A Different Perspective

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A Different Perspective is a Zeus podcast, hosted by Nick Searle, Co-Head of Equity Sales. In the different perspective podcast we speak to interesting characters within finance and business to understand more about their personal journey and ambitions. This is co-mingled with a discussion about their business. It’s more about the formation of the individual than the business per se; thus trying to gain that different perspective. This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

  1. 6D AGO

    A Different Perspective with Jeff Chatfield, CEO of Avation PLC — Inside the High-Flying World of Airline Leasing, ATR Fleets, Bond Markets and the Future of Aviation Stocks

    This week Nick talks to Jeff Chatfield Jeff Chatfield is the CEO of Avation, a publicly listed aircraft leasing company with a global portfolio of commercial and regional aircraft. He has over two decades of experience in the aviation finance industry, leading the company through multiple bond issues and strategic fleet expansions. Known for his pragmatic approach to capital management, Chatfield has built Aviation into one of the few small-scale lessors capable of issuing public bonds. Based between Singapore and London, he is recognised for his clear, data-driven insights into market trends and aircraft investment strategy. In this episode Nick and Jeff discuss the company’s recent US$300 million bond issue and improved credit ratings from major agencies, marking a significant step forward since its earlier, lower-rated bonds. Jeff discusses how the refinancing provides long-term stability, enabling the company to continue its growth trajectory over the next five and a half years. He explains how the upgraded ratings reflect Aviation’s maturity and scale in a market where even US$20 billion is now considered small, while also noting the flexibility and strategic value of bonds for managing capital efficiently. The discussion moves to fleet strategy, including the extended lease of a wide-body A330 to EVA Air and the company’s ongoing focus on narrow-body aircraft such as A320s and ATRs. Chatfield highlights the global demand for aircraft driven by replacement cycles and rising air travel in emerging economies such as India and China. He emphasises Aviation’s valuable order book and purchase rights, which position the company strongly amid limited aircraft supply. Jeff's Book Choice was:The Thursday Murder Club by Richard Osman This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    21 min

  2. OCT 28

    A Different Perspective with Julian Roberts, Executive Coach - Building Resilience at Work: Purpose, Mindset and Growth

    This week Nick talks to Julian Roberts Julian Roberts is an executive coach, author and podcast presenter known for his work in developing personal and organisational resilience. In this episode, Nick and Julian talk through Julian’s varied career path — from studying medical sciences and starting out in pharmaceutical sales, to spending twenty years in the food industry with brands such as Heinz, before moving into executive coaching following a difficult corporate experience that led him to reassess his direction. Julian explains how his interest in people and performance encouraged him to retrain as a coach and study psychology and neuro-linguistic programming. He describes how his coaching helps individuals and teams to gain clarity, challenge assumptions and take practical steps towards improvement. He also discusses how adaptability and learning, rather than persistence alone, are key to building resilience and improving both personal performance and workplace culture.  Julian's Book choice was: The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen Covey Julian music choice was: “Intro” by The xx. This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    59 min

  3. OCT 14

    A Different Perspective with Oktay Kavrak - From Tesla to Gold: How Leveraged ETPs Are Redefining Modern Investing

    This week Nick talks to Oktay Kavrak. Oktay Kavrak is Head of Communications and Strategy at Leverage Shares, a European leader in exchange-traded products (ETPs). Oktay discusses the company’s mission to democratize access to investing, with over $1.5 billion in assets under management as of July 2024. He shares his professional journey from IBM and DeGiro to joining Leverage Shares in its early stages, helping pioneer leveraged ETFs across Europe. Oktay explains how Leverage Shares introduced the first leveraged single-stock ETFs - products that offer amplified exposure to major names like Tesla, Nvidia, and Coinbase. Designed for short-term, tactical trading, these products allow investors to multiply daily movements of popular stocks while maintaining transparency and regulated exchange access. The discussion also highlights the rise of Income Shares, which generate monthly cash flow through covered call and cash-secured put strategies, offering investors both growth and yield opportunities. Notably, Leverage Shares’ 3x Tesla ETF has been the most traded ETF on the London Stock Exchange for three consecutive years, reflecting the strong retail demand for active, accessible trading tools. Nick and Oktay look ahead, as OKtay predicts that the ETF industry will continue expanding, driven by retail participation, product innovation, and greater demand for diversified and income-generating strategies. As the market evolves, firms like Leverage Shares are bridging the gap between complex institutional strategies and retail accessibility—bringing structured, transparent products to investors worldwide.  Oktay's Book Choices where:Outliers by Malcolm GladwellRebel Ideas by Matthew Syed Oktay's Music Choice was:Coldplay This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    49 min

  4. SEP 30

    Prof. David Keene MBE, CEO Aurrigo - Inside Aurrigo: How Autonomous Vehicles Are Transforming Airports

