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The BackTable Podcast is a resource for interventional radiologists, vascular surgeons, interventional cardiologists, and other interventional and endovascular specialists to learn tips, techniques, and the ins and outs of the devices in their cabinets. Listen on BackTable.com or on the streaming platform of your choice. You can also visit www.BackTable.com to browse our open access, physician-catered knowledge center for all things vascular and interventional; now featuring practice tools, procedure walkthroughs, and expert guidance on more than 40 endovascular procedures.

  1. Ep. 601 Revenue Cycle Management: Key Strategies for Healthcare Success with Laurie Bouzarelos MHA, CPC, FACHE

    3D AGO

    Ep. 601 Revenue Cycle Management: Key Strategies for Healthcare Success with Laurie Bouzarelos MHA, CPC, FACHE

    The ultimate challenge of operating an OBL is staying profitable. In this episode of BackTable, we bring on healthcare administrator Laurie Bouzarelos and interventional radiologist Dr. Mary Costantino to talk through the intricacies of revenue cycle management as an IR managing an OBL. --- SYNPOSIS The conversation covers the full lifecycle of getting paid in an IR practice, from initial patient contact through final claim resolution. Key topics include credentialing, determining medical necessity, coordination of benefits, prior authorizations, and the importance of working with billing and practice management teams experienced in interventional radiology. The episode also examines how EHR and practice management platform selection impacts clinical workflows and reimbursement, and closes with a discussion on payment plans and how emerging technologies, including AI, may shape the future of revenue management in IR-led OBLs. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction 01:08 - The Importance of Revenue Cycle Management09:29 - The No Surprises Act and Data Transparency12:03 - Professional Societies and Continuing Education17:50 - Credentialing and Taxonomy Codes40:28 - Impact of Insurance Credentialing on Patient Care42:08 - Revenue Cycle Management Walkthrough48:18 - Challenges with Medicare Advantage and Coordination of Benefits54:20 - Covered vs. Non-Covered Services59:03 - Medical Necessity and Insurance Policies01:01:04 - Prior Authorization and Payment Issues01:13:11 - Payment Plans and Compliance01:23:10 - Practice Management Software01:31:10 - AI in Healthcare and Compliance01:38:57 - Final Thoughts --- RESOURCES Medical Group Management Administration (MGMA)https://www.mgma.com/

    1h 40m
  2. 6D AGO

    Ep. 600 Exploring Artificial Intelligence Utility in Endovascular Procedures with Dr. Emil Cohen

    OpenEvidence was founded in 2022. In just 3 short years, it has become a household name amongst aspiring and established healthcare providers. AI-based tools are now being used to augment workflows, improve productivity, streamline busy work, and assist with clinical decision making. Is AI coming for our jobs? Time will tell. But in the meantime, you can (and probably should) use it to enhance yours. In this episode of BackTable, computer scientist and interventional radiologist Dr. Emil Cohen joins Dr. Chris Beck to share how he’s integrated AI tools into his IR practice. --- SYNPOSIS Dr. Cohen and Dr. Beck discuss both the advantages and key limitations of AI resources and tools like OpenEvidence and ChatGPT. They also explore application of AI in daily workflows, structured reports, procedural guidance, and predicting outcomes. Dr. Cohen dives into integrating AI to solve clinical problems and enhance existing technology, such as maskless subtraction angiography and rotational cone beam CT. Finally, Dr. Cohen speaks on the claim of AI replacing interventional radiology, informing those that are nervous about artificial intelligence. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction05:09 - Computer Science and Medicine09:37 - AI Fundamentals for IRs17:59 - Practical Applications of AI in IR28:14 - The Value and Risks of Patient Data31:22 - Developing Advanced Imaging Techniques34:16 - Maskless Subtraction Angiography40:29 - AI in Clinical Problem Solving45:55 - The Future of AI in IR49:51 - Getting Involved with AI and Volunteering53:01 - Final Thoughts and Resources --- RESOURCES No Mask Subtraction with AI:https://www.smartangio.com/bone_subtraction/

