Don't Freak Out

Marco Palou

Don’t Freak Out, Being human in the future that came. Marco Palou makes things by hand with artists, scientists, futurists, and cultural thinkers while exploring creativity, identity, and meaning in a world being rewritten by technology. New episodes every Tuesday. marcopalou.substack.com

  1. 4d ago

    What Does a City Ask of a Building? | Stanley Saitowitz

    YouTube: https://youtu.be/KGPVjDT-yvw Spotify: Listen on SpotifyApple Podcasts: Listen on Apple PodcastsStanley’s website: Natoma Architects Why would you design differently in San Francisco than in Berkeley? NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW.Amazon: HOMO ARTIS on AmazonGet the book and the first 4 chapters free: HOMO ARTIS websiteSubscribe to the podcast on Substack: Don’t Freak Out on Substack Marco Palou, author of HOMO ARTIS, sits down with Stanley Saitowitz, founding partner and design lead at Natoma Architects and professor emeritus of architecture at UC Berkeley. On Don’t Freak Out, they talk about designing apartments for people Stanley will never meet, deciding how a house should frame a view, and what happens when a house he designed takes on a new life. In this episode * Why the buildings of San Francisco and the gardens of Berkeley call for different designs. * How Stanley weighs a developer’s brief against the needs of the people who will live in the apartments. * How he uses light and frames a panorama in a house on Potrero Hill. * What happens to concrete, glass and cladding as a building ages. * How a house he designed outside Johannesburg became a place for architecture students to work and attend seminars. About Stanley Saitowitz Stanley Saitowitz leads the design practice he co-founded at Natoma Architects and is professor emeritus of architecture at UC Berkeley, where he taught for three decades. Born in Johannesburg, he studied architecture at the University of the Witwatersrand before earning his master’s at Berkeley. His work ranges from houses and apartment buildings to museums and places of worship. His projects include the Tampa Museum of Art and the New England Holocaust Memorial in Boston. His book Lectures Writings Pictures gathers lectures, essays and photographs from decades of teaching and architectural practice. Natoma Architects: Natoma ArchitectsUC Berkeley: Stanley’s UC Berkeley profileLectures Writings Pictures: Lectures Writings Pictures About Don’t Freak Out Being human in the future that came. Don’t Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: “Don’t freak out...” About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don’t Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now.Website: HOMO ARTIS websiteMarco Palou: Marco Palou’s websiteInstagram: @marcopalouBaby Yors: @babyyorsSubstack: Marco Palou on Substack Follow Don’t Freak Out Instagram: @dontfreakoutpodcastSubstack: Don’t Freak Out on SubstackYouTube: Don’t Freak Out on YouTube Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Opening choir: Silverlake Voices Rock Choir Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

    What Does a City Ask of a Building? | Stanley Saitowitz

  2. Nov 4

    Stop Waiting for Permission | Danielle Baskin

    YouTube: https://youtu.be/6r3Uy2Lb5cU Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033WXTU8zVolaWr23weegH Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-freak-out/id6794541000 What would you make if you stopped waiting for permission? Danielle’s website: https://daniellebaskin.com NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8SR2NMR Get the book and the first 4 chapters free: https://homoartis.com Subscribe to the podcast on Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out Marco Palou, author of HOMO ARTIS, sits down in Oakland with Danielle Baskin, artist, designer and entrepreneur. Danielle carves a wooden spoon while Marco paints watercolor creatures. On this episode of Don’t Freak Out, they follow the path from painted bicycle helmets to tarot software, discuss her funerals for expired domains, and explore how a citywide puzzle can turn strangers into performers. A conversation about following unusual ideas and inviting other people into them. In this episode - How painting bicycle helmets led to tarot and Moonlight - Why she created a graveyard for expired domain names - The handmade Spirit Halloween sign she hung over a Google office - A citywide puzzle that turns its players into theater performers - Flight Roulette, where a group chooses one traveler’s destination at the airport - Why painting all day became a dream she needed to step away from About Danielle Baskin Danielle Baskin is a San Francisco artist, designer and entrepreneur who makes surreal objects, companies and participatory experiences. She created Maskalike, co-created the voice app Dialup, and builds Moonlight, a collaborative tarot platform. Her projects include stained-glass airplane windows, hand-painted bicycle helmets, a graveyard for expired domain names and a company that put logos on fruit. She also co-runs Pursuit, a citywide puzzle game. Across software, physical objects and live events, her work uses humor and surprise to bring people together and turn ordinary situations into shared adventures. Her recent projects include the airport gathering Flight Roulette and Fidget Camp. Website: https://daniellebaskin.com Moonlight: https://moonlight.world X: https://twitter.com/djbaskin Instagram: @djbaskin TikTok: @djbaskin Mentioned in this episode Moonlight: https://moonlight.world Dialup: https://dialup.com Goodbye.Domains: https://goodbye.domains Nathan Fielder’s The Rehearsal About Don’t Freak Out Being human in the future that came. Don’t Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: “Don’t freak out...” About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don’t Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now. Website: https://homoartis.com Marco Palou: https://marcopalou.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcopalou Baby Yors: https://www.instagram.com/babyyors Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com Follow Don’t Freak Out Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontfreakoutpodcast Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgR6xuA9wYeFjXXZAsKKfw Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