    In this episode Nick talks to David Keene MBE David Keene MBE, Founder & CEO of Aurrigo, is a leading figure in the automotive and autonomous vehicle industries. With nearly four decades of experience, David has been recognised as a driving force in the development of autonomous and electric vehicles, earning an MBE in June 2025 for his pioneering work to decarbonise airports through innovations such as the Auto-DollyTug, now in use at airports worldwide. A board member of the UK Automotive Council, Visiting Professor at Coventry University, and Fellow of the Institute of Engineering and Technology, David shares insights from his journey as an entrepreneur, innovator, and mentor nurturing the next generation of talent. Nick and David discuss how Aurrigo is partnering with major airlines, airports, and ground handlers—including Heathrow, Schiphol, Changi, and Swissport—to deploy autonomous technology that reduces emissions and addresses post-COVID staffing shortages by automating repetitive, low-value tasks. David highlights why airports are the ideal proving ground for autonomy—operating at low speeds, under strict regulations, and within confined domains—and explains how AI supports vision systems while safety-critical driving remains rules-based. The conversation also explores digital twins, airport electrification, and the next wave of autonomous applications, from cargo and baggage handling to security patrols, catering vehicles, and even remote-controlled passenger stairs. Offering insights into global scaling, competition with legacy ground support manufacturers, and the balance between innovation and safety, this discussion reveals how autonomous technology is reshaping airside operations and redefining the future of aviation logistics. David's Book choices where:The Warren Buffett Way  by Robert G. Hagstrom Rich Dad, Poor Dad by Robert T. Kiyosaki and Sharon Lechter David's music choice was:Mr Blue Sky by ELOThis content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    1h 7m

  5. SEP 16

    A Different Perspective with Peter York - Culture Wars, Disinformation and the Future of Human Connection

    This week Nick talks to Peter York Peter York is an author, broadcaster, journalist, management consultant and cultural commentator. He was Style Editor of Harper’s & Queen for ten years and co-authored The Official Sloane Ranger Handbook in 1982. He co-founded the consultancy SRU Ltd, later chaired a UK government Foresight committee on the future of leisure, and has written for The Independent on Sunday, GQ and Management Today. Peter’s most recent books are The War Against the BBC: How an Unprecedented Combination of Hostile Forces Is Destroying Britain's Greatest Cultural Institution... And Why You Should Care and A Dead Cat on Your Table — which argues that Britain’s culture wars are waged by a shameless minority with no shortage of money or media access, battling society’s most vulnerable not for principle, but for money and political power. Peter and Nick discuss Peter's inspiring mentors and working with major brands, media outlets, and designers while building his consultancy career. They also discusses the creation and cultural impact of the Sloane Ranger Handbook, its ties to 1980s London, and the social shifts of that era. Peter contrasts the old financial and advertising worlds with today’s technology-driven landscape, expressing concern about the decline of human connection, the rise of disinformation, and the role of AI in shaping public opinion. They also cover some of the themes of his book A Dead Cat on Your Table, which explores how culture wars and “othering” distract from real societal issues. Peter's book choice wasThe Three Musketeers Hardcover – by Alexandre Dumas Peter's music choices whereAvalon by Roxy MusicOnce in a Lifetime by Talking Heads Subscribe to Peter's Podcast - Peter York's Culture Wars House Party This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    1h 6m

  6. SEP 2

    A Different Perspective with Flowtech CEO, Mike England - From 17 Brands to One, Digital Launch, Acquisitions and Growth in the £30bn Fluid Power Market

    This week Nick talks to Mike England Mike holds a Master's Degree in Engineering and brings over 25 years of commercial and operational leadership experience in industrial product distribution and services. He spent eight years with FTSE100 RS Group plc, where he held key leadership roles including Group Chief Operating Officer, overseeing P&L across the Americas, EMEA, and APAC. Prior to that, he served as President of EMEA and, earlier, as Managing Director, successfully leading the turnaround of operations in the UK and Northern Europe. Before RS Group, Mike spent nine years at FTSE250 Brammer plc (now Rubix), where he was Key Account and Sales Director, following nine years at Rexel in a variety of commercial and operational leadership roles. Nick and Mike discuss how Flowtech has been through a major transformation, bringing 17 brands together under one name and shifting the business from service issues to a more stable, profitable footing. Mike points to the relaunch of the company’s well-known fluid power catalogue and the launch of a new website that makes it easier for customers to buy online while showcasing the full range of products and services. They touch on the steady MRO market, the quick turnaround of recent acquisitions, and the fresh leadership team now in place. Looking ahead, Mike shares his optimism that with stronger foundations and a scalable model, Flowtech is well placed to grow as markets recover, both through its own improvements and selective acquisitions. Mike's book choice was: Start With Why by Simon Sinek Mike's music choice was:Don't You (Forget About Me) by Simple Minds This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    56 min

