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OCD Collective- Laura Mole & Jessica Hayes

OCD therapists talk intrusive thoughts, scary themes, and why your brain can be a dick. If you are looking for reputable information that comes from some good friends then come and join us; Laura Mole and Jessica Hayes. Get involved by emailing ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com and following us on Instagram or TikTok @justcheckingpod to contribute towards features and to request that we cover what you want to hear. Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational information only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support.

  1. 3d ago

    "What if I'm Gay?" When OCD Targets Your Sexuality - Meet Lola

    What does sexual orientation OCD (SO-OCD) actually look like, and how do we treat it? In this shorter vignette episode, Jess and Laura walk through the story of Lola, a heterosexual cis woman whose OCD has latched onto her sexual identity. We unpack what the fear is really about (spoiler: it's not homophobia), the compulsions that keep SO-OCD going, including checking for a "groinal response" (or as we call it, the sexy tingle), and why the line between psychoeducation and reassurance matters so much in therapy. We also cover where we'd start with Lola, worst-case-scenario experiments and the challenges of exposure work, how OCD shrinks your life, neurodivergent adaptations, and what we're actually aiming for in treatment. Plus, Jess breaks into song and there's a listener competition. Whether you're living with OCD, supporting someone who is, or you're a clinician wanting to feel more confident working with sexual orientation OCD, this one's for you. Topics: sexual orientation OCD, SO-OCD, relationship OCD, moral OCD, OCD and sexuality, intrusive thoughts, groinal response, OCD compulsions, ERP, CBT for OCD, reassurance seeking, neurodivergent OCD. Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Time Stamps: 01:00 Introduction and hello 03:20 What is a vignette 03:50 Why we picked a heterosexual cis woman 04:40 Overview of Lola' sexual orientation OCD 07:40 Homophobia fear 12:35 Jess breaks into song 13:40 The world is scary for trans people 14:25 Where would we start with Lola? 18:15 What compulsions we can see 20:00 What is a groinal response, or sexy tingle? 23:45 Psychoeducation vs reassurance  25:50 Listener competition  27:15 Worst case scenario experiment 30:00 General experiment challenges 34:20 OCD shrinks your life 37:10 We lose sight of things in therapy goals 43:10 Neurodivergent adaptions 45:00 General overview of working with SO OCD 48:20 What are we aiming for in therapy? 50:45 Feedback request 51:30 Thank you and goodbye    Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  2. Oct 20

    Mental Contamination OCD Explained - Guilt, Shame & Why ERP Isn't Enough

    Ever felt "dirty" after a memory, a thought, or being around a certain person, even though you haven't touched anything? That's mental contamination, and it's one of the most commonly missed presentations of contamination OCD. In the third episode of our contamination OCD series (following physical and disgust-based contamination), Jess and Laura unpack what mental contamination is, how it can show up, and why it so often goes unrecognised - by sufferers and clinicians alike.  We explore the subtypes, the link with trauma, the central role of guilt and shame, and how treatment differs from standard ERP, including how combining therapeutic approaches can help.  We also look at the measurement scales used to assess mental contamination. Plus: Laura shares some very embarrassing Brain Spam, a Listener Question, this week's Weekly Win, and a new Exposure Lab challenge. Has mental contamination affected you? We'd love to hear your experience - get in touch. Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Time Stamps: 00:40 Episode overview 01:20 Hello and introduction 07:30 Mental contamination plan 08:25 We are winging it 10:50 Brain Spam 14:04 What is mental contamination 16:40 Subtypes of mental contamination 18:00 Trauma link with mental contamination 19:50 Mental contamination is often missed 20:30 How can mental contamination look? 25:35 How treatment differs from ERP 31:10 Mental contamination measurement scales 37:25 Guilt and shame 47:00 Combining types of therapy 48:40 Mental contamination subtypes described 55:00 Call out for experience-sharing 56:25 Listener Question 58:15 Weekly Win 59:29 Exposure Lab 1:01:10 Goodbyes   Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  3. Oct 13

    Pure O, Intrusive Thoughts & Writing Characters with OCD; With Author Louis Urbanowski