    57 min
  3. DEC 12

    Ep. 597 Ablative Treatments & Radiotherapy: The Latest in Lung Cancer Treatment with Dr. Alan Lee, Dr. Scott Oh, and Dr. Rob Suh

    Why might the standard RECIST criteria fail to accurately track success after tumor ablation, and what should you look for instead? In the 4th installment of the 2025 NSCLC Creator Weekend™ series, hosts Drs. Scott Genshaft and Kavi Krishnasamy are joined by specialists from UCLA and USC to discuss and debate advanced treatment options for primary lung cancer. --- This podcast is supported by an educational grant from Johnson & Johnson and Varian. --- SYNPOSIS The panel, including interventional radiologists, pulmonologists, and a radiation oncologist, discusses the intricacies of photon versus proton therapies, the physics behind radiation treatment, and the evolving landscape of ablation technologies. The conversation covers the efficacy and limitations of different treatments, patient selection criteria, and the role of newer technologies like electroporation and robotic-assisted bronchoscopy in enhancing precision and outcomes. Additionally, the panel addresses the practical challenges of intraprocedural imaging, the importance of adequate margins, and the complexities of managing local recurrences and radiation-induced toxicities. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Tumor Ablation and Recurrence Rates12:53 - Advancements in Ablation Technologies23:31 - Bronchoscopic Approaches in Lung Cancer Treatment38:46 - Challenges in Radiation Dose and Delivery49:21 - Ablation and Radiation Margins01:07:19 - Final Thoughts --- RESOURCES Thierry de Baere Paper on Ablation Margins https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9815739/

    1h 9m
  4. DEC 9

    Ep. 596 Thrombin Injection for Pseudoaneurysms: Technique & Considerations with Dr. Gabriel Werder

    Pseudoaneurysms are among the most common complications of vascular access. Here’s a refresher on how to treat them with thrombin injection featuring interventional radiologist Dr. Gabriel Werder from Radiology Associates of Florida. Alongside host Dr. Chris Beck, Dr. Werder outlines both the clinical and procedural approach to thrombin injection for pseudoaneurysms. --- SYNPOSIS This episode covers best practices for thrombin injection procedures, including preferred needle positioning techniques, sedation protocols, ultrasound evaluation, and follow-up care. The physicians discuss recent evidence supporting needle placement at the center of the sac from an inferior approach, and share specific cases that highlight the utility of balloon-assisted thrombin injections. Dr. Werder provides a detailed walkthrough of his technique, including contralateral femoral access, balloon oversizing, and preferences for a post-procedural run-off angiogram. The episode also touches on complex pseudoaneurysms with multiple sacs and learnings from several other unique cases. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction03:53 - Thrombin Injection Procedural Overview08:14 - Procedure Setup and Execution16:13 - Needle Positioning and Ultrasound Evaluation18:47 - Handling Complex Pseudoaneurysms19:20 - Balloon Occlusion Thrombin Injection19:59 - Case Studies and Practical Insights26:21 - Post-Procedure Care and Follow-Up29:17 - Final Thoughts and Reflections --- RESOURCES Kim et al. “Optimal thrombin injection method for the treatment of femoral artery pseudoaneurysm” - https://www.jthjournal.org/article/S1538-7836(24)00048-5/fulltext

    33 min
  5. DEC 5

    Ep. 595 Lung Cancer Staging and Systemic Therapies: Recent Advancements with Dr. Karen Reckamp and Dr. Scott Atay