  7. AUG 19

    A Different Perspective with Benedict Evans - AI’s Evolution: Hype, Real-World Impact and Moral Panic

    In this weeks episode Nick talks to Benedict Evans Benedict Evans is an independent analyst with over 25 years’ experience in mobile, media, and technology. Evans recounts his career journey, from equity analysis of mobile operators, to strategic roles in media and telecoms, and later his work at venture capital firm Andreessen Horowitz. Nick and Benedict conversations explores the evolution of artificial intelligence, clarifying definitions of AI, machine learning, and generative AI, and drawing historical parallels with past technology shifts such as smartphones, spreadsheets, and the internet. Evans discusses AI’s strengths, limitations, and public misconceptions, emphasising that its current utility lies in domains like software development and marketing. He notes that while AI can produce impressive results, it operates on probabilistic reasoning rather than human-like understanding, making it well-suited for some tasks but unreliable for others requiring precise factual accuracy. The discussion also addresses societal responses to new technologies, including moral panics, misuse by bad actors, and challenges in regulation. Evans stresses the importance of distinguishing hype from genuine capability and identifying where AI adds the most value. Looking ahead, he outlines adoption patterns, the integration of AI into everyday workflows, and the ongoing debate over whether large language models represent a fundamental shift in computing or simply another software evolution. Follow Benedict and subscribe to his newsletter here.  This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

    1h 1m

  8. AUG 5

    A Different Perspective with Lionel Barber, Journalist and Author - Inside SoftBank: Masayoshi Son’s High-Stakes Vision

    This week Nick talks to Lionel Barber. Lionel Barber is a distinguished British journalist best known for his tenure as Editor of the Financial Times from 2005 to 2020, during which he spearheaded its transformation into a globally respected, digital-first news organisation. A graduate of St Edmund Hall, Oxford, he began his career at The Scotsman before moving to The Sunday Times and then joining the FT in 1985, where he held senior roles including Washington correspondent, Brussels bureau chief, news editor, and U.S. managing editor. As editor, he conducted landmark interviews with world leaders such as Barack Obama, Vladimir Putin, and Angela Merkel. Barber is the author of The Powerful and the Damned: Private Diaries in Turbulent Times and his latest book Gambling Man: The Wild Ride of Japan’s Masayoshi Son, and has been recognised with honours including the Légion d’Honneur, the Stella d’Italia, and the Gerald Loeb Lifetime Achievement Award. He currently serves on several boards, lectures globally on media and geopolitics, and co-hosts the Media Confidential podcast with Alan Rusbridger. Nick and Lionel discuss, Lionel's journey from a newspaper-loving household in Leeds to leading one of the world's most influential publications. Inspired by his journalist father, Barber started his career at The Scotsman and quickly rose through the ranks, eventually serving as foreign correspondent in Washington and Brussels before becoming FT editor in 2005. He shares highlights from his tenure, including interviews with Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump, and his leadership during the paper's digital transformation.  Barber also discusses his latest book, Gambling Man, a biography of Masayoshi Son, the Korean-Japanese entrepreneur behind SoftBank. The book charts Son's remarkable rise from growing up in a marginalised slum to building one of the world's largest investment funds. Barber portrays Son as both a visionary and a calculated risk-taker, whose bold investments in Yahoo, Alibaba, and ARM shaped modern tech finance. He also delves into Son's failures, such as the WeWork debacle, and his ability to bounce back with ambitious plans in AI and global innovation, while still regarded with suspicion by Japan’s establishment. Lionel's book choice was:Present at the creation Dean Acheson Lionel Music choice was:Piano Sonata No. 32 in C minor, Op. 111 by Ludwig van Beethoven Follow Lionel on his Substack and his podcast - Media Confidential. This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

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A Different Perspective is a Zeus podcast, hosted by Nick Searle, Co-Head of Equity Sales. In the different perspective podcast we speak to interesting characters within finance and business to understand more about their personal journey and ambitions. This is co-mingled with a discussion about their business. It’s more about the formation of the individual than the business per se; thus trying to gain that different perspective. This content is issued by Zeus Capital Limited (“Zeus”) (Incorporated in England & Wales No. 4417845), which is authorised and regulated in the United Kingdom by the Financial Conduct Authority (“FCA”) for designated investment business, (Reg No. 224621) and is a member firm of the London Stock Exchange. This content is for information purposes only and neither the information contained, nor the opinions expressed within, constitute or are to be construed as an offer or a solicitation of an offer to buy or sell the securities or other instruments mentioned in it. Zeus shall not be liable for any direct or indirect damages, including lost profits arising in any way from the information contained in this material. This material is for the use of intended recipients only.

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