Out-of-Field Teaching Toolkit Podcast

Margaret Paton

About and for K-12 educators who teach subjects for which they don't have the necessary qualifications. This fortnightly show features insights, tips and solutions from teachers, researchers, policymakers, entrepreneurs and more.

  1. 18 AUG

    #81 Beyond the Weeds: Could Out-of-Field Teachers be Ecosystem Transformers in a Good Way?

    What can bush regeneration teach us about out-of-field teaching? In this episode, we explore how so-called “weeds”can be ecosystem transformers—reshaping landscapes in surprising ways. Drawing on Australian example weeds like lantana and African lovegrass, wI connect the dots between ecology and education, challenging assumptions about growth, adaptation, and success in unexpected environments. Scholarly Citations Akkerman, S. F., & Bakker, A. (2011). Boundary Crossing and Boundary Objects. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.3102/0034654311404435 Barker, M., Goos, M. & Coupland, M. (2024). Relieving Out of Field Teaching in Australian Secondary Mathematics: Analysis of out-of-field secondary mathematics teaching upskilling initiatives in Australia. AMSI, AustMS, MERGA, Statistical Society of Australia, Actuaries Institute. https://amsi.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/maths-ooft-report.pdf Blake, D. (2013) Applied learning as a boundary-crossing pedagogy. https://mail.aare.net.au/publications/aare-conference-papers/show/8090/applied-learning-as-a-boundary-crossing-pedagogy-to-support-innovative-youth-education Hobbs, L. & Porsche, R. (Eds.) (2022). Out-of-field Teaching Across Teaching Disciplines and Contexts. Springer. https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9783030944771 Otrel-Cass, K. (2024) — https://educationaltechnologyjournal.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/s41239-024-00463-4   Other links: AABR: Bradley Method — https://www.aabr.org.au/learn/what-i-bush-regeneration/general-principles/the-bradley-method/ Gillies, C. & Compton, M. (2025) “Rewilding the University” — https://mcompton.uk/2025/04/02/rewilding/ Kuchta, E. C. (2025). Growing Grass Between Concrete — https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/australian-journal-of-environmental-education/article/growing-grass-between-concrete-a-chooseyourownadventure-game-for-rewilding-literature-pedagogies/6E278EB4A3B723ADFECC09BF23E208B0 Vicphysics SPP PD — https://www.vicphysics.org/events/spp/ Wikipedia: Bush regeneration — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_regeneration

    10 min
  2. 21 JUL

    #79 Listening Differently: Rethinking Research with Out-of-Field Teachers

    What happens when no one signs up for your carefully planned research study? In this solo episode, I reflect on the challenges of involving out-of-field teachers in time-intensive research and why that struggle pushed me to rethink traditional data collection methods. I share how netnography and existing online conversations are reshaping my PhD project — and what this means for research ethics. It’s a call to listen differently, especially when participation feels like one ask too many. Links: Find out more about my PhD project if you’reconsidering participating in an interview: https://blogs.deakin.edu.au/success-stories-ooft-maths-science/phd-research-project-a-netnographic-exploration-of-self-perceptions-of-success-of-out-of-field-teachers-of-mathematics-and-science/    REFERENCES: Briggs, C. (1986/1992), Learning How to Ask: A Sociolinguistic Appraisal of the Role of the Interview in Social Science Research, Cambridge University Press, New York. Clandinin, D. J. (2006). Narrative inquiry: A methodology for studying lived experience. Research Studies in Music Education, 27(1), 44–54. https://doi.org/10.1177/1321103X060270010301 Ellis, C. (2007). Telling secrets, revealing lives: Relational ethics in research with intimate others. Qualitative Inquiry, 13(1), 3–29. https://doi.org/10.1177/1077800406294947 Kozinets, R. V. (2020). Netnography: The essential guide to qualitative social media research. SAGE. Nissenbaum, H. (2010).Privacy in context: Technology, policy, and the integrity of social life.Stanford University Press. O'Toole, J. & Beckett, D. (2013). Educational research: Creative thinking and doing (2nd ed.). Oxford University Press. Paulhus, D. L. (2002). Socially desirable responding: The evolution of a construct. In H. I. Braun, D. N. Jackson, & D. E. Wiley (Eds.), The role of constructs in psychological and educational measurement (pp. 49–69). Lawrence Erlbaum Associates. https://www2.psych.ubc.ca/~dpaulhus/research/CIRCUMPLEX/ETS%20chapter.pdf Powney, J.  & Watts, M. (2018). Interviewing in educational research. Routledge. Rubio, O. G. (1997). Ethnographic interview methods in researching language and education. In N. H. Hornberger & D. Corson (Eds.), Encyclopedia of language and education (Vol.8, pp. 153–163). Springer. https://doi.org/10.1007/978-94-011-4535-0_15

    8 min

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About and for K-12 educators who teach subjects for which they don't have the necessary qualifications. This fortnightly show features insights, tips and solutions from teachers, researchers, policymakers, entrepreneurs and more.