beyond ArtLess

Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
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beyond ArtLess

“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

  1. Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser

    MAY 31

    Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser

    Send us a text You've heard the phrase, "needs no introduction." Well, our final guest of Season 3 truly fits the bill—Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser joins us for an inspiring conversation about leading through turbulent times, serving others, and making the most of every moment. If you’re only tuning in for one episode this season (and we know that’s a real possibility), this is the one to catch. Thank you, commuters, for an incredible season. We’ll see you in the fall! Recording Credits "Tock" - JaRod Hall, Performed by the Cape Elizabeth Middle School Band, Cape Elizabeth Maine on May 8, 2025 ​Caitlin Ramsey and Missy Shabo, music educators. "Dune Aurora" by Jennifer Jolley (computer rendering) "Bubbles Was A Cheerleader" performed by the 1995 Disney All-American College Band w/ the exceptional tuba section. Trombones were....ok.  Support the show

    54 min
  2. Matt Pivec

    MAY 24

    Matt Pivec

    Send us a text What happens when you get three Gleasons who play tuba in the same ArtLess episode? Chaos. Pure, brass-fueled chaos. Fortunately, we’re joined by the ever-talented Matt Pivec, who brings not only his impressive musical accomplishments but also a touchdown story you truly have to hear to believe. Matt shares insights on balancing multiple interests, pushing back against the pressure to specialize too early, and how improvisation in education goes far beyond jazz solos. The conversation weaves through student engagement, the power of storytelling in the classroom, and how music festivals are expanding opportunities for young performers. Matt’s reverse speed round—and his razor-sharp wit—graciously offset the collective nonsense of this week’s five hosts (yes, five). Brace yourself for an episode that’s as enlightening as it is unreasonably tuba-heavy. Learn More about Matt Here: https://www.butler.edu/jordan-arts/undergraduate-programs/music/faculty-staff/jazz-area-faculty/ Recording Credits: Freddie Hubbard - You're My Everything [Alternate Take] https://youtu.be/iXltPEj4VhQ?si=f3-SGf5SKWXIb49R Hub-Tones (1963) Personnel: Freddie Hubbard (Trumpet) James Spaulding (Alto saxophone) Herbie Hancock (Piano) Reggie Workman (Bass) Clifford Jarvis (Drums) -- Alfred Lion (Producer) Rudy Van Gelder (Recording Engineer) Polka Tune Album - “Almost a Ton of Fat and Fun” Ernie Reck Polka Band Jerry Gleason on Tuba! Salvation Is Created - arr. Brown Rippling Watercolors - Balmages Earthdance - Sweeney Slow Burn - Svanoe Support the show

    1h 7m
  3. John Lynch

    MAY 18

    John Lynch

    Send us a text Show Notes: A week late, you say? So is our comedic and musical timing. You know who does have great timing? Dr. John Lynch, Director of Bands at UW-Stevens Point. It was a real treat to hear about his musical journey—one that’s taken him all around the globe (literally). In this episode, Dr. Lynch shares his perspective on cultural differences between Australia and the U.S., the importance of repertoire choices, the pursuit of quality in music, and the irreplaceable value of live performance. Recording Credits: "The Mooche" - Duke Ellington, Duke Ellington Orchestra, Jazz At Lincoln Center Orchestra Winternacht (Conductor Cam) | Hans Abrahamsen https://youtu.be/36t0GxwjOew?si=9M_Dh-potKEpa3Ao Musica Nova Ensemble, Eastman School of Music University of Wisconsin Marching Band On Wisconsin & Varsity & Hot Time  2010 Other Good Stuff: Got a question or comment?  Submit it here or email us at btnmusicfestival@gmail.com Support the show

    53 min
  4. Fran Kick

    MAY 11

    Fran Kick

    Send us a text There are leaders and there are followers. Thankfully, Fran Kick joins us this week to lead us through a delightful conversation. Granted, Peter, Phil and Chris DO get lost multiple times but Fran gracefully get us back on track. Check out Fran's amazing videos, resources, and books including the "Have to, Get to, Want to" video and article in the show notes! Show Notes: Learn more about Fran here: https://www.kickitin.com/ Have to, Get to, Want to [YouTube video] https://youtu.be/KtaMBeCjF3A Have to, Get to, Want to [Article] https://www.kickitin.com/have-to-get-to-want-to/ Recording Credits: Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back - Luke Meets Yoda for the First Time [CLIP] | TNT Other Good Stuff: Got a question or comment?  Submit it here or email us at btnmusicfestival@gmail.com Support the show

    57 min
  5. Our Biggest Interview Fail - Sorry Owen! By The Way Who Are You?

