We go deep into two healthcare true crime cases that raise completely different questions about trust, evidence, and the systems surrounding patient care. First, Caitlin breaks down Michael Swango, the physician linked to as many as 60 deaths who repeatedly returned to medicine through forged records and new identities. Then Karlie revisits the Lucy Letby conviction from a nurse’s perspective, including the circumstantial evidence, journal entries, Facebook searches, missing expert witnesses, and whether the case was truly proven beyond a reasonable doubt. LISTEN, WATCH, FOLLOW, AND SEND US YOUR STORIES https://theeredit.com Find The ER Edit episodes, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube, Instagram, TikTok, The Whisper Line, host links, and business contact in one place. Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4Ab8DoFQ3hTyQvIE69O2YR?si=fea43e1cda3140f0 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-er-edit/id1884089840 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theERedit Instagram: @theERedit_ TikTok: @theERedit Business inquiries: theeredit@gmail.com The views and opinions expressed in this episode are those of Caitlin Armstrong and Karlie Tooley and do not represent the views, policies, or positions of their current or former employers, hospitals, healthcare organizations, or any affiliated institutions. This podcast is for entertainment and general discussion purposes only and should not be considered medical advice. 00:00 The Doctor Linked to 60 Deaths 00:25 True Crime Is Back 01:11 Michael Swango’s Path Into Medicine 03:51 Early Red Flags and Faked Clinical Work 06:42 Patients Start Dying at Ohio State 09:05 Coworkers Poisoned With Arsenic 11:15 Convicted, Released, and Still Practicing 12:36 A New Name and Forged Credentials 15:15 More Deaths, Zimbabwe, and the Final Arrest 18:54 How Did He Keep Getting Away With It? 26:58 Reexamining the Lucy Letby Case 31:21 Circumstantial Evidence and the Shift Grid 34:17 Journal Entries, Facebook Searches, and Context 38:24 The Verdict and the Reasonable Doubt Problem 46:06 Defense Failures, Appeals, and What Justice Means