Bold By Choice Podcast

National Charter Schools Institute

The Bold By Choice Podcast tells the untold stories of the charter school movement—its origins, innovations, and ongoing evolution. Hosted by Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner of the National Charter Schools Institute, each episode brings together bold thinkers, doers, and trailblazers who are shaping the future of public education. Whether you’re an authorizer, board member, school leader, teacher, or education advocate, Bold by Choice offers deep conversations, practical insights, and real-life stories from the frontlines of chartering. From navigating policy and governance to centering students and communities, this podcast is your go-to space for truth-telling, inspiration, and unapologetically bold ideas. Because chartering isn’t just a process—it’s a promise.

  1. S3 E9 Inquiry in Action

    1D AGO

    S3 E9 Inquiry in Action

    Guest: Tresha Ward, CEO, Prospect Schools (Brooklyn, NY) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute In this episode of the Bold by Choice Podcast, we travel to Brooklyn to spotlight Prospect Schools — one of New York City’s first intentionally integrated charter school networks, grounded in the International Baccalaureate framework and designed around inquiry, identity, and belonging. This season, in partnership with the Diverse Charter Schools Coalition, we’re highlighting schools that are intentionally diverse by design — and Prospect lives that commitment every day. CEO Tresha Ward shares how her journey as the daughter of West Indian immigrants and a first-generation college student shaped her leadership and her commitment to ensuring students are not just college-ready, but life-ready. From shadowing students each year to building systems where every child is known by at least one adult, Tresha unpacks how intentional diversity and inquiry-driven learning prepare students to thrive in complex, global spaces. Prospect reminds us that excellence and belonging aren’t opposites — they’re partners. Stay Bold by Choice. Show Notes • Season 3 Partner: Diverse Charter Schools Coalition • Prospect Schools is one of NYC’s first intentionally integrated charter networks • Grounded in the International Baccalaureate (IB) framework • Students engage in interdisciplinary, inquiry-based learning • CEO shadows students annually to lead through a student lens • Strong adult culture with 80%+ staff retention • Expanding focus on life-ready skills: digital literacy, financial literacy, college persistence & career preparation • Alumni partnerships supporting students beyond high school graduation #SchoolBrag

    37 min
  2. S3 E8 Bilingual by Design

    FEB 18

    S3 E8 Bilingual by Design

    Guest: Gayle Nadler, Executive Director & Co-Founder, Multicultural Learning Center (Los Angeles, CA) Host: Vashaunta Harris Powered by: National Charter Schools Institute What happens when language, culture, and belonging are treated as strengths — not barriers? In this powerful episode of Bold by Choice, host Vashaunta Harris travels to Los Angeles to sit down with Gayle Nadler, co-founder and executive director of Multicultural Learning Center (MLC), a TK–8 public charter school that has been living out the promise of bilingual, inclusive education for more than 20 years. Gayle shares the deeply personal story that shaped MLC’s design — from her fourth-grade experience being bused across Los Angeles into a bilingual classroom where she longed to belong, to the living-room conversations with her mother that led them to open a dual-language charter school during California’s ban on bilingual education (Proposition 227). Just days after opening, the school faced the national trauma of 9/11 — a moment that cemented MLC’s mission to prepare students to navigate a complex, interconnected world with empathy, confidence, and voice. Listeners will hear how MLC’s two-way bilingual immersion model treats every student as a language learner, why cultural identity is central to academic success, and how classrooms are intentionally designed for joy, movement, collaboration, and inclusion. Gayle also reflects on alumni stories that reveal the long-term impact of the school — graduates who advocate across cultures, challenge injustice, and carry confidence into college, careers, and community life. The conversation closes with reflections on leadership, balance, listening to students, and what it truly means to be bold in education. Episode Highlights: A fourth-grade experience that inspired a lifelong commitment to belonging Founding a bilingual charter school during California’s ban on bilingual education Designing classrooms where language, culture, and identity are assets Alumni stories that reveal the long-term impact of dual-language learning A scholarship fund rooted in legacy, community, and giving back Leadership lessons on balance, accountability, and leading with heart If you believe schools should reflect the world students live in — and help them thrive within it — this episode is for you. Share this episode with someone who believes in bilingual education, inclusive design, and public schools built on love and purpose. And don’t forget to share your own #SchoolBrag story with us. Until next time — stay Bold by Choice.

