With the infinite knit into our very being, our brief life cannot bring us ultimate joy and satisfaction. And yet, as we long for eternity, we can find meaning and peace by resting in God, serving others, and cultivating a mellow heart. In this episode of The Digital Examen, Jay Y. Kim welcomes Fr. Ronald Rolheiser, acclaimed Roman Catholic priest and author, whose spiritual trilogy offers wisdom for following Jesus in our youth, mid-life, and final years: The Holy Longing, Sacred Fire, and Insane for the Light. Drawing from decades of pastoral experience, Fr. Rolheiser explores the cultural obsession with staying young, the challenge of aging well, and the deep joy that comes from surrender and gratitude. Together, Kim and Fr. Rolheiser reflect on the power of everyday rituals, our modern misunderstanding of happiness, and how true spiritual maturity is cultivated by serving others with an open heart. Through this, they explore how tending a forgiving and thankful spirit is how we can be subversive instruments of joy in the world. Tune in to discover how to follow Jesus in each of life’s unique seasons, wrestle with our longings, and find true rest in God’s presence. This episode highlights the following themes: How restless longing shapes all stages of life and can only find rest in GodHow delight, mellow-heartedness, and forgiveness connect to true meaning and maturitySimple practices for channeling desire, sustaining love, and finding God in ordinary momentsLinks from this episode: Learn more about Fr. Ronald RolheiserExplore Fr. Rolheiser’s trilogy: The Holy Longing, Sacred Fire, and Insane for the LightRead the transcript herePreorder The Pace of Peace by Jay Y. Kim Learn more about The Digital Examen Learn more about your host, Jay Y. Kim Listen to Meditations from The Digital Examen Download a Guide to The Examen Slowing down in a culture of speed isn’t easy. Noticing in an age of distraction might be even harder. But walking intentionally with God happens at the pace of peace, leading us to that which often feels elusive: joy and delight. In this season of The Digital Examen podcast, host Jay Y. Kim joins an array of writers, educators, artists, and theologians to explore the many gifts God offers just beneath the surface of our frenzied lives, often hidden in plain view. Together, we’ll discover that a life marked by joy and delight is available to any and all who would slow down and notice. SPECIAL OFFER | Visit ivpress.com and use the code IVPEXAMEN40 for 40% off and free shipping on any IVP resource mentioned in this episode. Credits: ✅ Consulting Producer: Helen Lee ✅ Producers: Christine Pelliccio Melo and Travis Albritton ✅ Assistant Producer: Jack Reece ✅ Sound Engineering: Honest Podcasts ✅ Social Media Manager: Makayla Payne ✅ Podcast Art: Kate Lillard and Elsbette San Blas ✅ Theme Song: "For They Will Inherit the Earth" by Stephen Keech Disclaimer: The comments, views, and opinions expressed in this podcast are solely those of the host and/or the guests featured on the podcast and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of InterVarsity Press or InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. As an Amazon Affiliate, this channel earns commissions from qualifying purchases when you use the links above. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands