beyond ArtLess

Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

  1. Compilation 2: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

    9H AGO

    Compilation 2: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

    Send us a text This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies! REGISTER NOW: BUILDING BETTER BANDS DAY (MAY 23): https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education RISING MUSIC EDUCATOR PROGRAM (MAY 22): https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education FREE MUSIC:  Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”) https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0 THANKS TO: Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more!  https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor Support the show

    1h 7m
  2. Compilation 1: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

    6D AGO

    Compilation 1: 2025 Midwest Clinic Series

    Send us a text This Beyond ArtLess episode was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2025 Midwest Clinic. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies! FREE MUSIC:  Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”) https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0 Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”) https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/. (UNTIL JAN 1 ONLY THANKS TO: Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more!  https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor Support the show

    51 min
  3. Heidi & Dan Joosten

    12/21/2025

    Heidi & Dan Joosten

    Send us a text A first for the podcast – a brother and sister tandem.  Heidi and Dan (and their musician sister Sara) were destined for music from an early age – even though enrolling in college in unrelated fields.  Their parents, Beth and Mike Joosten have been music education fixtures in Wisconsin – now taking that approach to their woodworking business.  Heidi has been conducting multiple national tours of sound and screen shows, and also continues to compose, play piano and harp.  Dan is band director at Edgerton High School and also the Edgerton and Verona Community Bands.  Peter, Phil and Chris do their best to form complete sentences.  Be sure to hang in there until the end as we have a LIVE appearance from the Band Buzzler Creator and Architect – Paul Kile – dashing in before heading to Midwest with the Edina High School Band and Tim Mahr. Credits: "Boomba" For Wind Ensemble. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm5V1-JZH4Y Composed By Michael Barry, Conducted by Anthony Panther , Recorded by Adam Michalak , With the Hollywood Scoring Wind Ensemble  Score and Parts Available for Purchase: https://murphymusicpress.com/products...,  https://michaelbarrycomposer.com/store/ Respighi - Huntingtower (Ballad for Band) United States Air Force Band / Lt. Col. Lowell E Graham. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRxWbW0RheU Carmina Burana - Were du werlt alle min Richard Cooke, Carl Orff, Carmina Burana.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rBaCp3t5v4 FREE MUSIC:  Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”) https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0 Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”) https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/ THANKS TO: Our sponsor Silent Stage Podiums. https://www.arcofrog.com/silentstagepodiums We would love to partner with you too! Just head to our website to learn more!  https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/podcast#sponsor Support the show

    57 min
  4. Jodie Blackshaw

    12/13/2025

    Jodie Blackshaw

    Send us a text Beyond Artless: Featuring Composer Jodie Blackshaw In this episode of Beyond Artless, we are honored to welcome Jodie Blackshaw, internationally performed composer, educator, and creative voice whose music speaks with honesty, courage, and deep emotional resonance. Jodie shares her journey into composition and the stories behind writing music that asks conductors and performers to truly create. From embracing vulnerability in the creative process to navigating the responsibilities of writing meaningful, inclusive repertoire, she reflects on what it means to compose with purpose in today’s musical world. What you’ll hear in this episode: Jodie’s path to becoming a composer and educatorHow storytelling, emotion, and lived experience shape her musicThe balance between craft and courage in the compositional and performance processWriting with empathy, intention, and social awarenessAdvice for young composers and performers finding their artistic voiceThis conversation is a powerful reminder that music is more than sound on a page—it is connection, reflection, and invitation. Jodie’s insight challenges us to listen more deeply, create more bravely, and engage more fully with the stories we tell through music.  Tune in for a conversation that is thoughtful, inspiring, and deeply human—beyond artless. Credits: Percy Grainger's Colonial Song Percy Grainger (1882–1961) Colonial Song, edited by Timothy Topolowski and Larry Clark "The President's Own" United States Marine Band Recorded on Sunday, Feb. 2, 2025, at the Rachel M. Schlesinger Concert Hall and Arts Center in Alexandria, Va. Capt. Darren Y. Lin, conducting https://youtu.be/9LgwGfK-K7s?si=upWWiN6wt40pJoTl Whirlwind  Provided to YouTube by NAXOS of America Whirlwind (Australia, Winner 1st Prize - Category 1) · University of North Texas Symphonic Band The Winners & the Finalists: The 1st Frank Ticheli Composition Contest ℗ 2012 Mark Records Released on: 2012-08-07 Conductor: Dennis Fisher Ensemble: University of North Texas Symphonic Band Composer: Jodie Blackshaw https://youtu.be/RpXRdvNjZ_8?si=wNiS3FR_s9jEQG33 FREE MUSIC:  Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”) https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0 Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”) https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/ Midwest Step Up Contest Big thanks to our sponsor, Silent Stage Podiums! If you're heading to the Midwest Clinic, swing by Booth #748 before Friday at noon and snap a creative pic on the Silent Stage podium. Follow + tag Beyond The Notes (FB) to enter.  Winners announced on the BTN FB page at NOON on Friday, Dec. 19, 2025. Prizes:  • Best “Style” Photo: $20 Starbucks gift card + ArtLess shirt  • Random Winner: 30 seconds of airtime on the Beyond Artless Podcast (PSA, story, advice, joke… or roast Peter) See you at Midwest! Support the show