    52 min
  3. S3 E7 School as Community

    FEB 11

    S3 E7 School as Community

    Guests: Mike Chalupa & LaShawn Bowser Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner What does it look like when a public school is designed around a single, powerful question: What would it take for every student to be known, loved, and inspired academically? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner head to Baltimore to spotlight City Neighbors—a family of public charter schools that has spent nearly two decades proving what’s possible when creativity, authentic relationships, and student agency sit at the center of learning. City Neighbors began not in a boardroom, but in a living room—where 17 families gathered around a quilt-covered table, dreaming up the best school they could imagine for their children. From that vision grew one of Maryland’s earliest charter schools, now expanded into three campuses serving nearly 900 students across two K–8 schools and a high school. The through-line has never changed: small communities, deep relationships, and learning that matters. Mike Chalupa, Executive Director and founding leader, shares how his own middle-school experience—watching the clock tick toward dismissal—shaped his commitment to building schools where students don’t want learning to end. LaShawn Bowser, school leader at City Neighbors Hamilton, reflects on her journey from youth counseling to education and the moment she realized that how students experience their school day shapes everything else in their lives. Together, they unpack what makes City Neighbors distinct: Public project-based learning grounded in real questions and real work Reggio Emilia–inspired design, treating students as capable, creative, and worthy of deep respect Arts integration as a core academic strategy Intentional physical spaces that signal calm, dignity, and collaboration Teacher autonomy and professionalism, where educators design learning with students, not just for them Listeners hear powerful stories—from a student who learned she no longer had to change herself to fit school, to graduates who name the adults who loved them when it wasn’t easy, to projects that helped students see themselves as problem-solvers and creators in the world. The conversation also pulls back the curtain on leadership: the hard days, the failures that become learning moments, and the long-game mindset required to do human-centered work well. As Mike and LaShawn remind us, this is journey work—and transformation doesn’t happen on a timetable. This episode is a reminder that: Joy, beauty, and belonging are academic strategies Failure is an event, not an identity Great schools are built by communities brave enough to ask different questions If you believe public schools can be places where students are fully themselves—brilliant, curious, messy, creative, and whole—this is a #SchoolBrag you won’t want to miss. Listen in and be inspired by City Neighbors—where students are truly known, deeply loved, and academically inspired.

    46 min
  4. E3 E6 Neurodiversity in Action

    FEB 4

    E3 E6 Neurodiversity in Action

    Guest: Dr. Matthew Tyson, CEO, Tapestry Public Charter School Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by: National Charter Schools Institute What if schools were designed around real children—their strengths, their differences, their pace, and their potential? In this episode of Bold by Choice, we travel to Georgia to spotlight Tapestry Public Charter School, a middle and high school where neurodiversity isn’t just accepted—it’s celebrated. Founded by parents seeking something better for their children, Tapestry was built as a fully inclusive learning environment where neurotypical and neurodivergent students learn side by side, supported by co-teachers, small class sizes, individualized learning plans, and a deep culture of belonging. Hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Dr. Matthew Tyson, Tapestry’s CEO, whose journey—from special education teacher to charter leader—has been shaped by a lifelong belief that a child’s zip code or learning style should never define their future. Growing up in a neurodiverse family and moving frequently across states, Dr. Tyson saw firsthand how uneven educational systems can be—and why schools must evolve. Throughout the conversation, Dr. Tyson shares powerful stories that bring Tapestry’s model to life, including: A former student once written off academically who went on to master college-level math Why “every classroom is a special education classroom—in the best way possible” How co-teaching, double planning periods, and student ownership fuel teacher retention and joy What it took to advocate at the Georgia State Capitol—and win bipartisan support—to expand charter access after years of district denials Why inclusion isn’t a program, but a belief system that shapes every decision With a 100% graduation rate, a long waiting list, and a second campus opening in Clayton County, Tapestry shows what’s possible when schools center dignity, flexibility, and high expectations for every learner. As Dr. Tyson reminds us, “It’s never the kids—it’s on us.” And when educators design with love, courage, and persistence, students don’t just succeed—they belong. This is a true #SchoolBrag episode—one that challenges assumptions, honors student voice, and reimagines what inclusive public education can be. Listen in and share with anyone who believes schools should work for all kids—not just some. Learn More Tapestry Public Charter School: https://www.tapestrycharter.org Diverse Charter Schools Coalition: Schools like Tapestry are proud members of DCSC

    42 min
  5. S3 E5 STEM, Think Big. Build Big

    JAN 28

    S3 E5 STEM, Think Big. Build Big

    Bold by Choice, powered by the National Charter Schools Institute, is hosted by Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner. In this episode, they travel to Utah to spotlight a school that proves what’s possible when STEM education, diversity, and belonging come together with purpose. Our guest is Halis Kablan, Secondary Principal at Beehive Science and Technology Academy—a school that began nearly 20 years ago with just 150 students in the basement of an office building and has grown into a thriving K–12 STEM community serving nearly 880 students. Beehive was founded on a bold belief: science and technology education is for everyone—especially immigrant, multilingual, and underrepresented students. Today, the school serves families from 48 countries, speaking 60+ languages, making it one of the most diverse school communities in Utah. In this conversation, Halis shares his personal journey—from studying biology in Turkey and discovering teaching by chance, to dedicating 18 years to Beehive’s mission of equity through STEM. He reflects on what keeps educators committed for decades, why students want to come to school, and how hands-on learning unlocks joy, confidence, and passion. You’ll hear powerful stories from inside Beehive’s classrooms, including: Students designing, testing, and launching hot air balloons and rockets Robotics teams competing at state, national, and international levels Alumni returning to mentor current students Teachers integrating STEM across every subject—from kindergarten through high school A culture where being “into STEM,” robotics, or D&D is celebrated, not sidelined Beehive’s results speak for themselves: the school has been named a U.S. News & World Report Best High School multiple years in a row and ranked #1 in Utah for five consecutive years—all while staying rooted in community, collaboration, and love for students. As Halis reminds us, the real measure of success isn’t just rankings—it’s when students come home excited to talk about their day, when shy learners find their voice, and when passion turns into purpose. If you believe excellence doesn’t require perfect conditions—only clarity of mission—this episode is for you. Share this conversation with an educator, leader, or parent who believes in STEM for all, culturally responsive education, and schools built on belonging. And don’t forget to share your own #SchoolBrag story—we want to hear how your school is building possibility for students. Stay bold. Stay curious. Stay in the community.