    What happens when your intrusive thoughts end up on the page? This week we're joined by author Louis Urbanowski to talk about his experience of "Pure O" OCD, what actually helped him, and how he now uses his obsessive brain in his writing. His books feature characters with OCD. We talk about why the "Pure O" label can be misleading, the hidden mental load of OCD, and the overlap between OCD, neurodivergence and shame. Louis also explains how writing became a place to put intrusive thoughts, why "good enough" is okay, and how a partner can support someone with OCD. We also cover sensory differences, getting diagnosed, the jobs that suit an OCD brain, and Louis' honest reflections on wishing he'd been braver. As always, we finish with a listener question, this week's win and the Exposure Lab. ⚠️ Content note: this episode includes discussion of suicidal thoughts (46:45). If you're struggling, contact Samaritans on 116 123 (UK, free, 24/7). Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Featuring Louis Urbanowski, author To Follow Louis: https://linktr.ee/Urbwrites?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAb21jcAU5vXVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBwZG9mAnNydGMGYXBwX2lkDzU2NzA2NzM0MzM1MjQyNwABpxl_cisqLbDburKiLFcODOMPd1QqiUkPQpAUprJOTGqViB2vS09X4CrH6UnD_aem_ByThqUt8ymBZtrRI85wGEg https://www.instagram.com/urbwrites?cplk=aDBidHUzYm0zZWs1 Time Stamps: 00:39 Introduction to the episode 01:42 Louis introduction to himself 04:54 Brain Spam 10:40 Writing as a place to put intrusive thoughts 13:07 Louis' OCD story 15:12 Good enough is okay 16:45 Writing and OCD 18:45 We all have different needs 22:10 The mental load of OCD 23:20 Misleading Pure O name 25:10 Spinning OCD to be useful 26:25 Neurodivergence cost 29:00 OCD, neurodivergence and shame 34:00 Using an obsessive brain 35:10 Louis changed how he wrote 37:30 Jobs for an OCD brain 39:10 Being yourself and sensory differences 40:00 Diagnoses 43:00 How a partner can support OCD 46:45 Suicidal thoughts 49:40 Louis wishes he was braver 52:07 Louis book descriptions and where to find 52:54 Listener Question 56:20 Weekly Win 58:15 Exposure Lab 1:01:20 Goodbyes Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  4. Oct 6

    Contamination OCD: Not Just a Desire to Wash Your Hands

    Contamination OCD is so much more than liking things clean. In this episode of Just Checking, OCD specialists Jess and Laura unpack what contamination OCD really is, how it differs from everyday cleanliness, and why it can leave people feeling like nowhere is ever truly safe. We explore the different types of contamination fear, the lasting impact of the pandemic, the role of shame, and the hidden secondary consequences that affect daily life and relationships. We also tackle the big worry for many people: what does therapy actually look like? From where ERP (exposure and response prevention) starts to how family accommodation can keep OCD going, we walk through recovery step by step. Plus, Jess shares how she used ERP with her seven-year-old, Laura makes an admission, and we discuss neurodivergence and chronic illness in contamination OCD. Brain Spam brings Laura's spicy intrusive thought and Jess' unfortunate mum fail. We finish with a listener question, our Weekly Win and this week's Exposure Lab challenge. Whether you live with OCD, love someone who does, or support clients as a clinician, this episode will help you understand contamination OCD with warmth, honesty and a bit of humour. Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Resource from the Show: Asbestos fear blog: Asbestos OCD: Understanding the Challenges and Rewards of Treatment – Southampton CBT Therapy Services Time Stamps: 00:37 Episode overview 02:30 Why contamination OCD now 06:40 Brain Spam 14:20 Contamination OCD vs wanting to be clean 20:20 The impact of the pandemic 27:00 Anxiety equation impact on fear 29:05 Types of contamination fear 32:35 Never feeling safe 34:05 Contributory factors to this theme 35:50 The practical impact of this OCD theme 37:40 Shame and contamination fears 38:20 Secondary consequences 41:20 Fears of what therapy can look like 45:50 Where does therapy start? 48:00 How do things look through therapy? 52:28 Family accommodation  56:05 Why OCD therapists love this 58:00 Jess used ERP with her 7 year old 58:55 Laura's admission  1:00:00 Over-correcting 1:02:00 Did you get ill? 1:03:40 Neurodivergence and chronic illness in contamination OCD 1:07:18 Listener Question 1:09:20 Weekly Win 1:10:40 Exposure Lab 1:11:10 Goodbyes  Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  5. Sep 29

    OCD & Depression Together: Why They Co-Occur and What Treatment Really Looks Like

