Cardinal Crimes

Cardinal Crimes

Cardinal Crimes is a true crime podcast that explores cold and unsolved cases, criminal behavior, and crime prevention.  The host, Becca, is a former Intelligence Analyst interested in the "why" behind crime, the systems that shape it, and the ways we can prevent it. 

  1. MURDERED: Leota Camp

    3D AGO

    MURDERED: Leota Camp

    When a 25-year-old mother is stabbed to death in her bedroom in broad daylight, shock ripples through her quiet neighborhood. Witnesses reported seeing a man leaving the scene in a Mustang, but despite investigators’ efforts, both the suspect and the vehicle seem to vanish without a trace. Nearly 60 years later, the case remains unsolved. In this episode, we examine the 1967 murder of Leota Camp in Des Moines, Iowa. From the crime scene and autopsy findings to the puzzling lack of a clear motive, we break down the details of a case that continues to raise more questions than answers. SOURCES:  Woman, 25, Is Slain Here, July 10, 1967, The Des Moines TribuneHatfield, Richard, Searching For Motive in Slaying, July 11, 1967, The Des Moines TribuneBrewer, Norman, 2 Knives Used in Slaying: Handle of One Not Found, July 12, 1967, The Des Moines TribuneDetective at Rites of Mrs. Camp, July 13, 1967, The Des Moines TribuneBrewer, Norman, Two Months Later, Camp Looks Back, September 13, 1967, The Des Moines TribunePolice Press Investigation Into Slaying in Des Moines, July 11, 1967, Iowa City Press CitizenKilen, Mike, Who Killed Leota Camp? 48 Years Later, and Still No Answer, July 27, 2015, Iowa City Press Citizen, The Des Moines RegisterDes Moines Hunts Housewife’s Killer, July 11, 1967, Quad City TimesDM Woman Found Slain, July 11, 1967, Quad City TimesHunt Killer of Young Mother of 3 at Des Moines, July 11, 1967, The CourierThink ‘Kook’ Killed Mom of Three, July 12, 1967, The CourierSeek killer of Des Moines housewife stabbed to death, July 12, 1967, The Denison BulletinBeaumont, James, HUNT SLAYER OF D.M. WOMAN: A YOUNG MAN IN BLACK CAR SEEN AT HOME, July 11, 1967, The Des Moines RegisterLamberto, Nick, Doctor Feels ‘Kook’ Killed D.M. Woman, July 12, 1967, The Des Moines RegisterLamberto, Nick, Reveal Slain Woman Got Obscene Call, July 14, 1967, The Des Moines RegisterZelenka, Julie, Seek Suspect in D.M. Slaying, July 21, 1967, The Des Moines RegisterDoak, Dick, Camp Reward in D.M. Killing, August 17, 1967, The Des Moines RegisterZelenka, Julie, Police Ask Aid in Tracing Car, August 20, 1967, The Des Moines RegisterLamberto, Nick, House Prowlings Rise, Police Vow ‘War’, January 23, 1974, The Des Moines RegisterList of ‘case open’ slayings in Iowa, September 8, 1974, The Des Moines RegisterLloyd “Ray” Camp Obituary, June 30, 2024, The Des Moines Sunday RegisterMendiola, Jose, Iowa Cold Case: Four unsolved cases in Des Moines share July 10 dateDriver seen near murder site sought, July 11, 1967, The Gazettehttps://iowacoldcases.org/case-summaries/leota-camp/Support the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    32 min
  2. MURDERED: Ashley Okland

