WINNING AT SELLING

Bill Hellkamp

Welcome to the Winning at Selling Podcast. Your hosts Bill Hellkamp and Scott "Professor Plum." This podcast is dedicated to the overall success in the sales channel. From the CEO to the front line salespeople, every role must be aligned, trained and committed, every day to achieve the desired outcome. This is not done without a commitment to ongoing career development in learning market-relevant techniques, overcoming conceptual barriers, applying proactive and productive behaviors and projecting a positive attitude. Whether you are defending first place in the market or dedicated to fighting for first place, each episode will deliver proven advice you can apply that day to improve your sales results.

  1. 4d ago

    #713 - Guest: Erik Therwanger - The Ponder Principle - 8/21/2026

    Although studies show that buying is an emotional decision, most salespeople tend to stay in the realm of logic. To move a prospect into emotional territory the seller needs to induce them to "think", to "ponder". And getting the prospect to ponder, can revolutionize your selling process. Causing Prospects to Ponder Erik and Bill discussed the importance of causing prospects to "ponder" rather than just hear or listen during sales presentations. Erik explained that when sales professionals make people think deeply about their message, it leads to better decision-making, contrasting with the common practice of presenting generic information. They noted that buyers have become more sophisticated and perceive 70% of salespeople as sounding the same, creating an opportunity for sales professionals to differentiate themselves through more thoughtful and personalized approaches. Thought-Provoking Sales Questions Strategy Erik and Bill discussed the importance of asking thought-provoking questions in sales conversations rather than relying on outdated or intrusive techniques. Erik emphasized the need for sales professionals to prepare creative questions that elicit emotional responses from prospects, suggesting the use of "0 to 10" ranking questions to understand what matters most to clients. Bill agreed on the importance of preparation and developing a guided question set, while Erik highlighted the goal of helping clients make decisions based on emotional impact and value rather than just features and benefits. Sales Questioning and Conversion Strategies Erik shared his sales approach of using emotional and logical questions to identify gaps between clients' expectations and current reality, particularly using a 1-10 scale to determine what's most important to prospects. He emphasized the importance of causing clients to ponder through strategic questioning and noted that effective sales professionals should be multidimensional, offering multiple services beyond their primary offering. The discussion highlighted how salespeople can increase conversion rates by understanding client needs better and addressing specific gaps rather than presenting generic solutions. Golden Nugget: "In the middle of every difficulty lies opportunity." – Albert Eistein Resources: Erik Therwanger LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/erik-therwanger-5624b35 Erik Therwanger Contact: erik@thinkgreat90.com Erik Therwanger Website: www.thinkgreat90.com Bill Hellkamp LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/billhellkamp Bill Hellkamp Website: reachdev.com Bill Hellkamp email: Bill.Hellkamp@reachdev.com

    #713 - Guest: Erik Therwanger - The Ponder Principle - 8/21/2026
  2. Jul 25

    #709 - Establish a Connection Right Away and the Right Way - 7/24/2026

    As a salesperson it's easy to get excited about your product or service. So much so that you can find yourself explaining about the great benefits before you even know much about the prospect. In essence, we want to tell our story before we listen to their story. Instead, resist the urge to tell and allow their stories to guide you to a valuable solution. Active Listening in Sales Techniques Jimmy discussed the importance of active listening in sales, emphasizing the need to listen to understand rather than to respond. He explained how asking clarifying questions and showing genuine curiosity can help build rapport with clients. Bill agreed with these principles, sharing his advice to prepare good questions in advance and practice techniques like "tell me more" to encourage clients to share more information. Building Client Rapport Strategies Jimmy and Bill discussed the importance of building rapport and making genuine connections with clients. Jimmy emphasized the need for preparation, active listening, and focusing entirely on the other person to establish trust and gather honest information. He shared his approach of building a "bridge of influence" through asking questions and inviting clients to share their values and future goals. Bill shared a personal anecdote about his mother's experience of feeling overlooked, highlighting the importance of full attention and focus in conversations.  Golden Nugget: "Most people do not listen with the intent to understand, they listen with the intent to reply."  Stephen R. Covey  In this episode: Bill Hellkamp LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/billhellkamp Bill Hellkamp Website: reachdev.com Jimmy Z LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jimmyzugschwert Jimmy Z Website: JimmyZSpeaks.com

    #709 - Establish a Connection Right Away and the Right Way - 7/24/2026
  3. Jul 10

    #707 - Are you making it easy for your customer to buy? - 7/10/2026

    Are you making it easy for your customer to buy? The job of Sales, in its simplest form, is to ask, say, and do things that make it easy for your prospect to say yes to your product/service/solution TODAY! Yet, it seems that some salespeople blather on about features long before they know which ones really connect with the prospect. In sales cultures that are so focused on selling we are being counterintuitive to why people buy! Telling is selling and people don't like being sold but they love to buy! SO let's make it easy…  Customer-Centric Sales Strategy Erik discussed the importance of making it easy for customers to say yes by focusing on customer needs rather than product features, emphasizing the need for sales teams to ask questions and lead with curiosity. He shared insights about new hire performance and the concept of "ignorance on fire" being more effective than "knowledge on ice" for sales success. The discussion highlighted how companies should avoid overwhelming new salespeople with product details and instead focus on helping customers discover their needs through strategic questioning. Golden Nugget: "You need to care about your customer more than you care about your product and care about your people even more!" Jesse Cole creator of Banana Ball and the Savannah Bananas Connections and Resources: Bill Hellkamp LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/billhellkamp Bill Hellkamp Website: reachdev.com Bill Hellkamp email: Bill.Hellkamp@reachdev.com Erik Haugen LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/ erikrhaugen Erik Haugen Contact: erik@propcoachingandconsulting.com PROP Coaching and Consulting website: www.propcoachingandconsulting.com

    #707 - Are you making it easy for your customer to buy? - 7/10/2026
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Welcome to the Winning at Selling Podcast. Your hosts Bill Hellkamp and Scott "Professor Plum." This podcast is dedicated to the overall success in the sales channel. From the CEO to the front line salespeople, every role must be aligned, trained and committed, every day to achieve the desired outcome. This is not done without a commitment to ongoing career development in learning market-relevant techniques, overcoming conceptual barriers, applying proactive and productive behaviors and projecting a positive attitude. Whether you are defending first place in the market or dedicated to fighting for first place, each episode will deliver proven advice you can apply that day to improve your sales results.

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