Before You Quit

Before You Quit
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The purpose of BEFORE YOU QUIT is to bring courage and perspective when serving gets hard. Through an interview format, BYQ will address common struggles those in ministry face, and what they can teach us about resilience when the going gets tough.

  1. 1D AGO

    Podcast 161: The Church; Adopting and Fostering (Dr. Rich Griffith)

    In this episode, we explore a powerful vision from Reimagining Church as Family: the church’s role in fostering and adoption. While not everyone is called to adopt or foster, every church is called to be a family—a place where children and parents can truly belong. As believers adopted into the household of Christ, we have a unique opportunity to reflect that same love and welcome to others. I sit down with Dr. Rich Griffith to hear his personal journey as a single dad who adopted three boys, the challenges he faced—especially in pastoral ministry—and how the church became a true community of support and family. This conversation is both honest and hopeful, showing how the gospel is put on display through fostering, adoption, and the life of the church. ABOUT RICH Rich serves as professor of Youth Ministry at Toccoa Falls College. Rich Griffith is the single dad of three (adopted) sons, Aaron and Dylan and Jamie. After some time in the U. S. Army, he has spent 29 years in Youth Ministry exclusively while working in a variety of Church and Para-Church settings including Young Life (helping to pioneer Young Life’s ministry to early adolescents called “Wyld Life”), Ministry Architects and Military Community Youth Ministries. He has been a Lead Pastor while also still serving in a variety of Youth Ministry capacities. Obviously, he is passionate about youth, families, and the Church. He is a published Author and Contributor to “The Teen Devotional Bible” as well as other Youth and Ministry related publications. To order the book, click on the book cover The post Podcast 161: The Church; Adopting and Fostering (Dr. Rich Griffith) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    36 min

  2. APR 18

    Podcast 160: The Church, The Gospel and Grandparents (Pastor Larry Fowler)

    Second intervew on the book, Reimagining Church as Family! In this episode, we explore the powerful and often overlooked role of grandparents in God’s design for family discipleship, drawing from the vision behind Reimagining Church as Family and the work of Legacy Coalition. Larry Fowler shares his personal journey—including his move to Southern California to be closer to his family—and reflects on the spiritual legacy passed down grandparents to the future generation.  Together, we discuss why grandparents rank second only to parents as a spiritual influence, why that role is so often neglected by churches, and how grandparents can step into their biblical calling—even when their adult children are not leading spiritually. From practical strategies for long-distance impact to biblical examples and a redefinition of what it truly means to be a “good” grandparent, this conversation challenges both families and churches to rethink discipleship across generations and unlock the immense national potential sitting quietly in the grandparent generation. Deuteronomy 4:9 Only take care, and keep your soul diligently, lest you forget the things that your eyes have seen, and lest they depart from your heart all the days of your life. Make them known to your children and your children’s children— About Larry Fowler – Larry Fowler is the founder of Legacy Coalition, a national ministry focused on equipping Christian grandparents to fulfill their biblical role of impacting grandchildren. His over 50 years of involvement in children’s ministry include experience as youth pastor, missionary, international trainer of children’s workers, He is the author of Rock Solid Kids, one of the best-selling children’s ministry books ever, as well as several other books on children’s ministry, parenting, and grandparenting. Larry and his wife Diane have two grown children, seven grandchildren, and live in Riverside, California.   The post Podcast 160: The Church, The Gospel and Grandparents (Pastor Larry Fowler) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    34 min

  3. APR 14

    Podcast 159: How to Really Belong in Church (JJ Jones)

