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10/08/2025

A Prelude to the Next Season: The Mary Episode

In this special crossover episode, Michael Gungor shares an intimate reflection from his new Loving This podcast series, Magnificat — a journey through the songs, symbols, and spiritual questions behind his latest album. This episode centers on Mary — the divine feminine, the cosmic mother, and the presence of love that births the world again and again. Through story, song, and meditation, Michael explores how the archetype of Mary lives in all of us — as compassion, surrender, and creative power. It’s both a return and a beginning — a bridge between The Liturgists and what’s emerging next. Stay tuned for a new season of The Liturgists coming early next year: conversations with voices that help us feel a little less alone.

42 min
03/24/2019

Richard Rohr and The Universal Christ (Part 1)

Hillary McBride, William Matthews, Science Mike, and Michael Gungor talk with Richard Rohr about The Universal Christ--Fr. Rohr’s latest book. You can learn more about the book here. You can get the audiobook for The Universal Christ for free using our Audible affiliate link. Learn more here.

46 min
09/30/2021

Let's Disagree

We've lot a lot of listeners and patrons this season. Perhaps not surprisingly, reframing Christianity to be seen as nondual spiritual technologies is not everyone's cup of tea. (Neither is Michael Gungor) But we also want you to know that we hear you and that there's space for you and your disagreement here too. In this episode, Michael talks with an old Christian music buddy (and Liturgists podcast listener), Jimmy Needham, about why they disagree about the content of this season.

1h 59m
08/23/2016

The Enneagram (Episode 37)

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1h 59m
09/30/2023

Church Shopping

Michael Gungor talks about how he's been church shopping and how the Internet has reacted to it as well as his thoughts and feelings around this unexpected burst of cultural conversation

29 min
08/26/2014

Episode 3 - The Bible

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1h 7m
11/04/2021

Let's Disagree Again

Peter Rollins returns to the Liturgists podcast to disagree with Michael about reality being “One” and, of course, to have some good laughs while doing so.

2 hr
09/23/2014

Episode 5 - Spiral Dynamics

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1h 10m
08/12/2014

Episode 2 - Genesis & Evolution

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

55 min
02/24/2015

Episode 14 - Meditation

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1h 17m
01/28/2021

Is Christianity Worth Saving?

Is Christianity worth saving? This is a question that has been at the heart of The Liturgists since the beginning. In this first episode of Season 7, we explore this question as we begin to set the course for where we’d like to head together in this new season of the podcast and beyond. This episode includes conversations and thoughts from Mihee Kim-Kort, Peter Rollins, Hillary McBride, William Mathews, and Michael Gungor. You can watch The Liturgists Podcast being recorded live each week (as well as The Alien Podcast) by joining The Liturgists. We love having everyone together where we can talk during the recordings. Check out theliturgists.com and find where it says "Join The Liturgists." Also, this Sunday at 11am Pacific you are invited to join us for The Sunday Thing. Hundreds of liturgists from around the world get together via video. We break into smaller groups to talk and it is such a wonderful time. You are not alone in your doubts, questions, anger, sadness, atheism, theism, or any other thing you are going through. To find out more and to join us on Sunday, go to theliturgists.com

47 min
02/17/2022

John Philip Newell

In today’s episode, Michael talks to John Philip Newell, a Celtic teacher and author of spirituality who calls the modern world to reawaken to the sacredness of the earth and every human being. Together, they discuss Celtic Christianity and the modern-day application of its wisdom. 3:00- Michael asks what the scope of Celtic Christianity is 7:50- Michael asks why this wisdom is difficult to practice together 12:50: Michael reads some quotes and John Philip discusses the divine feminine 20:30: Michael and John Philip discuss the intersection between sexuality and spirituality 29:30: Michael asks John Philip what God isn’t 41:00: They discuss distinctions between ego and soul 47:00- Michael asks what the Celtic Christian view of Jesus Christ is

59 min
10/17/2017

God Our Mother - Live from Boston

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1h 5m
09/19/2019

Pete Holmes Returns

Pete Holmes returns for a conversation with Michael Gungor and Science Mike to discuss his latest book, Comedy Sex God. This episode was sponsored by Betterhelp. Get 10% your first month of safe, private, affordable mental health counseling by visiting http://betterhelp.com/liturgists.

1h 49m
07/29/2014

Episode 1 - Creativity

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

48 min
09/09/2014

Episode 4 - Church Unity

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

1h 4m
12/15/2015

Episode 29 - Philosophy and Radical Theology

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

59 min
02/21/2017

How Do We Know What We Know? (Epistemology)

We're talking about epistemology on this episode–the study of truth, belief, and justification. Sound boring? In the age of "fake news," this may be the most important topic we can cover.

1h 12m
01/27/2023

Enough

In this episode, Michael talks about his discovery about how the most destructive patterns in his history have been rooted in a story of not being enough. This realization has made him refocus his mission to the point that he is restructuring all of his life, work, and business.

37 min
05/19/2015

Episode 20 - LGBTQ

Michael Gungor, Science Mike, William Matthews, and Hillary McBride host a culture-shaping, genre-bending conversation about the most relevant (or bizarre) topics facing people today.

2h 5m

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