    Stop Waiting for Permission | Danielle Baskin

  3. Oct 29

    Making Monsters, Staying Human | Phil Tippett

    Hello humans. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/-KJbBcx8qUQ Listen on Spotify · Apple Podcasts What makes a creature feel alive, whether it is built by hand or animated on a computer? A note on the sound: our main audio recording stopped working, so we used the camera audio and cleaned it up as much as we could. It isn’t our usual sound quality. We recorded this on Phil’s birthday, and I’m very grateful he spent part of it with us. NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8SR2NMR Get the book and the first 4 chapters free: https://homoartis.com Subscribe to the podcast on Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out Marco Palou (Baby Yors), author of HOMO ARTIS, sits down with two-time Academy Award winner Phil Tippett. On this episode of Don’t Freak Out, they talk about making the creatures of Star Wars, the painful move to CGI on Jurassic Park, finding the ending of Mad God and experimenting with AI. There are birthday cookies, too. In this episode - How Ray Harryhausen sent a young Phil toward dinosaurs, drawing and an 8mm camera. - How the Star Wars cantina creatures led to its stop-motion chess scene. - Why Jurassic Park needed the physical instincts of stop-motion animators. - How a magazine on an airplane and Groucho Marx helped Phil finish Mad God. - Why he still experiments with AI despite its frustrating limits as a filmmaking tool. - What changes when an experienced crew can play with an idea together. About Phil Tippett Phil Tippett is a filmmaker, animator and visual effects artist whose creatures helped shape Star Wars, Jurassic Park, RoboCop and Starship Troopers. He won Academy Awards for Return of the Jedi and Jurassic Park, and founded Tippett Studio in 1984. His career bridges stop motion, go motion and digital character animation. Alongside his work on studio films, he created Mad God, a feature made over three decades. His independent work draws on sculpture, painting and filmmaking to build unsettling worlds, with the physical performance and emotional presence of a creature always at the center. Art and films: https://philtippettart.com/ Studio: https://www.tippett.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/madphilg/ Mentioned in this episode Star Wars, Jurassic Park, Starship Troopers and Mad God; Ray Harryhausen, Hieronymus Bosch, Francisco Goya, Stanley Kubrick and Groucho Marx. Phil’s films and art: https://philtippettart.com/ About Don’t Freak Out Being human in the future that came. Don’t Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: “Don’t freak out...” About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don’t Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now. Website: https://homoartis.com Marco Palou: https://marcopalou.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcopalou Baby Yors: https://www.instagram.com/babyyors Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com Follow Don’t Freak Out Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontfreakoutpodcast Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgR6xuA9wYeFjXXZAsKKfw Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