    1h 8m
  5. Tony Baker

    12/06/2025

    Tony Baker

    Send us a text Once again, this podcast manages to leave our guest feeling both uncomfortable and slightly disoriented. Today’s show features the incredible trombonist, educator, and all-around human gem Tony Baker, Professor of Trombone at the University of North Texas. Tony came prepared to talk about his education, experiences, and mentors—what he didn’t expect was a surprise visit from the 1996 Valleyfair Beach Band (of which he was a proud member). Add in a Band Buzzler, a Band Boozler, and the Coach, and you’ve got one unforgettable episode guaranteed to leave you just as uncomfortable and slightly disoriented. Learn More About Tony: https://music.unt.edu/people/tony-baker.html https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5fab22e730a5be1f90f837cd/t/604f878f301a5c6460259a5d/1615824812196/Tony+Baker+-+An+Artist%27s+Corner.pdf Credits: The Planets by Trouvère: The Earth Conductor: Larry H. Lang Orchestra: United States Air Force Band Composer: Jun Nagao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwLM6P7wIA FREE MUSIC:  Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”) https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0 Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”) https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/ Midwest Step Up Contest Big thanks to our sponsor, Silent Stage Podiums! If you're heading to the Midwest Clinic, swing by Booth #748 before Friday at noon and snap a creative pic on the Silent Stage podium. Follow + tag Beyond The Notes (FB) and Silent Stage Podiums (IG) to enter.  Winners announced on these platforms at NOON on Friday, Dec. 19, 2025. Prizes:  • Best “Style” Photo: $20 Starbucks gift card + ArtLess shirt  • Random Winner: 30 seconds of airtime on the Beyond Artless Podcast (PSA, story, advice, joke… or roast Peter) See you at Midwest! Beach Band Many Thanks to the 1996 Valleyfair Beach Band for making an appearance on the show! To book us for gigs, just reach out to Chris!  Want to watch the show?  Here you go: https://youtu.be/uXKxpVZbzNs Want to see the hole we dug? Here you go: Beach Band Photos 1996 Beach Band Members Kelley Lima Gus Lindquist Lee Peterson Eric Songer Gavin Wigg Todd Schendel Tony Baker Chris Gleason Support the show

    1h 3m
  6. Matt Turek

    11/29/2025

    Matt Turek

    Send us a text A giant leap across the pond to Germany for the podcast today with our guest, Matt Turek.  Matt has taught in just about every capacity one can - from elementary general and high school band in an urban environment to middle school suburban to now Grade 1-10 Music at an International School on the outskirts of Hamburg, Germany.  Matt is not afraid of teaching at any level!  Sadly, Peter should be afraid of endless prattle, Chris should be afraid of dated references in the classroom and Phil should be afraid of stumbling into actual work. Listen all the way to the end for an answer to the band buzzer and a musical challenge request from Michael Kasper.  And - a heartfelt answer to the question “What are you most proud of?” Learn More About Matt Here: https://wabeinternationalschool.de/about-us/our-team-old/ https://files-backend.assets.thrillshare.com/documents/asset/uploaded_file/2649/Bsd/99541e94-118c-491e-96d8-0c4af381b743/Spring_2018_District_Newsletter.pdf?disposition=inline Credits: Messiaen: Quartet for the End of Time Richard Nunemaker, Clarinet St. Thomas University, Houston, November 15, 2011 https://youtu.be/zYpBHc8px_U?si=J_Rkk-yEnIMs8_Wy Engelbert Humperdinck - Hansel and Gretel (Overture) (1893) Georg Solti conducting the Wiener Philharmoniker https://youtu.be/Z7xQL6ob4QU?si=u4zGJ_QowGz-Br3A UW Wind Ensemble Performance "Yellow Birds" by Marie Douglas Scott Teeple, conductor https://youtu.be/Kczcs84icAQ?list=PLambIxavELha3Z8rIV0C_gC60MuwjUUhe FREE MUSIC:  Wisconsin Arts Celebration Project (Marie Douglas “Yellow Birds”) https://dpi.wi.gov/fine-arts/wisconsin-arts-celebration-project-0 Beyond The Notes Music Festival (Erika Svanoe “Fanfare on Joy To The World”) https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/ Support the show

