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Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

  1. 3h ago

    Anthony Pursell

    Send us Fan Mail Commuters, buckle up. Phil celebrates Chris and Peter, which is awkward for everyone involved. Chris reveals the dangers of painting music stands without putting anything underneath them. Peter questions his own career choices. And apparently, Louisiana is a place you can leave but never truly escape. Our guest, Dr. Anthony Purcell, takes us on a musical journey from New Orleans to Illinois, Kansas, Texas, Missouri, and eventually back home to Louisiana, where he now leads the 300-member Spirit of Northwestern Marching Band. Along the way, we discuss the importance of trust, building thriving music programs, honoring traditions while creating new ones, and why regional universities might just be where the real magic happens. Anthony shares stories of Kmart cafeteria practice sessions, a near-career-ending music stand painting incident, and a marching band collision that makes us reconsider the value of marching backwards. He also introduces Assessment Sync, his innovative approach to bringing adjudicator feedback and performance video together. Stick around for a New Orleans speed round featuring beignets, gumbo, Bourbon Street, and a rather memorable description of a sousaphone. Laissez les bons temps rouler! Show Links: Learn More About Anthony Here Assessment Sync Reena Esmail Recordings: Reena Esmail: String Quartet - Salastina.  Salastina premieres an updated version of Reena Esmail's Hindustani-inspired string quartet, in which the composer herself sings the raag on which each movement is based. This performance took place on September 13, 2015 at the Colburn School. Kevin Kumar and Maia Jasper are joined by Robert Brophy (viola) and Peter Myers (cello).   https://youtu.be/CuryVFIg-h4?si=3geExRVlOrw_JoLn Bernstein conducts Mahler 9th ending: Leonard Bernstein conducts Mahler 9th ending. Wiener Philharmoniker 1975. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8YUIG3YgxQ REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Anthony Pursell

  2. Nov 7

    Greg Beckwith

    Send us Fan Mail Commuter has weighed in and feels that middle school band instrument repair stories are far and away the best.  Greg Beckwith has worked at Minnesota State SE Technical - Instrument Repair in Red Wing, MN for decades.  His students work all over the country after matriculating.  This regional program is one of the world’s best for band instrument repair!  Greg also correctly identifies all of the most bizarre instrument repair "who-done-it’s" in a speed round favorite.  Peter, Chris and Phil correctly identify how to stumble through a podcast. Learn More Here: https://mplspops.org/player-profile-greg-beckwith/https://www.southeastmn.edu/programs/band-instrument-repair/band-instrument-repair-aas/Midwest 2026 Come visit us at booth #1335 REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Greg Beckwith

  3. Oct 29

    Rebecca Arons

    Send us Fan Mail Becca Arons has contracted ensembles for countless major musical stars – from the Eagles, the Who, Ed Sheeran, Snoop Dog, Cory Wong and Aerosmith to Andrea Bocelli, Stevie Wonder, Weird Al Yankovich, Bob Newhart, Hugh Jackman, Johnny Mathis, Regis Philbin and Prince.  She has contracted orchestras for these broadway shows in just the last few years: the Great Gatsby, Wicked, Suffs, Final Fantasy, Mrs. Doubtfire, the Lion King, MJ, Some Like It Hot, Back to the Future.  Becca has performed with the St. Paul Chamber Orchestra, the Minnesota Orchestra, and is a long standing member of the Minnesota Opera Orchestra.  She teaches at St. Thomas University and has degrees from Oberlin and a doctorate in cello from UMN.  She is co-founder, owner of String Genius and founder of RDA Productions.  When she is not crazy busy with business, she is finding time to advocate and be an activist for musicians all over the twin cities.  Becca shares with us about her recent experience leading the negotiating committee for the Musicians of the Minnesota Opera Orchestra, including the most recent cancellation that has effectively led to the orchestra musicians being locked out. Please join Becca, Phil, Allison Ostrander and many other friends of the podcast on Sunday, November 1 at 7 PM at Ted Mann Concert Hall on the campus of the University of Minnesota Campus.  The Minnesota Opera Orchestra will be there, along with members of the MNOP Chorus, soloists and friends.  JOIN US!!!! https://www.stringenius.com/https://linktr.ee/musicians_of_mnoperaorchestra?utm_source=linktree_profile_share<sid=a72b0890-1ba9-4305-bf7c-6e540883e62bhttps://www.instagram.com/musicians_of_mnoperaorchestra/REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Rebecca Arons

  4. Oct 24

    Tobin Stewart

    Send us Fan Mail What does it take to be a great leader? On this episode of Beyond ArtLess, Tobin Stewart, Symphony Orchestra Director and Assistant Professor of Music at Montana State University, joins us to talk about leadership, musicianship, and lifelong learning. Drawing from his book Leading as a Conductor, Tobin shares insights on building ensemble culture, developing student leaders, finding your own leadership style, and knowing when to lead, delegate, or simply get out of the way. We also explore the connections between music and athletics, the value of singing in instrumental ensembles, and how a mountain biking accident changed the way he conducts. Then it’s off to Montana for a speed round featuring cold smoke, skijoring, and a few questionable attempts at humor. Commuters, there’s plenty to learn—and a few reasons to shake your head—along the way! Learn More About Tobin: https://www.montana.edu/music/directory/1524642/tobin-stewart https://www.tobinstewart.com/ https://giamusic.com/artists/tobin-stewart https://www.nmeanebraska.org/2026-all-state-orchestra REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Tobin Stewart