    How do leading oncologists interpret the abundance of molecular tests, genomic data, and biomarkers to create a lung cancer patient’s treatment plan? In this episode of the 2025 NSCLC Creator Weekend™ series, our tumor board discusses the complexities of lung cancer treatment, including new systemic therapies, lung cancer staging, and the role of molecular diagnostics and liquid biopsies. --- This podcast is supported by an educational grant from Johnson & Johnson and Varian. --- SYNPOSIS The panel, featuring specialists from various institutions, discusses the specifics of sequencing therapies, the impact of targeted and immunotherapies, and the nuances of treating different patient profiles, including non-smokers and those with specific genetic mutations. The conversation also touches on the integration of new staging systems, the benefits of multidisciplinary clinics, and the ongoing evolution of cancer treatment trials. The discussion aims to provide clarity on the latest advancements and future directions in managing lung cancer, emphasizing the importance of tailored treatment plans and the potential of emerging technologies. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction05:16 - Molecular Diagnostics and Liquid Biopsy21:43 - Targeted Therapy Options27:29 - Managing Toxicities and Treatment Strategies33:13 - Challenges with Immunotherapy in Special Cases34:07 - Lung Transplantation in Cancer Patients48:38 - Multidisciplinary Clinics and Collaboration01:06:29 - Future Directions --- RESOURCES ADAURA Trialhttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2027071 Gomez NSCLChttps://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5143183/

    1h 9m
  6. DEC 2

    Ep. 594 How New Guidelines are Shaping Acute DVT Management with Dr. Steven Abramowitz

    Are you up to date with the latest guidelines on deep venous thrombosis (DVT) management? Dr. Steven Abramowitz, vascular surgeon at MedStar Health, joins host Dr. Chris Beck for a deep dive into emerging clinical data in DVT management, where they review the evolving indications for mechanical thrombectomy and the implications of studies like the ATTRACT trial, the CLOUT registry, and the ongoing DEFIANCE trial. --- This podcast is supported by: Inari Medicalhttps://www.inarimedical.com/ --- SYNPOSIS Dr. Abramowitz reviews recent data comparing outcomes of mechanical intervention versus lytic-based therapy, outlining how each approach fits into current practice. He underscores the critical role of IVUS in determining treatment endpoints, while noting the ongoing challenge of an absent standardized definition. The conversation also offers practical insights on procedural techniques and the evolving role of anticoagulation, emphasizing the importance of close collaboration and open communication with referring physicians. --- TIMESTAMPS 00:00 - Introduction00:45 - Overview of DVT Management02:50 - New Guidelines for DVT Treatment07:30 - Technical Endpoints in DVT Treatment13:26 - Clout Registry and Its Findings17:57 - Anticoagulation and DVT23:05 - Defining Acute DVT Management27:00 - Evolving Approaches to Acute DVT28:19 - Patient Experience and Quality of Life31:08 - Referring Providers and Data Impact37:01 - Single Session Treatments and Stenting41:07 - Chronic Venous Disease Management --- RESOURCES (ATTRACT) Weinberg I, Vedantham S, Salter A, et al. Relationships between the use of pharmacomechanical catheter-directed thrombolysis, sonographic findings, and clinical outcomes in patients with acute proximal DVT: Results from the ATTRACT Multicenter Randomized Trial. Vasc Med. 2019;24(5):442-451. doi:10.1177/1358863X19862043https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31354089/ (CLOUT) Shaikh A, Zybulewski A, Paulisin J, et al. Six-Month Outcomes of Mechanical Thrombectomy for Treating Deep Vein Thrombosis: Analysis from the 500-Patient CLOUT Registry. Cardiovasc Intervent Radiol. 2023;46(11):1571-1580. doi:10.1007/s00270-023-03509-8https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37580422/ (DEFIANCE) Abramowitz SD, Marko X, D'Souza D, et al. Rationale and design of the DEFIANCE study: A randomized controlled trial of mechanical thrombectomy versus anticoagulation alone for iliofemoral deep vein thrombosis. Am Heart J. 2025;281:92-102. doi:10.1016/j.ahj.2024.10.016https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39491572/

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The BackTable Podcast is a resource for interventional radiologists, vascular surgeons, interventional cardiologists, and other interventional and endovascular specialists to learn tips, techniques, and the ins and outs of the devices in their cabinets. Listen on BackTable.com or on the streaming platform of your choice. You can also visit www.BackTable.com to browse our open access, physician-catered knowledge center for all things vascular and interventional; now featuring practice tools, procedure walkthroughs, and expert guidance on more than 40 endovascular procedures.

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