    APR 27

    MURDERED: Ashley Okland

    In this episode, we examine the 2011 killing of Ashley Okland, a real estate agent from West Des Moines who was shot while hosting an open house in a model townhome. What began as a routine workday became one of Iowa’s most closely followed unsolved cases. We cover Ashley’s life, the timeline of the investigation, and the major break in the case: the March 2026 arrest of 53-year-old Kristin Ramsey, charged with first-degree murder. We discuss how, despite little being released publicly over the last 15 years, recent filings suggest Ramsey may have been on investigators’ radar from the very beginning.  We *might* also have a bonus episode ahead with comments from her attorney, Alfredo Parrish.  Sources:  Terrell, Laura, West Des Moines police make arrest in 15-year-old cold case of murdered realtor Ashley Okland, KCCI, March 18, 2026 Probe continues in agent’s death, Iowa City Press Citizen, May 7, 2011 Elmer, Mackenzie, West Des Moines police are no closer to arrest in Okland case, July 30, 2015, Iowa City Press Citizen Wingert, Kelby, Prosecutors challenge motion to block cellphone search in Ashley Okland murder case, April 22, 2026, KCCI Real estate agent fatally shot, April 9, 2011, Quad City Times Iowa vs Kristin Ramsey, State’s r resistance to defendant’s motion for bond reduction, Criminal No. FECR051688, April 8, 2026, Dallas County Clerk of District Court Finney, Daniel, Elbert David, Stegmeir, Mary, Real estate agent killed on the job, April 9, 2011, Des Moines Register Belz, Adam, Bemann, Perry, No leads in agent’s shooting, April 10, 2011, Des Moines Register Ashley Okland Obituary, April 11, 2011, The Des Moines Register Stegmeir, Mary, Man seen with Okland is sought, April 12, 2011, The Des Moines Register Eller, Donnelle, Realtors group pushing safety, April 12, 2011, The Des Moines Register Stegmeir, Mary, 1,600 mourn death of agent, April 15, 2011, The Des Moines Register Stegmeir, Mary, Search warrant issued in murder, April 16, 2011, The Des Moines Register Pullman, Jason, Reward to $66,785 in Okland homicide, April 17, 2011, The Des Moines Register Stegmeir, Mary, Okland case reward sets tip-line mark, April 19, 2011, The Des Moines Register Stegmeir, Mary, Shooting of agent still mystifies, May 6, 2011, The Des Moines Register Search warrants sealed in Okland case, May 11, 2011, The Des Moines Register Stegmeir, Mary, Police probe link to agent who killed himself, June 25, 2011, The Des Moines Register Elmer, Mackenzie, West Des Moines police no closer to arrest in Okland case, August 26, 2015, The Des Moines Register Werner, Kyle, Jett, Tyler, Suspect arrested in cold-case shooting, March 19, 2026, The Des Moines Register Werner, Kyle, Ramsey maintains innocence, March 20, 2026, The Des Moines Register Werner, Kyle, Jett, Tyler, Ashley Okland suspect worked for townhome developer, March 20, 2026, The Tribune Email correspondence with Mr. Alfredo Parrish, April 24, 2026 https://www.courttv.com/news/woman-charged-with-realtors-2011-cold-case-murder-released-on-bond/ Support the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    27 min
  3. UPDATE: Keara Coshow

    MAR 2

    UPDATE: Keara Coshow

    On July 12, 1979, a fire at the Hill Top Motel in Red Oak, Iowa, claimed the life of 3-year-old Keara Coshow. Despite known suspicions of child abuse from Keara's stepmother, Karen, and Keara being nearly blind from an injury many suspect was inflicted upon her by her stepmother, investigators ruled the fire and Keara's death a tragic accident.  The investigation was reopened in 2007 and closed in 2010 with the same conclusion: the fire and Keara's death were an accident.  But, in 2025, the Iowa Attorney General's Office released a deck of Iowa Cold Case cards, and I was surprised to find Keara's face among them, with her being labeled "homicide victim", and the card stating the fire was ruled arson.  I reached out to the Iowa Attorney General's Office and the Iowa Cold Case Unit to request clarification. The Iowa Cold Case Unit responded, and in this episode, I give an update on what they told me: they DON'T know why there is a discrepancy. But they are looking into this case, which I consider a win.  If you have ANY INFORMATION at all, please contact the Iowa Cold Case Unit: Their email: coldcase@ag.iowa.gov Listen to my previous episode on Keara Coshow: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cardinal-crimes/id1781462994?i=1000695493302 Or watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/WInjK111ydE?si=YW1dTfJ0UVzArgua Sources:  Voicemail & phone conversation with Iowa Cold Case Investigator Chad Lovig, November 2025Roy Marshall, Investigation Report Case #7907361, State of Iowa Department of Public Safety State Fire Marshal DivisionState of Iowa Death Certificate (certified reproduction of original record), Keara Coshow, Issued April 23, 2007. Jon Mathis, Closing and Disposition Record Case #0706806, Iowa Department of Public Safety Division of Criminal InvestigationIowa Cold Cases Playing Cards, 1st Edition, Iowa Office of the Attorney General, Department of Corrections, Sheriff's & Deputies Association, Iowa Police chiefs Association, Iowa County Attorneys Association, April 16, 2025Jody Ewing, Keara Coshow Case Summary, Iowa Cold Cases, https://iowacoldcases.org/case-summaries/keara-coshow/Rossi, R., Lodise, M., Lancia, M., Bacci, M., De-Giorgio, F., & Cascini, F. (2014). Trigemino-cardiac reflex as lethal mechanism in a suicidal fire death case. Journal of forensic sciences, 59(3), 833–835. https://doi.org/10.1111/1556-4029.12408Support the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    20 min
  4. MURDERED: Joe Rapini