    27 min
  6. S3 E4 Beyond College Prep

    JAN 21

    S3 E4 Beyond College Prep

    Guest: Steven Palmer, Leader, Valor Collegiate Academies (Nashville, TN) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by: National Charter Schools Institute What happens when a school refuses to choose between academic rigor and student well-being? In this episode of Bold by Choice, we travel to Nashville, Tennessee, to spotlight Valor Collegiate Academies—a nationally recognized, high-performing charter network designed around one bold belief: students thrive when their minds, bodies, and spirits are developed together. Steven Palmer, a Teach For America alum and longtime Valor leader, shares how Valor was intentionally designed to address three urgent challenges facing students today: the academic opportunity gap, the student mental-health crisis, and growing polarization in our communities. Rather than treating these as competing priorities, Valor built a student-centered, whole-child model that integrates rigorous academics with deep social-emotional learning, strong relationships, and student voice . What You’ll Hear in This Episode How Valor empowers students through student-led “Changemakers” coalitions that elevate student voice and agency Why, daily feedback loops, coaching for every adult, and real-time support outperform waiting for year-end test scores How the Compass Model (mind, body, spirit) shows up in classrooms, circles, and culture every single day A powerful student story that illustrates what happens when educators refuse to blame children and instead ask, “What do they need right now?” Why families rate Valor so highly—and what a 9.08/10 family recommendation score says about trust, belonging, and joy Steven also reflects on one of the simplest—and hardest—truths in education, passed down from a veteran teacher early in his career: “Love the kids. You’ll figure the rest out.” Why This Episode Matters This conversation reminds us that great schools are not built on compliance or shortcuts. They’re built through intentional design, relentless care, and teams that refuse to give up on students—even when the work is hard. As Steven puts it, when schools are at their best, they become places where students can say: “I think I’m starting to love this school again.” That’s not accidental. That’s leadership. That’s design. That’s Bold by Choice. Join the Conversation If this episode inspired you, share it with an educator or family member who believes schools can be places of joy, rigor, and belonging. And tell us your own #SchoolBrag—we want to hear about schools doing right by kids.

    30 min
  7. S3 E3 Designed With Students

    JAN 14

    S3 E3 Designed With Students

    Guest: Dr. Sundai Riggins, Head of School — Inspired Teaching Demonstration School (Washington, D.C.) Hosts: Vashaunta Harris & Jim Goenner Powered by the National Charter Schools Institute What happens when students aren’t just served by a school, but help design it? In this episode of Bold by Choice, hosts Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner sit down with Dr. Sundai Riggins, Head of School at Inspired Teaching Demonstration School in Washington, D.C., for a powerful conversation about student voice, belonging, joy, and whole-child design. Dr. Riggins shares her journey as a career educator and the beliefs that shape Inspired Teaching’s model—where students are treated as co-designers, learning is inquiry-based, and joy is viewed as an act of resistance. From student-led theatrical productions and intersession experiences to small learning environments, two adults per classroom, and open feedback loops, this episode brings listeners inside a school community intentionally built with students, not just for them. You’ll hear: How Inspired Teaching empowers students with agency, responsibility, and confidence, including backstage student leadership in school productions Why children’s individuality and energy are assets, not obstacles How academics and whole-child learning are balanced through inquiry, feedback, and flexible design Why mentorship, open practice, and community engagement are central to the school’s mission How love, relationships, and belonging serve as the school’s true “secret sauce.” Dr. Riggins reminds us that students won’t be students forever—they’re future citizens. Schools, at their best, prepare young people not just to succeed academically, but to know their voices matter, to advocate for themselves, and to carry confidence beyond school walls S3 E3 This is a conversation about designing schools that honor humanity, cultivate joy, and expand what’s possible when we trust students with real responsibility. If this episode inspired you, share it with an educator or parent who believes schools should be built around curiosity, community, and care—and tell us your own #SchoolBrag story. Stay bold. Stay mission-driven. Stay in the community.

    34 min

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The Bold By Choice Podcast tells the untold stories of the charter school movement—its origins, innovations, and ongoing evolution. Hosted by Vashaunta Harris and Jim Goenner of the National Charter Schools Institute, each episode brings together bold thinkers, doers, and trailblazers who are shaping the future of public education. Whether you’re an authorizer, board member, school leader, teacher, or education advocate, Bold by Choice offers deep conversations, practical insights, and real-life stories from the frontlines of chartering. From navigating policy and governance to centering students and communities, this podcast is your go-to space for truth-telling, inspiration, and unapologetically bold ideas. Because chartering isn’t just a process—it’s a promise.