    What does “family” really mean—and what if the church was meant to be more than just a place we attend? In this powerful conversation, I sit down with JJ Jones to discuss his contribution to the book Reimagining Church as Family and the deeper, biblical vision of what it means to belong. When many of us hear the word “family,” we picture something like a perfect Norman Rockwell scene—but reality is often far more complex. From single parents and adoptive families to empty nesters and spiritual orphans, today’s world is filled with people searching for connection, purpose, and belonging. JJ challenges us to rethink the role of the church—not just as a support system for families, but as family itself. Together, we explore: What Scripture really says about family and belonging How the church can become a true spiritual home The meaning of being adopted into God’s family (John 1:12; Ephesians 2:19–22) Ministering to spiritual orphans, grandparents raising children, and those in transitional seasons Why every believer has a role in generational discipleship This conversation will challenge and encourage you to see the church the way God designed it—a place where everyone belongs, grows, and is called into purpose. If you’ve ever felt disconnected, overlooked, or unsure of your place in the church, this episode is for you. About JJ Jones JJ Jones, D.Min., M.Div., serves as pastor of groups at Fellowship Bible Church in Brentwood, Tennessee, and an adjunct professor at Toccoa Falls College. He has nearly 40 years in ministry and co-authored the book Reimagining Church as Family. He is passionate about equipping others to cultivate legacies of faith. He and his wife Anna live in Franklin, Tennessee, and have two children and two grandchildren. Order the book here. The post Podcast 159: How to Really Belong in Church (JJ Jones) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    45 min

  4. MAR 27

    Podcast 158: Respecting Pastoral Authority (Scott Mason)

    Church conflict doesn’t just hurt people—it clouds God’s glory and weakens the church’s witness to the world. While there are many causes, one often overlooked issue is that many church members haven’t been taught how to think well about pastoral authority or how to follow in a healthy, biblical way. In the wider world, “followership” is being studied more seriously, but the church has largely neglected it—or worse, confused it. Because of real concerns about abuse, many avoid talking about authority altogether. But ignoring it leaves the church vulnerable, especially in difficult seasons. This Podcast aims to help believers become wise, healthy followers who support godly leadership and contribute to a thriving church—one that ultimately brings glory to God. Order Scott’s book here! ABOUT SCOTT MASON: “Scott Mason spent half a career in the business world before being called to pastoral ministry. He spent 15 years serving as an associate pastor and a senior pastor at several churches of varying sizes. Some of these were established churches, and some were church plants. He has graduate degrees from the Elliot School of International Affairs at George Washington University and from Liberty Theological Seminary, as well as a Doctor of Ministry from Bethel Seminary.” The post Podcast 158: Respecting Pastoral Authority (Scott Mason) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    57 min

  5. MAR 24

    Podcast 157: WHAT ABOUT HELL! (Pastor Dan Samms)

    Several months ago, former actor and apologist Kirk Cameron stepped squarely on an evangelical hornet’s nest—and didn’t flinch. On a podcast with his son, he planted his apologetical feet firmly on one of the most controversial views of hell: annihilationism, also known as conditional immortality. The backlash was swift—but so was something else: renewed interest in a doctrine many have quietly avoided. What is hell, really? What does the Bible actually say? And how do we square it with a just and holy God? Now, I don’t agree with Cameron’s position—in fact, I think it’s dangerous. But I’ll say this: I’m glad we’re talking about it. Because the full gospel isn’t just comforting—it’s confronting. It tells a story of grace and glory, but also of judgment. And we can’t afford to edit that out. In this episode, I sit down with my go-to theology guy, Pastor Dan Samms, to dig into the biblical doctrine of hell, how it should be preached, and how we handle the tough, emotional questions that come with it. Pastor Dan is deeply committed to doctrine who believes if the pastor is going to be passionate about anything, it needs to be about what he believes concerning the truths of God’s Word. Dan’s primary role is equipping the saints to make disciples.  He pastors Restoration Church.  He also teaches theology for Liberty University and for Underground Seminary.  Dan is in love with his wife, Christy.  They have three kids, a few chickens, and an awesome dog named “Sam.”  Dan drinks good coffee, enjoys fine woodworking, and writes theology curriculum.  Christy is a licensed counselor.  She owns Hope Counseling and Consultation Services, LLC  and is an incredible mother who has a variety of hobbies .  Together, they raise their kids, lead the church, and enjoy God’s blessings and they do all that in Amherst, Oh.  The post Podcast 157: WHAT ABOUT HELL! (Pastor Dan Samms) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    37 min

