The lights going out is only the beginning. What happens when food deliveries, gas pumps, running water, and communications stop working? In the final installment of GRID DOWN, Bill Walton welcomes Tommy Waller and Jonathan Hollerman to examine the potential consequences of a prolonged power grid collapse—and what families, utilities, and national leaders could do before a crisis. Hollerman explores what the first 21 days of a catastrophic blackout could look like, including disruptions to grocery distribution, water systems, transportation, and emergency services. He also discusses why wealthy families build survival retreats and the limits of relying on government rescue during a widespread emergency. His approach to preparedness starts with understanding the threat and developing a plan before purchasing supplies. Waller makes the case for prevention, discussing transformer protection technology, electrical equipment supply chain concerns, and his estimated $4 billion grid protection proposal. He considers whether AI companies and data center investors could help accelerate infrastructure improvements, and explains why he believes Donald Trump and Elon Musk could help advance grid security. The guests also examine EMP threats, solar storms, utility incentives, and their concerns about spent nuclear fuel cooling during an extended blackout. Their central question: If protective solutions are available, what is preventing their deployment? Topics include: • The first 21 days of a prolonged grid-down emergency • Food supply chains, drinking water, and essential services • Billionaire survival retreats and the limits of government rescue • EMP threats, solar storms, and vulnerable transformers • Chinese-made electrical equipment and supply chain security • Spent nuclear fuel cooling during extended power outages • Grid hardening technology and Waller’s estimated $4 billion proposal • AI data centers, Trump, Musk, and infrastructure protection • Building a practical preparedness plan before spending on supplies This conversation connects national security, energy security, and family preparedness, exploring both prevention and the challenges of responding to a prolonged blackout. Listen or watch Parts 1 and 2 of GRID DOWN for the full discussion, and subscribe to The Bill Walton Show for more conversations about energy, economics, national security, and America’s future. CHAPTERS 00:00 Billionaires and the stakes of grid failure 00:55 Why wealthy families build survival retreats 03:48 Preparing—and fighting for prevention 05:03 AI data centers and vulnerable transformers 06:45 The proposal to survey America’s transformers 07:18 Chinese-made transformers and security concerns 10:00 American innovation and grid protection 12:35 Elon Musk and the case for action 14:56 What happens in the first 21 days? 21:29 Build a preparedness plan before spending 23:51 Nuclear fuel cooling during a prolonged blackout 27:48 Waller’s proposed $4 billion grid protection fix 28:16 Briefing Trump on the EMP threat 30:05 The presidential action Waller wants 32:22 Who should lead America’s grid protection effort? 34:45 Utility incentives and the path forward FOLLOW THE BILL WALTON SHOW Podcast: https://the-bill-walton-show.castos.com/ Substack: https://billwalton.substack.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebillwaltonshow/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thebillwaltonshow/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebillwaltonshow X: Chapters (00:00:01) - Threat Assessment Overview(00:01:02) - Military DEI and Officer Purges(00:03:16) - Racial Quotas Among Air Force Leadership(00:04:17) - Critical Race Theory and Unit Cohesion(00:06:17) - Dismantling the Administrative Deep State(00:08:18) - Civil Service Reform and Federal Grants(00:09:41) - ActBlue, DNC Finances, and Grant Reform Effects(00:10:30) - What Individuals Can Do(00:12:28) - Shaming the Left and Reclaiming Language(00:13:30) - Closing and Where to Find Wade Miller