    Making Monsters, Staying Human | Phil Tippett

  4. Oct 23 ·  Bonus

    Come inside SCREAM: a Halloween listening party

    Hello humans. Come listen with me. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/VUNuSXQL6P0 For this Don’t Freak Out Halloween special, I’m taking you inside SCREAM, the album I released as Baby Yors. We listen to all seven songs, and I tell you where they came from. Listen everywhere Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033WXTU8zVolaWr23weegH Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-freak-out/id6794541000 NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW.Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8SR2NMRGet the book and the first 4 chapters free: https://homoartis.com Subscribe to the podcast on Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out I grew up in Argentina watching Halloween in American movies. My friends and I decided to go trick-or-treating anyway. Years later, here I am with a Halloween album and quite a few stories to tell. There’s a frightening encounter in Harlem behind Haunted House. A phone and a pair of golden feet in Pies de Oro. The need to disagree in Friction. A voice message from Rose McGowan that became part of Monte y Culebra. A tribute to David Lynch. A door into Dark Room Cha Cha. And Pixel Void, where the album meets HOMO ARTIS. SCREAM is a tech-horror album, but the conversation keeps coming back to being alive: paying attention, loving people, making something, and deciding what we want all this technology to help us do. Put it on, listen with me, and tell me which song stays with you. Listen to the album SCREAM on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/album/6IdIRNgN7Cw5teaSydJaCl SCREAM on Apple Music: https://music.apple.com/us/album/scream/6771648069 Happy Halloween,Marco / Baby Yors Next on Don’t Freak Out: Phil Tippett, the two-time Academy Award-winning visual-effects artist whose work helped bring Star Wars and Jurassic Park to life. About Don’t Freak Out Don’t Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: “Don’t freak out...” About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don’t Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now. Website: https://homoartis.com Marco Palou: https://marcopalou.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcopalouBaby Yors: https://www.instagram.com/babyyorsSubstack: Follow Don’t Freak Out Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontfreakoutpodcastSubstack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-outYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgR6xuA9wYeFjXXZAsKKfw Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

  5. Oct 21

    Who Told You You Can't Sing? | Indre Viskontas, Neuroscientist

    Watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/SNNmTEUHDzA Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033WXTU8zVolaWr23weegH Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-freak-out/id6794541000 Who told you that you couldn't sing, and how much of that judgment have you mistaken for a fact? Neuroscientist and opera singer Indre Viskontas joins Marco Palou (Baby Yors), author of HOMO ARTIS, on Don't Freak Out. NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8SR2NMR Get the book and the first 4 chapters free: https://homoartis.com While making art together in Oakland, Indre and Marco explore the judgments that silence us, the fear of creating, and what learning means when AI can do more of the work. In this episode: - Finding your voice after rejection - Why picking something up quickly isn't always lasting learning - Maria Callas and the power of an imperfect voice - Creativity anxiety and the difference between fear and ability - Writing, handwriting and finding something of your own to say About Indre Viskontas Indre Viskontas is a cognitive neuroscientist, opera singer and opera stage director. She is Associate Professor of Psychology at the University of San Francisco, where she directs the Creative Brain Lab and studies memory, creativity and the factors that help or hinder creative work. Her career also spans musical performance, opera direction and public science communication. She is the author of How Music Can Make You Better and has created or hosted podcasts including Inquiring Minds, Cadence and Radiant Minds: The World of Oliver Sacks. She holds a PhD in cognitive neuroscience from UCLA and a Master of Music from the San Francisco Conservatory of Music. Indre: https://www.indreviskontas.com/ Creative Brain Lab: https://www.indreviskontas.com/viskontas-lab How Music Can Make You Better: https://www.chroniclebooks.com/products/how-music-can-make-you-better About Don't Freak Out Don't Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: "Don't freak out..." About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don't Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now. Website: https://homoartis.com Marco Palou: https://marcopalou.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcopalou Baby Yors: https://www.instagram.com/babyyors Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com Follow Don't Freak Out Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontfreakoutpodcast Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgR6xuA9wYeFjXXZAsKKfw Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

