Whether you're a busy professional or a parent juggling multiple roles, this episode is your manual to making summer your most productive, rejuvenating season yet.Ready to make this summer truly count? Tune in, get inspired, and start designing a season that leaves you feeling accomplished and energized. Let’s flip the script on summer, it’s your opportunity to reset, reconnect, and wonder.

  6. Jun 9

    GET YOUR PROMOTION GIRL! (we're telling you how)

    Ready to unlock the secret sauce to earning your next promotion, without relying on luck or waiting for the "right" moment? In this eye-opening episode, Jo, Nina, and Laurelle dismantle the myth that the best person automatically advances. Instead, they reveal how visibility, strategic self-promotion, and savvy feedback collection are your ultimate career superpowers. Most people focus solely on doing great work, but neglect the critical element of marketing themselves within their organization. You'll discover why demonstrating your unique strengths, owning your achievements, and proactively managing relationships are key to standing out, and why your company's existing promotion pathways might leave you stranded if you don’t take control. The hosts break down exactly how to ask for the right feedback, tap into hidden advocates, and build a career plan that aligns with your true potential, even if that means creating a role that doesn't currently exist. This episode dives into tactical advice on filling leadership gaps, navigating horizontal moves, and leveraging your unique superpowers. You’ll learn how to articulate your value, approach tough conversations, and position yourself as the inevitable choice for leadership. Whether you're mid-cycle and eyeing that promotion or feeling overlooked in your current role, this episode is your guide to taking ownership of your career growth.Why does it matter? Because without strategic visibility and self-advocacy, you risk remaining invisible, while others are climbing the ladder. Conversely, those who master these tactics unlock opportunities to shape their career trajectory, even in unpredictable markets or organizational shifts. The takeaway? The power to leap into your next role is in your hands. Perfect for professionals determined to accelerate their careers, aspiring leaders, and anyone tired of waiting for their moment. Tune in to learn proven strategies that will make you unforgettable, and unstoppable, in your organization.

  7. Jun 2

    Modern Love Part 2: We still don't agree

    What if your relationship could be redefined by a simple contract?Forget traditional notions of lifelong commitment, what if a five-year renewable relationship agreement is the future of love? In this provocative episode of The After Call, Nina, Laurel, and Jo challenge the status quo, exploring the idea that relationships don't have to be forever to be meaningful and that honesty, boundaries, and flexibility might be the keys to lasting happiness.Imagine consciously choosing to renegotiate your relationship terms every few years, much like a mortgage. Could this approach reduce pressure, eliminate stagnation, and keep the spark alive? Or does it risk minimizing commitment altogether? Join us as we unpack the surprising statistics, like 23% of Canadians open to renewable relationship contracts, and explore the boundary-pushing conversations around love, divorce, and authenticity.You'll discover: Why traditional marriage might not be the only way to build a fulfilling partnershipHow to define what you truly want from love and how to communicate it effectivelyThe importance of having separate outlets, hobbies, and independence within a relationshipWhy "finding the one" might be less important than understanding who elevates and challenges youPlus, debated concepts like "relationship contracts" and thought-provoking reflections on modern loveWhether you're single, dating, or in a long-term partnership, ignoring these ideas could mean missed opportunities for genuine connection and personal growth. This episode is perfect for anyone questioning societal expectations, exploring non-traditional relationship models, or simply seeking to understand contemporary love in a chaotic world.Dive into the innovative mindset that challenges old paradigms and opens the door to more flexible, honest, and empowering relationships.If you're ready for a fresh perspective on love, one that’s less about fairy tales and more about real-world honesty, press play now and join the conversation.

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The After Call is a podcast and community for women navigating the messy chaos of life. We’re four women with bold perspectives having candid conversations about career, relationships, burnout, and everything in between. No filters, no perfection – just honest talk and a few laughs along the way.