    ⚠️ Trigger warning: this episode discusses suicide and suicidal thoughts. Depression and OCD show up together far more often than people realise, and when they do, everything can feel heavier. In this episode of Just Checking, Jess and Laura look at why OCD and depression so often co-occur, how depression symptoms interact with obsessions and compulsions, and how neurodivergence can shape the picture. We talk honestly about suicide risk and what good safety planning looks like. Then we answer the big clinical question: should you treat depression or OCD first? We cover setting realistic goals for therapy, taking recovery bit by bit, adapting sessions when motivation and energy are low, and why compassionate approaches matter so much when you're living with both. You'll also get Brain Spam, a Weekly Win, a listener question, and a new Exposure Lab challenge. This episode is for anyone living with OCD and depression, their loved ones, and therapists who want to feel more confident working with comorbid presentations. If you're struggling, please reach out. In the UK you can call Samaritans free on 116 123, any time. If you're in immediate danger, call 999 or go to A&E. You can also access emergency mental health support by selecting option 2 after calling NHS111 in the UK.  Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Time Stamps: 00:40 Introduction and trigger warning 01:48 Brain Spam 10:38 Depression and OCD comorbidity 13:00 Why does it co-occur? 16:00 Depression symptoms and OCD 19:00 Neurodivergence impact 20:02 How OCD and depression presents together 25:10 Suicide and risk 28:10 Safety planning 34:30 What does treatment look like? 34:50 Goals for therapy 38:20 Treatment order for depression and OCD 40:10 Bit by bit 43:40 Adaptions to sessions 45:00 Compassionate approaches 49:50 Laura's message to your voice 52:00 Plans for future episodes 54:40 Weekly Win 55:10 Listener Question 57:30 Exposure Lab 1:02:15 Laura's message to her mum 1:03:00 Goodbyes Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Resources: Depression video: https://youtu.be/XiCrniLQGYc?si=Z0kS2IYsGJOKhjnT Body doubling app: dubbii | dubbiiSuicide safety plan: Email jess@reimaginetherapy.co.uk Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  6. Sep 22

    Sensorimotor OCD Treatment: ERP, Metacognitive Therapy & Self-Compassion with Andy and Ferne from the Anxious Academy

    Sensorimotor OCD; where you get stuck noticing your breathing, blinking, thinking, or other automatic bodily processes. It can feel relentless and impossible to switch off.  In this episode of Just Checking, we're joined by Andy and Ferne from the Anxious Academy to explore what sensorimotor OCD is, why it can feel like the "worst" OCD theme, and how to treat it. We cover common sensorimotor compulsions, when reassurance becomes a compulsion, and why loss of certainty and control drives the cycle. Andy and Ferne share their lived experience, and we look at why response prevention often matters more than exposure with this theme. We also discuss compassion work, dropping perfectionism, metacognitive therapy for OCD, exposures for metacognitive beliefs, and experiments for mental compulsions. We also cover green and red flags in OCD programmes, neurodivergent considerations, what recovery really looks like, the biggest recovery roadblocks, and a common mistake therapists make with this presentation. If you're living with OCD, supporting someone who is, or you're a therapist wanting to understand this theme better, this one's for you. Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Featuring Andrew Mellish and Ferne Manniex from Anxious Academy  Anxious Academy Website: https://theanxiousacademy.co.uk/  Time Stamps: 00:00 Anxious Academy introduction 02:45 Introduction to the episode 05:40 Brain Spam 11:10 What is sensorimotor OCD? 17:00 Losing a sense of certainty and control 18:05 Common sensorimotor compulsions  21:00 When validation and assurance changes to reassurance  23:45 Why Ferne struggled with sensorimotor themes 24:35 How sensorimotor OCD impacted Andy 25:25 Is this the 'worst' OCD theme? 28:05 Focusing more on response prevention than exposure  29:00 Compassion work  34:35 Dropping the perfectionism 36:20 Metacognitive therapy for OCD 39:30 Metacognitive awareness 40:25 Exposures for metacognitive beliefs  43:40 Experiments for mental compulsions 44:35 Metacognitive Training  45:55 Red flags in OCD programmes 47:40 OCD compulsions involving OCD research 48:35 Summary of what OCD therapy green flags are 49:50 Neurodivergent considerations 58:20 What does recovery look like? 1:01:25 Biggest recovery roadblocks  1:05:30 Jess Donald Trump toddler analogy  1:06:45 Common therapist mistake with this 1:12:26 Weekly Win 1:18:58 Exposure Lab 1:24:21 Goodbyes Resources: Andy's recommended Youtube attention videos: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLx0h9GH33gV0ItzP_nOuJPVIXLzh3vDBo&si=YWLWilOUbGtx4VZX Anxious Academy social media: @theanxiousacademy Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  7. Sep 15