  6. FEB 3

    Podcast 156: The Pastor and Trauma Counseling (John Kerr)

    We live in a broken world, and that can often leave us broken. Trauma is often the result of specific events in our lives that leave a lasting mark, often leading to a profound deep deep-seated sense of isolation and pain that can also lead us to make bad choices. A child is molested at a young age, and this event leaves a lasting mark as they grow older, finding it difficult to enjoy life, function well at work, or live in healthy relationships. A soldier sees things in war, comes home, and never talks about it with his family and friends. This is trauma. Even pastors face traumatic events. When people tell me they have been traumatized by a church, I will jokingly say, “Try pastoring for over thirty years, and I will talk to you about trauma.” In this podcast, John Kerr and I talk about how the pastor, or any Christian for that matter, can learn the skills on how to help people going through trauma. We also desire to help you if you have experienced trauma. We also talk about how there is hope in the gospel. Jesus, by dying on the cross, experienced more trauma than we ever will. And he understands us, provides comfort and healing in the gospel, and puts the right people in our lives to help us through our painful events. You can be set free from trauma. In Hebrews 4:15, we are given this wonderful promise: “For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet without sin.” John Kerr is a licensed counselor and graduated from Brown University. He lives in Toccoa Ga and currently working in addiction counseling. The post Podcast 156: The Pastor and Trauma Counseling (John Kerr) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    35 min

  7. JAN 22

    Podcast 155: Choosing Elders (Rev. Hobie Wood)

    Choosing godly elders is essential to the health of the church. Pastor Charles Swindoll writes, Every church is the lengthening shadow of those who lead it. Therefore, no issue is more important in any church than having the most-qualified people who model true spirituality serving in leadership as elders. This explains why the lists of qualifications in 1 Timothy 3:1–7 and Titus 1:5–9 are so strict and demanding. Unfortunately, in most churches of America, the method of appointing and selecting those who lead is skewed. In those churches, leaders are chosen by majority vote, having been selected because the candidates are good businessmen or popular among the congregation or wealthy or long-time members or well-known, impressive individuals in the community. Nice and important as those factors may be, they have nothing to do with whether a person is qualified to be a servant leader and to be able to guide the flock of God in a way that honors the Lord Jesus Christ. In this podcast, I interview Pastor Hobie Wood of Christ Presbyterian Church in Clarksville, GA, on his 14 years of experience choosing the right elders for your church. Hobie is married to Hannah, and they have 3 children. He is a native of Tiger, Ga., a graduate of Clemson University (B.S.) and Reformed Theological Seminary in Charlotte, NC (MDiv.). Prior to seminary and being called to be the pastor at Christ Presbyterian, Hobie and Hannah were on staff with Campus Crusade for Christ (Cru) at Appalachian State University in Boone, NC. He’s a rabid Clemson fan, a cyclist, and a (very) novice fly-fisherman. The post Podcast 155: Choosing Elders (Rev. Hobie Wood) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    30 min

  8. JAN 8

    Podcast 154: Growing Up Under Nazi Occupation (Janine Schultz)

    Those who grew up during World War 2 are gradually leaving us. Most who are alive are in their 90s or older. It’s important we keep their memories alive. Both my father and mother grew up in Europe and experienced the trauma of growing up under Nazi Occupation. In this podcast, I interview my 93-year-old mother about her story. Three years ago, my father passed away at the age of 93. My mother lives near us, and while diagnosed with stage three cancer, she remains independent and relatively healthy. For an interview I did with my father, you can click here.   The post Podcast 154: Growing Up Under Nazi Occupation (Janine Schultz) appeared first on Before You Quit.

    28 min
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The purpose of BEFORE YOU QUIT is to bring courage and perspective when serving gets hard. Through an interview format, BYQ will address common struggles those in ministry face, and what they can teach us about resilience when the going gets tough.

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    Before You Quit
  • Years Active
    2017 - 2026
  • Episodes
    100
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