    Who Told You You Can't Sing? | Indre Viskontas, Neuroscientist

  6. Oct 13

    EP 11: When Freedom Becomes a Trap | Fred Turner, Stanford Professor

    Watch on YouTube · Listen on Spotify · Listen on Apple Podcasts What if the dream of being completely free is making it harder to live together? Stanford professor Fred Turner joins Marco Palou (Baby Yors), author of HOMO ARTIS, on the Don't Freak Out podcast. NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW. Amazon Get the book and the first 4 chapters free Subscribe to the podcast on Substack In Oakland, a trip through Fred's CD collection becomes a question about everything Spotify never suggests. Milton's devil helps explain why a feed can be beautiful and impossible to leave. And the communes Fred thought would offer relief after a book about war lead him to a surprising answer: his idea of utopia is a hospital. From ChatGPT to Burning Man, they ask what freedom needs if we're going to share a world. In this episode What Fred stopped hearing on Spotify, and how John Cage changed his ears Milton's devil and the feed that keeps us hungry Why feeling seen by ChatGPT can confuse a product with a relationship Showing the creative process, performing authenticity, and deciding whom to trust Queer media cultures, self-presentation, and the freedoms they opened up "Rule by cool" in communes, and why Fred argues that freedom needs institutions Burning Man, Google, and why Fred's idea of utopia is a hospital About Fred Turner Fred Turner is the Harry and Norman Chandler Professor of Communication at Stanford University, where he studies media, technology and American cultural life. His books include From Counterculture to Cyberculture, The Democratic Surround and Echoes of Combat. With photographer Mary Beth Meehan, he coauthored Seeing Silicon Valley: Life Inside a Fraying America. His research connects subjects as varied as communal living, digital utopianism and Burning Man. A former journalist and Guggenheim Fellow, he continues to write for publications in the United States and Europe. He earned his doctorate in Communication at the University of California, San Diego. Fred Turner Books Stanford Mentioned in this episode John Milton, Paradise Lost; T.S. Eliot; W.H. Auden; Sylvia Plath, Winter Trees; Ernest Hemingway; John Cage Whole Earth Catalog; Howard Rheingold and the WELL; RuPaul; Joshua Gamson; Burning Man About Don't Freak Out Don't Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: "Don't freak out..." About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don't Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now. Website Marco Palou Instagram Baby Yors Substack Follow Don't Freak Out Instagram Substack YouTube Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

  7. Oct 7

    EP 10: The Only Instrument Made Out of Human | Pamela Z, Composer & Media Artist

    Watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/T8Xv8dTqWkM Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033WXTU8zVolaWr23weegH Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dont-freak-out/id6794541000 Why does a distorted voice disturb you when a distorted violin only sounds interesting? NEW BOOK: HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8SR2NMR Get the book and the first 4 chapters free: https://homoartis.com Subscribe to the podcast on Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out Marco Palou, author of HOMO ARTIS, sits down in Oakland with composer and media artist Pamela Z. While they work with clay, Pamela talks about making music from voices, lists and the imperfect timing of machines. She recalls the Tower Records catalog that became one of her favorite pieces, and the piece she could no longer perform when a laptop replaced her rack of digital delays. The conversation moves from those happy accidents to deep fakes, AI slop and the peculiar sympathy she feels for a driverless car. In this episode - Why altering a voice feels different from distorting another instrument - The catalog page that became Pop Titles You, and why she prefers lists to rhymes - Studying opera while playing clubs, with one teacher's encouragement - What became easier when her gear became a laptop, and what she could no longer perform - The musical accidents she misses from old digital delays, and how she recreates their imperfect timing - What tech did to the word "multimedia", and why she dislikes "creative" as a noun - Deep fakes, AI slop, feeling sorry for Waymos, and the ChatGPT rewrite that called SoMa "trendy hip" Mentioned in this episode Pop Titles You, Baggage Allowance and Pamela's piece 85 for Pauline Oliveros KGNU Boulder and her program The Tuesday Afternoon Sound Alternative Max/MSP, the Lexicon 32-second delay, Pro Tools, FileMaker Bang on a Can All-Stars and Steven Schick; Ensemble for These Times; Roomful of Teeth Composer Tina Tallon Boots Riley, I Love Boosters (the tipping-building joke) The Millennium Tower, San Francisco About Pamela Z Pamela Z is a composer, performer and media artist whose work brings together the human voice, live electronics, sampled sounds and video. Through real-time vocal processing and controllers activated by physical gestures, she creates layered performances that move between experimental vocal techniques and operatic singing. Her practice includes concerts, multimedia productions and sound and video installations. She has written scores for dance, film and ensembles including Kronos Quartet and Eighth Blackbird. Her work has appeared at MoMA and the Venice and Dakar biennales. Her honors include the Rome Prize, Berlin Prize, a Guggenheim Fellowship and the MIT McDermott Award. She studied music at the University of Colorado Boulder. Pamela Z: https://pamelaz.com Simultaneous (album, Other Minds Records): https://www.otherminds.org/recording/simultaneous/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/PamelaZed Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamelazed About Don't Freak Out Don't Freak Out is a podcast about being human in the future that came. Each episode, artist and author Marco Palou sits down with a poet, scientist, composer, founder or performer and makes something with them while they talk: a drawing, a watercolor, a page of play-doh. The conversations are about creativity, technology and the parts of us no machine can do, and every guest finishes the same sentence before they leave: "Don't freak out..." About Marco Palou Marco Palou is an Argentine artist, author and director working across music, film, visual art and writing. Born in Jujuy, he left Argentina for New York at 18 on a ballet scholarship and has built a career without a traditional job, through brand partnerships, creative collaborations and work released on every platform. He records and performs music as Baby Yors, runs Amarte Labs and Palou Press in Los Angeles, and hosts Don't Freak Out. His book HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is out now. Website: https://homoartis.com Marco Palou: https://marcopalou.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcopalou Baby Yors: https://www.instagram.com/babyyors Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com Follow Don't Freak Out Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dontfreakoutpodcast Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFgR6xuA9wYeFjXXZAsKKfw Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