    The Magical Thinking OCD Client: A Full Assessment-to-Treatment Walkthrough Minipod

    Ever wondered what OCD therapy actually looks like from the inside? In this mini vignette, we build a fake client, Jamie, presenting with magical thinking OCD, and walk through the whole clinical journey: assessment, formulation, and treatment, step by step.  We cover thought-action fusion, excessive responsibility, "just right" challenges, memory manipulation, and how to bring family into the support system- all with the warmth and compassion Theory A/Theory B deserves.  Whether you're a clinician wanting a practical walkthrough or someone with OCD wanting to understand what therapy might involve, this one's for you. Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Edited by Christian Nickson Time Stamps: 00:00 Introduction chat 03:18 What is magical thinking? 05:30 Laura's button analogy 07:00 Jamie's story 14:15 Controversial start to therapy 15:00 What the assessment will look into 18:45 Thought Action Fusion 19:08 Laura's practical exercise 22:00 Challenging the concepts first, not the OCD 25:00 Challenging excessive responsibility 27:50 Just right challenges 31:30 Memory manipulation 32:20 How Jamie's family can get involved 35:00 Phrases for OCD support 40:25 Theory A, Theory B with compassion 41:35 Acceptance for the thoughts 43:25 Psychosis fears 45:30 Getting involved and extra episodes 48:17 Papyrus shout out 49:00 Goodbyes    Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

  8. Sep 8

    Mental Compulsions & Rumination: Breaking the Loop with Jess Marriner

    Mental compulsions can be invisible, exhausting, and easy to miss- even for clinicians. In this episode, Jess and Laura sit down with Jess Marriner (creator of Breaking the Loop) to unpack what mental compulsions and rumination actually look like, how they differ from ordinary thinking, and why "just doing the exposure" doesn't always shift underlying beliefs. They cover Pure O, whether OCD can exist without the "O," how to spot invisible compulsions in the therapy room, and what ERP and CBT look like when the compulsions are all happening inside someone's head.  Plus: attention training, planned vs unplanned exposure, stress management and OCD, and a Jess M discount code you won't want to miss. Perfect for anyone with OCD, clinicians working with OCD clients, or anyone who's ever wondered "is this rumination or just... thinking?” Podcast by: Laura Mole, Adv. Dip, MBACP OCD specialist therapist and Jessica Hayes, Msc PGDip, BABCP Accred OCD and perinatal specialist therapist Featuring Jess Marriner, BABCP Accred OCD and anxiety specialist therapist Follow Jess Marriner at @jessmarrinertherapy and access her Break the Loop at: Break The Loop Use the discount code: justchecking20 at checkout for 20% discount Time Stamps: 00:38 Episode overview 01:50 Introductions and catch up 06:50 Brain Spam 10:20 Overview of Jess M and Break the Loop 15:40 What do mental compulsions look like? 18:42 What rumination looks like 21:00 Thoughts vs thinking  25:50 Why doing the thing doesn't change beliefs sometimes  28:40 How can clinicians ask about mental compulsions  31:10 What is pure O?  32:40 Can we have OCD without the 'O'? 36:40 Jess H book sidebar 41:05 How does ERP or CBT look for invisible compulsions? 45:00 Attention training first 46:30 Unplanned and deliberate ERP 53:00 Stress management and OCD 57:35 The OCD game  58:00 Jess M discount code 1:00:00 Weekly Win 1:01:04 Exposure Lab 1:05:20 Goodbyes   Get in Touch: Got intrusive thoughts to share or questions for us: Email us at ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com Follow us on Instagram and Tiktok: @justcheckingpod For our individual OCD pages, you can find Laura on Tiktok and Instagram as @ocdtherapylaura and Jess as @jess_helps_your_ocd Please check out our privacy policy: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YJZ4Sdh4OpxjRR9twGY6dOMH9n55Mq6qTqLBxOtN3Fw/edit?usp=sharing  Content Warnings: We do reference some thoughts that people may find distressing so please listen with caution if this is you, and take a break if you need to.  Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational content only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support, please contact a mental health professional for advice and support.

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OCD therapists talk intrusive thoughts, scary themes, and why your brain can be a dick. If you are looking for reputable information that comes from some good friends then come and join us; Laura Mole and Jessica Hayes. Get involved by emailing ocdcollectiveuk@gmail.com and following us on Instagram or TikTok @justcheckingpod to contribute towards features and to request that we cover what you want to hear. Disclaimer: This podcast provides educational information only and is not a substitute for professional mental health support.

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