    MAY 3

    Our Biggest Interview Fail - Sorry Owen! By The Way Who Are You?

    Send us a text We saved the best for last. Enjoy our final interview from our Midwest 2024 booth. This interview features our good friend Owen. Where is he from? Don't know. What does he do? Not sure? What does he look like? Don't have a picture. Was he fun to interview? YES - in fact, he was amazing! Too bad you won't get to hear it.  We know we continue to meet, and perhaps, surpass your expectations each and every week. You can look forward to five more episodes this season. Who knows what will happen. Thanks for listening and putting up with this awful podcast. Chris will try to do better. Support the show

    13 min
  6. Midwest 2024 Compilation 2

    APR 26

    Midwest 2024 Compilation 2

    Send us a text This Beyond ArtLess Short was captured during our live recording sessions at the 2024 Midwest Clinic. A heartfelt thank you to Eric Songer and John Stewart for stepping in as guest hosts for several episodes. We’re especially grateful to everyone who willingly stopped by to participate in an interview—and to those who accidentally wandered down the wrong aisle and found themselves part of the action, our sincere apologies! Want to find out more about the Beyond The Notes Festival or ComMission Possible Project? Click here to learn more.   Got a question or comment?  Submit it here or email us at btnmusicfestival@gmail.com Support the show

    1h 15m
  7. Michael Markowski

    APR 19

    Michael Markowski

    Send us a text Phil asked one truly insightful question—alongside a few not-so-great ones—but we’re incredibly proud of how much he’s grown. Peter made an impressive comeback in PPTD, while Chris continues to meet challenges head-on (bless his heart). This week’s guest is the complete opposite of your usual hosts—thoughtful, intelligent, kind, and wildly creative. What a joy it was to chat with Michael Markowski about his music, his mentorship, and the magic behind his creative process.  Show Notes: https://www.michaelmarkowski.com/ Recording Credits: Songs that use Chromatic Mediant chords David Bennett https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtISkOeSz08 VIGILANTE by Michael Markowski ~ High School Honor Band~ 2025 GCBDA All District Honor Band ROBSON PERFORMING ARTS CENTER 306 views • Jan 29, 2025 • ROBSON PERFORMING ARTS CENTER Green Country Band Directors Association https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk0LiK5iP8I City Trees Michael Markowski, composer Performed by the Brooklyn Wind Symphony Brian Worsdale, conductor https://youtu.be/rZtaznyS-cM?si=ZM48uDOIuGmlwNRF "The Cave You Fear" by Michael Markowski Performed by the Brooklyn Wind Symphony Andy Pease, guest conductor Jeff W. Ball, artistic director https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4pOswwQAxQ Other Good Stuff: Got a question or comment?  Submit it here or email us at btnmusicfestival@gmail.com Support the show

    1h 1m
  8. Laura Dunbar

    APR 13

    Laura Dunbar

    Send us a text Maybe Chris should learn how to take notes.  Maybe Peter should learn how to arrange travel for guests.  Maybe Phil should learn how to interview.  Our guest Dr. Laura Dunbar can do all of these things better than our hosts and is also a world class educator!  Dr. Dunbar is head of music education studies at UW Eau Claire and also coordinates the Chippewa Valley Youth Choirs and directs the Very Young Composers of the Chippewa Valley Workshop.  Listen on as she describes her journey from small town Ohio through a PhD from University of Arizona.  Unlike our hosts, this guest knows how to ask the right questions!  Is it really ok to eat cereal without milk? Show Notes: https://www.uwec.edu/profiles/dunbarll https://chippewavalleyyouthchoirs.weebly.com https://veryyoungcomposersproject.org/very-young-composers-of-chippewa-valley Other Good Stuff: 1. Join ComMission Possible 2026 with JoAnne Harris and Carol Brittin Chambers - Deadline April 15. Click here to learn more 2. ORDER BEYOND ARTLESS SHIRTS HERE! https://bit.ly/ArtLessShirt 3. Got a question or comment?  Submit it here or email us at btnmusicfestival@gmail.com Support the show Support the show

    58 min
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“Beyond ArtLess" with Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander is a podcast that explores the friendships and the community that exists in and outside of the arts and arts education. In each episode of Beyond ArtLess, one of the hosts reveals his mystery guest to the other two. What comes next is a fun-filled conversation revealing the joy of friendship and the artlessness of the hosts. Unlike most successful classrooms, this show is not well planned and probably not worth your time. 

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  • Creator
    Chris Gleason, Peter Haberman & Phil Ostrander
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2025
  • Episodes
    116
  • Rating
    Explicit
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    © 2025 beyond ArtLess
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