    1h 3m
  7. Tony Boldt

    11/23/2025

    Tony Boldt

    Send us a text In this episode of Beyond Artless, we sit down with Tony Boldt, a passionate educator and musician from Kasson-Mantorville Schools, whose leadership and creativity continue to shape the musical experiences of young performers in his community. Tony shares his journey as both a teacher and a performer—reflecting on how music shaped his life, what fuels his work in education, and the joys (and occasional chaos) that come with directing student musicians. With authenticity, humor, and heart, Tony blends musicianship with mentorship in a way that reminds us why music education matters. What you’ll hear in this episode: Tony’s path to becoming a music educator and performerThe realities of teaching band in a growing and evolving programWhy continuing to perform keeps him grounded as an educatorThoughts on building culture, connection, and student confidenceLessons learned from the classroom, podium, and community stageThe meaningful—and often hilarious—moments that define a music careerThis conversation celebrates the teachers who show up, lift others up, and inspire students to chase possibility. Tony’s perspective is a reminder that music education isn’t just about notes and technique—it’s about people, purpose, and lifelong artistry. Learn More About Tony Here: http://www.rochestercommunityband.org/dbpage.php?pg=director https://hub.yamaha.com/music-educators/40-under-40/2024/boldt-tony/ Credits Blue Parrot Rag, Martha Mier.  https://youtu.be/LpJ3lINGCDA?si=SdWxM10UEpOcacPySunbloom - Gavin Lendt (Concert Band, Grade 3). Gavin Lendt captures the energy and optimism of a new day in Sunbloom, a fast-paced and uplifting Grade 3 work inspired by the motion and momentum of a runner’s journey.  https://youtu.be/o0ZcvAWc_TQ?si=nY2clFACYCKXs2x8Hope Ahead, by Brian Balmages – Score & Sound https://youtu.be/SArtqsSQcxQ?si=DBNhriEYaB2i7wB7 Learn more about this ComMission Possible work here: https://www.btnmusicfestival.com/education/commission/archiveCHECK IT OUT! Check out our NEW Website and get a Grade 1.5 new work "Fanfare on Joy To The World" by Erika Svanoe.  PLUS Register For: ComMission Possible 2026 with Adrian SimmsRising Music Educator ProgramBuilding Better Bands DaySPECIAL GIFT TO OUR MOST DEDICATED COMMUTERS WHO ACTUALLY READ THE SHOW NOTES: https://youtu.be/yncdWVj31_A Support the show

    1h 6m
  8. Deanna Swoboda

    11/15/2025

    Deanna Swoboda

    Send us a text Fresh off the heels of our first — and let’s be honest, probably our only — live episode recording at the Wisconsin State Music Conference, we’re back and better than ever with an incredible guest: dynamic tuba artist and educator Deanna Swoboda. From her early inspirations to her innovative “Band Blast Off” program, Deanna takes us on a journey of how she’s brought the mighty tuba into the global spotlight. We dive into her entrepreneurial spirit, her mentorship of women in music, and how she manages to juggle artistry, education, and business without dropping the (brass) ball. It’s an episode full of laughter, insight, and a reminder that music really can move mountains — or at least shake the floorboards. Sound bites "The tuba is my voice to the world." "Mentorship shaped my musical journey." "Band Blast Off ignites young musicians' passion." "Women are redefining the music industry." "Artistry and entrepreneurship go hand in hand." "Daily wins lead to big successes." "Performing with Dallas Brass was transformative." "Music education is evolving rapidly." "Create your own opportunities in music." "Inspiring the next generation is my mission." Learn More About Deanna Here http://deannaswoboda.com/ https://search.asu.edu/profile/335939 https://www.eastmanwinds.com/deanna_swoboda Credits Grøndahl - Concerto for Trombone - Northwestern University Symphonic Wind Ensemble Dustin Nguyen, winner of the Bienen School of Music’s Concerto Competition, performs Launy Grøndahl’s Concerto for Trombone, arranged by Poul Ivan Møller. Doctoral assistant conductor Sheldon Frazier leads the Symphonic Wind Ensemble. Dustin is a master's student of Michael Mulcahy, R. Douglas Wright, Randall Hawes, Reed Capshaw, and Timothy Higgins. https://youtu.be/ToMaCj2ijdY?si=iT3e72XhvBOLAUqv CHECK IT OUT! Check out our NEW Website and get a Grade 1.5 new work "Fanfare on Joy To The World" by Erika Svanoe.  PLUS Register For: ComMission Possible 2026 with Adrian SimmsRising Music Educator ProgramBuilding Better Bands Day SPECIAL GIFT TO OUR MOST DEDICATED COMMUTERS WHO ACTUALLY READ THE SHOW NOTES: https://youtu.be/yncdWVj31_A Support the show

    56 min
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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

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  • Creator
    Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    136
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 beyond ArtLess
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