Agree to Disagree About Gender

Laura T and Yvette N

Laura is an integrated trans woman. Yvette is gender critical. They disagree on a lot when it comes to sex and gender, but agree it's better to talk about their differences and try to understand each other's perspective, rather than to assume the worst about each other. Every week, they will have an open and civil discussion about current events pertaining to sex, gender and trans issues, and will have a civil and respectful discussion about contentious areas of disagreement

  1. Episode 1

    Episode 1 - Single Sex Spaces

    In this first episode, Laura and Yvette tackle one of the most contentious issues in the gender debate: Are single sex spaces for women born women only, or is there a way that trans women can be accepted. Laura shares her experiences of being welcomed and included in these spaces for the last 25 years, and why being told she no longer belongs feels like a threat to her dignity. Yvette talks about how these spaces are intended to be sanctuaries for violence, and in particular, from the men who are responsible for the overwhelming majority of violence and harassment of women. More importantly, Yvette and Laura seek to model how to talk about issues where there is a broad divide in opinion, without assuming the worst of intentions.

    Episode 1 - Single Sex Spaces

  2. Episode 2

    Episode 2 - Pediatric Medical Transition

    In their second episode, Laura and Yvette have a heartfelt conversation about their concerns about pediatric medical transition. Laura is a trans woman who believes that access to medical transition can rescue some children from the horrors of dysphoria. Yvette has grave concerns about transition being a false promise of salvation from difficult and complicated childhoods. We have created this podcast because we believe it is important for well-meaning and empathic people who have arrived at different positions on contentious issues regarding gender to be able to have open and honest dialogue, and even more important for curious and caring people to hear

    Episode 2 - Pediatric Medical Transition

  3. Episode 3

    Episode 3 - Trans Sports and The Supreme Court

    In their third episode, Laura and Yvette dig deep on Little vs Hecox, and West Virginia vs BPJ, two cases that will be argued in front of the Supreme Court today. Laura is a trans woman who believes that trans women should be allowed to play on teams with their female peers under certain conditions whereas Yvette believes women's team are the domain of biologic women. We also discuss the broader implications of these cases beyond the playing field, both in terms of how sex and gender are defined under the law, and the potential that this decision could be a gateway to broader restrictions on the trans community We have created this podcast because we believe it is important for well-meaning and empathic people who have arrived at different positions on contentious issues regarding gender to be able to have open and honest dialogue, and even more important for curious and caring people to hear

    Episode 3 - Trans Sports and The Supreme Court

  4. Episode 4

    Episode 4 - Alex Byrne - The Trouble with Gender

    In this week's episode, Laura and Yvette sit down with Dr. Alex Byrne, the Laurance S. Rockefeller Professor of Philosophy at MIT. His most recent book is Trouble with Gender: Sex Facts, Gender Fictions. In that book, he provides a philosophical underpinning on a narrow definition of "man" and "woman", as well as justification for discarding the concept of gender. He is also one of the 9 authors of the controversial HHS Report "Treatment for Pediatric Gender Dysphoria: Review of Evidence and Best Practices", which supports the complete banning of access to medical and surgical therapies for children and adolescents with gender dysphoria, and even more contentiously recommends against any further research evaluating the potential efficacy of medical interventions. In this conversation, we discuss the challenges with applying a narrow definition of male/female and man/woman in the real world, whether this precludes treating trans people with respect, and what responsibilitis academics have when their positions are likely to be weaponized. In the second half, we shift our focus to the HHS report, talking about his hesitations with getting involved with the Trump and Kennedy-led HHS, on the secrecy surrounding the authorship, and on why he believes that further research in this area is unethical to pursue

    Episode 4 - Alex Byrne - The Trouble with Gender

  5. Episode 5

    Episode 5 - The PATHWAYS Trial

    Laura wants more data about the effectiveness of puberty blockers. Yvette has seen enough They disagree about most things, but they've agreed to talk about it In this episode, they do a comprehensive review of the recently launched UK Pathways Trial, which seeks to determine if puberty blockers have a role to play in the management of young people with gender incongruence. However, many question have been raised about its design, whether it is ethical, or whether it is even necessary. Plus stay tuned to the end for a special Easter Egg!

    Episode 5 - The PATHWAYS Trial

  6. Episode 6

    Episode 6 - A Conversation with Ben Ryan

    In Episode 6. Laura and Yvette sit down with investigative reporter Ben Ryan to hear his perspectives on pediatric gender medicine, his coverage of the 1st medical malpractice trial where a regretful detransitioner prevailed against her care team, and his sympathies towards the trans community.

    Episode 6 - A Conversation with Ben Ryan

  7. Episode 7

    Episode 7 - The Trans Military Bans - A Conversation with Jo Ellis

    In Episode 7. Laura and Yvette sit down with former Virginia National Guard Black Hawk helicopter plot, aspiring comedian, and trans infuencer Jo Ellis to discuss the impact and rationale of the US trans military ban, how conservatism shapes her approach to trans-advocacy, and on the transformative power of dick jokes

    Episode 7 - The Trans Military Bans - A Conversation with Jo Ellis

  8. Episode 8

    Episode 8 - Destigmatizing Autogynephilia with Dr. James Morandini

    On this episode, sexologist Dr. James Morandini talks about the concept of autogynephilia, how it relates (and doesn't relate) to the drive to transition, and what we can do to help people recognize it as non-pathological human variation in sexual practice.

    Episode 8 - Destigmatizing Autogynephilia with Dr. James Morandini
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Laura is an integrated trans woman. Yvette is gender critical. They disagree on a lot when it comes to sex and gender, but agree it's better to talk about their differences and try to understand each other's perspective, rather than to assume the worst about each other. Every week, they will have an open and civil discussion about current events pertaining to sex, gender and trans issues, and will have a civil and respectful discussion about contentious areas of disagreement

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