This episode is a gentle one. It is about grief, about the body, about what happens when the path you imagined does not unfold the way you hoped, and about where you can find peace when words are not enough. I am joined by Ellen Mary Webster, horticulturalist, floral designer, author and host of the award-winning Plant Based Podcast. Ellen navigated a decade-long fertility journey that included a near-fatal ruptured ectopic pregnancy, a diagnosis of severe endometriosis, three rounds of IVF and ultimately a hysterectomy in her early 30s. Throughout all of it, she turned to her garden. And in this conversation she explains why that was not just a coping mechanism but a genuine form of healing. Whether you have a large garden, a windowsill, a balcony or just a park nearby, this episode will make you want to go outside. Content note: This episode includes discussion of ectopic pregnancy, pregnancy loss, endometriosis, IVF, hysterectomy and involuntary childlessness. What we discuss in this episode:Ellen's decade-long fertility journey: from ectopic pregnancy to endometriosis diagnosis to IVF to hysterectomyThe ruptured ectopic pregnancy that nearly cost Ellen her life and the eight hours of dismissal that preceded emergency surgeryThe health anxiety that stayed long after the physical recoveryWhy gardening became Ellen's constant throughout all of it, from the very first loss to the weeks recovering from a hysterectomyWhat it means to garden for process rather than outcome and why that mindset maps directly onto a fertility journeyThe science behind soil: why getting your hands in the dirt genuinely affects your brain chemistryWhy just seeing a flower can momentarily shift your mental state even when you are in deep griefForest bathing: what it actually is, what the Japanese have known for centuries, and how 40 minutes among trees can reduce anxiety and increase natural killer cellsHow to do forest bathing on your own and why walking slowly with intention is where to startWhat Ellen did during the five weeks she could not garden after her hysterectomy and what sitting still in her garden taught herThe anger and the unfairness of watching friends fall pregnant and how Ellen processed that over timeWhy you do not need to be a gardener for nature to help you: one plant, a garden centre coffee and a short walk all countThe fertility journey and what it taught Ellen about the miracle of lifeEllen's wellness retreats, forest bathing sessions and what a day or weekend immersed in nature can offer Ellen's invitation to anyone who feels like this will not work for themWe are not separate from nature. We are part of it. And we have just become so far detached from it that we have forgotten that going outside, even briefly, even reluctantly, is going to make you feel a little better. Start with one plant. Go to the garden centre. Get a coffee and a piece of cake. Buy the one plant you like and try to nurture it. That is enough. About Ellen Mary WebsterEllen Mary Webster is a horticulturalist, floral designer, author and wellness retreat host. She is the author of The Joy of Gardening and How to Grow a Garden, and the host of the award-winning Plant Based Podcast. She splits her time between Norfolk in the UK and the United States, lives a plant-based life and runs nature immersion and forest bathing wellness retreats. Follow Ellen Mary on Instagram: @ellenmaryGardening The Plant Based Podcast: theplantbasedpodcast.com A note on Fertility Network UKAt the start of this episode I shared some difficult news: Fertility Network UK, one of the longest-standing patient support charities in the UK, has announced a managed closure. As of 21 May they were no longer accepting new requests for direct support. This is a huge loss for the TTC community and I want to send so much love to everyone affected, both the patients who relied on their support and the brilliant people who built it. If you are looking for support, please know that Fertility Action is here and their free weekly groups are open to you. Support and resourcesThe Fertility Podcast is the official podcast for Fertility Action, a charity providing free peer support groups, education and campaigning for fairer access to fertility treatment. Groups run every week with no sign-up or commitment needed. 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