  8. Sep 23

    EP 09: If You Are Breathing, Help Someone | Jane Hirshfield, Poet

    Watch on YouTube: What does a poet who spent three years in a Zen monastery know about not knowing? HOMO ARTIS: A Manifesto for Creation in the Age of AI is OUT NOW. Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0H8SR2NMR Get the book and the first 4 chapters free: https://homoartis.comhttps://poetsforscience.org Subscribe to the podcast on Substack: https://marcopalou.substack.com/s/dont-freak-out Marco Palou, author of HOMO ARTIS, sits down in San Francisco with Jane Hirshfield, poet, co-founder of Poets for Science and author of The Asking: New and Selected Poems. On this episode of Don’t Freak Out, a podcast about being human in the future that came, Jane reads four poems, explains why she starts every poem without knowing what it will become, and lands on the two words she would give anyone who is freaking out: help someone. You’ll learn: * Why “don’t know mind” is where all the possibility lives * What three years of monastic silence did to her relationship with music * When a meal, a paint color or a dovetail joint stops being practical and becomes art * Why a poem doesn’t fix grief but changes your relationship to it * What happened when her students asked her to stop saying “hit the bell” * Why the difficult emotions are information you can’t afford to suppress Poems read in this episode, all from The Asking: “My Life Was the Size of My Life” · “I moved my chair into sun” · “Late Prayer” · “The Weighing” About Jane Hirshfield Jane Hirshfield is the author of ten poetry collections, including The Asking: New & Selected Poems, Ledger, and The Beauty, long-listed for the National Book Award, plus two essay collections, Nine Gates and Ten Windows, and four books of translation. The Washington Post has placed her poems “among the modern masters,” and her work has been set to music by John Adams and Philip Glass. She was elected a Chancellor of the Academy of American Poets in 2012 and to the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2019, and received the American Academy of Arts and Letters Award in 2026. In 2017 she co-founded Poets for Science, the traveling installation housed with the Wick Poetry Center at Kent State University and launched at the first March for Science in Washington. She trained for years in Soto Zen, including three at Tassajara, and lives in the Bay Area. Jane Hirshfield on Substack: The Asking: New & Selected Poems: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/715681/the-asking-by-jane-hirshfield/ Poets for Science: https://poetsforscience.org Poets for Science Gathering, Kent State University, November 12 to 14, 2026: https://connect.kent.edu/register/poets-for-science-gathering Produced by Amarte Labs LLC Get full access to Marco Palou at marcopalou.substack.com/subscribe

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Don’t Freak Out, Being human in the future that came. Marco Palou makes things by hand with artists, scientists, futurists, and cultural thinkers while exploring creativity, identity, and meaning in a world being rewritten by technology. New episodes every Tuesday. marcopalou.substack.com

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  • Creator
    Marco Palou
  • Years Active
    2026
  • Episodes
    16
  • Rating
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    © Marco Palou
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