  5. Oct 17

    Angela Klinkner

    Send us Fan Mail Step right up!  Test your knowledge about farming in LaCrosse, Wisconsin!  Whoever can answer all the questions will immediately be sent all remaining Beyond Artless Season 1 overstock t-shirts.  Shipping not included.  Our guest Angela Klinkner is an authority on dairy farming, but is also a superstar sixth year teacher in Holmen, WI.  Her years of middle school band teaching in Houston, Texas helped her develop a strong approach to teaching fundamentals to young musicians.  She might win the award for most organized teacher ever.  Peter, Phil and Chris win the collective award for aimless banter.   Holmen High School Band Uniform Fundraiser  Holmen High School Band Website Uniform Fundraiser Article SHOW CREDITS Servant of Peace (Dorothy Gates) performed by Teddy Van Winkle - recorded on March 7th, 2022, in the University of North Texas Voertman Concert Hall. Accompanied by Dr. Joshua Vigran, piano. https://youtu.be/tcUfcwZ31Qw?si=Rntj8gVsFe9_4p6A REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Angela Klinkner

  6. Oct 10

    Randy Swiggum

    Send us Fan Mail What happens when deep commitment to music education, trailblazing pedagogy, and the pursuit of artistry come together in one remarkable career? You get Randy Swiggum, nationally recognized conductor, clinician, author, and leader in Comprehensive Musicianship through Performance (CMP). From Carnegie Hall to the Madison Metropolitan School District, where he currently serves as an Arts Teacher Leader, Randy has spent his career inspiring young musicians and challenging educators to rethink what great teaching can be. This week, we dig into relationships, emotional intelligence, music advocacy, and the neuroscience of music. We also explore 50 years of CMP as well as the upcoming State Music Conference featuring Dr. Anita Collins, Dr. Cecil Adderley, and Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser. Randy brings plenty of wisdom, perspective, and a reminder that three hosts still have a LOT to learn. Learn More About Randy Here https://www.foxvalleyartshalloffame.org/inductees/swiggumhttps://www.carnegiehall.org/Education/Programs/Music-Educators-Workshop/Summer-ProgramWisconsin State Music Conference Register Below! https://wmeamusic.org/conference-main-preview/conference/Comprehensive Musicianship through Performance (CMP) https://wmeamusic.org/cmp/ Anita Collins Links https://youtu.be/R0JKCYZ8hng?si=_YtkAUPbh8iwXqX4https://www.ted.com/talks/anita_collins_the_benefits_of_music_educationhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EMOhcsoLy0https://www.anitacollinsmusic.com.au/Recording Credits https://youtu.be/eYV1sxt-QAs?si=gaNlhzPW3iba1PqKHey Coach- This Is A Show Note https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Randy Swiggum

  7. Oct 3

    David Davis

    Send us Fan Mail Commuter, this week we’re talking about music education, change, and the seemingly radical idea that every kid deserves to see themselves in the music classroom. David Davis has gone from traditional music educator to change agent, working to make music education more inclusive, relevant, and equitable for all students. We talk about what needs to change, why literacy matters, and what happens when we stop treating the way we’ve always done things as the way we always have to do things. Peter, Chris and Phil also do their part to prove that systemic change is much easier to discuss than successfully executing a podcast. Learn More about David: https://educationminnesota.org/news/awards-and-honors/teacher-of-the-year/ https://nafme.org/member-profile/david-davis-2/ https://www.fox9.com/news/st-louis-park-music-teacher-named-minnesota-teacher-year Resources Mentioned: A Sound Approach to Teaching Instrumentalists: An Application of Content and Learning Sequences Nurtured by Love: The Classic Approach to Talent Education by Shinichi Suzuki and Waltraud Suzuki | Jun 1, 1993 Teaching Rhythm: New Strategies and Techniques for Success by David Newell (Author) Jump Right In: The Music Curriculum, Reference Handbook for Using Learning Sequence Activities by Edwin E. Gordon  REGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    David Davis

  8. Sep 26

    Lisa Linde

    Send us Fan Mail Finally, we have a guest that brings some no nonsense Boston sensibility to our upper Midwest goofball hosts.  Lisa Linde is long time music teaching wizard at Newton South High School in Massachusetts.  Her ensembles have won numerous awards and jazz ensemble has performed several times at Essentially Ellington.  She is also founder of jazzhers - a non profit founded to address the persistent gender disparity in jazz education and performance. Our hosts struggle through meaningless banter, aimless questions and a speed round that seems anything but speedy.  Thankfully, there’s only about 30 more episodes this season left.  Send any complaints directly to the coach - Tim Gleason. Learn More Here: https://www.jazzhers.com/homehttps://nafme.org/member-profile/lisa-linde/https://downbeat.com/news/detail/lisa-linde-downbeat-honor-for-achievement-in-jazz-educationhttps://www.midwestclinic.org/jazzprecon.htmlREGISTER NOW: 2027 BEYOND THE NOTE FESTIVALS - A few spots remain!! https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/festivals/ensembles/kalahari-1 COMMISSION POSSIBLE 2028 W/ OMAR THOMAS https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission Support the show

    Lisa Linde
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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

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  • Creator
    Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    169
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 beyond ArtLess
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