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A podcast for long distance besties everywhere. Co-hosted by BFFs Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow. Produced by Gina Delvac. Brand new every Friday.

Call Your Girlfriend Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.7, 3.5K Ratings

A podcast for long distance besties everywhere. Co-hosted by BFFs Ann Friedman and Aminatou Sow. Produced by Gina Delvac. Brand new every Friday.

    The Trapdoor: Summer of Friendship #6

    The Trapdoor: Summer of Friendship #6

    Race plays out differently in every friendship. And not all interracial relationships involve a Black person and a white person, but ours does. 

    As Wesley Morris wrote in his memorable review of the forgettable movie Ted 2:

    "For people of color, some aspect of friendship with white people involves an awareness that you could be dropped through a trapdoor of racism at any moment, by a slip of the tongue, or at a campus party, or in a legislative campaign. But it’s not always anticipated. You don’t expect the young white man who’s been seated alongside you in a house of worship to take your life because you’re black. Nor do you expect that a movie about an obscene teddy bear would invoke a sexual stereotype forced upon you the way Kunta Kinte was forced to become “Toby.” "

    Wesley talked with Aminatou about the trapdoors of interracial friendship, Joe Biden, friend breakups, and yes, Ted 2, in an interview we recorded while writing Big Friendship in 2019.

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    Wesley Morris is a critic-at-large for The New York Times and the co-host of one of our favorite podcasts, Still Processing.


    Wesley Morris on Ted 2


    Pat Parker: For the white person who wants to know how to be my friend

    • 57 min
    The Stretch: Summer of Friendship #5

    The Stretch: Summer of Friendship #5

    We stretch when we grow with, and in response to, a friend. But it can be hard to figure out: How do you know how much to give to a friendship—and take from it? We talk to therapist Jordan Pickell about interdependence and the blurry line between leaning on friends and asking too much of them.

    • 44 min
    The Story of Sameness: Summer of Friendship #4

    The Story of Sameness: Summer of Friendship #4

    We did not write a “female friendship” book, but we are indeed two women. And our friendship has been both strengthened and threatened by the ways we communicate. We interview linguist Deborah Tannen, whose book You’re the Only One I Can Tell: Inside the Language of Women's Friendships was a touchstone for us—explaining concepts like "story of sameness," one way that some friends bond by finding similarities in each other's lives. Catch the virtual book tour and get a copy of Big Friendship at bigfriendship.com

    • 44 min
    Big Friendship

    Big Friendship

    Days away from the release of Big Friendship, Aminatou and Ann share key definitions from the book and read a passage about a very challenging time in their friendship, early in the life of this podcast. Catch the virtual book tour and get a copy at bigfriendship.com

    • 37 min
    Teen Feelings: Summer of Friendship #2

    Teen Feelings: Summer of Friendship #2

    We learn about young Aminatou and Ann from Faith and Bridget, our high-school besties—who both remain close friends today.

    • 1 hr 9 min
    Origin Stories: Summer of Friendship #1

    Origin Stories: Summer of Friendship #1

    We kick off a summer dedicated to friendship—its joys and its difficulties—as we get ready for the release of Big Friendship. On this episode, we talk about our friendship origin story, and interview our mutual friend Dayo Olopade about how she knew we'd hit it off. Also, we're looking for your voicemails about long-term friendship—stories about difficult patches you've survived, and also your questions for us about keeping friendships strong in the long term. Leave us a message at (714) 681-2943.

    • 55 min

Customer Reviews

4.7 out of 5
3.5K Ratings

3.5K Ratings

captain inmo ,

Always learning and often laughing

I know that each episode I’m going to learn something and most likely laugh a lot too. They have eclectic smart guests and Aminatou and Ann have the intellectual and down to earth conversations that I love!

itwasalladream ,

Trapdoor

Wow, the trapdoor episode. Thank you.

siestaqueen ,

Relatable and delightful

This is one of my favorite podcasts! I love the friendship between Aminatou & Ann, their range of amazing (primarily) female guests, the topics they cover and their love of books. I get so many great recommendations from this pod and their topics discussed are jumping off points for my friendship circles.

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