    FEB 16

    MURDERED: Joe Rapini

    This week, we continue our deep dive into the suspected victims of serial predator Mike DeBardeleben. The women we’ve discussed so far were all real estate agents targeted while showing homes to male clients. But today’s case breaks that pattern entirely. In this episode, we examine the murder of Joe Rapini, who was taken hostage alongside his roommate, David Starr. What followed was a calculated and terrifying bank robbery and extortion scheme. Under explicit threats, David, a bank manager, was forced to withdraw nearly $38,000 from his own vault to satisfy the masked gunman’s demands. But even after the money was delivered, Joe Rapini was killed. The extortion money was never recovered. And although Mike DeBardeleben emerged as a prime suspect, he was never formally charged in the case. Join us as we unpack the timeline, the unanswered questions, and what links this case to one of the most methodical criminals we’ve ever covered. Purchase Stephen Michaud’s book “Beyond Cruel” - https://books.apple.com/us/book/beyond-cruel/id6503722963 Sources:  Phillips, Kate & Mandelaro, Doug, Bank audit shows $37,000 ransom, April 20, 1983, The Times UnionPhillips, Kate & Martelle, Scott, Extortion victim eulogized; ransom drop site revealed, April 19, 1983, The Times UnionMeade, Laura, Trail is cold but search goes on for man’s killer, June 1, 1983, The Democrat and ChronicleMeade, Laura, Gunman wanted 3rd hostage, April 20, 1983, The Democrat and ChronicleMeade, LauraHostage slaying baffles police, April 16, 1983, The Democrat and ChronicleRedmond, Jim, Body found after Greece extortion try, April 15, 1983, The Democrat and ChronicleSearch for leads in slaying, April 19, 1983, The Democrat and ChroniclePhillips, Kate, Witnesses sought in extortion and slaying, April 18, 1983, The Democrat and ChronicleMonroe slaying brings in FBI, April 16, 1983, Press and Sun BulletinPolice hunt clues in extortion murder, April 16, 1983, The Ithaca JournalPhillips, Kate & Mandelaro, Doug, $25,000 ransom drop, 1 dead in bank drama, April 15, 1983, The Times UnionMichaud, Stephen, Beyond Cruel: The Chilling True Story of America’s Most Sadistic Killer, May 1994, St. Martin’s PaperbacksSupport the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    18 min
  5. MISSING: Mary "Bo Bo" Shinn

    FEB 9

    MISSING: Mary "Bo Bo" Shinn

    If you have information on this case, contact the Arkansas State Police at 870-777-8944. On July 20, 1978, Mary "Bo Bo" Shinn left to show a client a home she had flipped, but never returned. Her final words to a friend over the phone were "If I don't come back, send someone to look for me". Hours later, her vehicle was found abandoned behind a grocery store. All signs pointed to foul play. To this day, she has never been found.  In this episode, we discuss the circumstances surrounding her disappearance, the timeline of her last known movements, the various tips that came in, and recent developments in the case.  We also talk about Mike DeBardeleben as a possible suspect, and the similarities between Bobo, Terry, and Jean's cases.  Listen to the Trace Evidence episode on this case: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trace-evidence/id1239217007?i=1000694217709 SOURCES: Monae, Chelsea, 44-year-old mystery of “Bobo Shinn” still haunts small Arkansas city, August 18, 2022, KTVE/KARDReward offered for woman’s return, July 25, 1978, The Batesville GuardFamily of missing Magnolia woman increases reward offer to $35,000, July 31, 1978, The Batesville GuardBocklage, Judy, One Officer continues to work on Shinn Case, October 27, 1978, The Batesville GuardSuspect might be questioned in disappearance, February 2, 1984, The Batesville GuardMonae, Chelsea, Haunting disappearance: woman vanished in South Arkansas 47 years ago, July 24, 2025, KTVE/KARDWoman missing, July 23, 1978, The Daily WorldDetective says he has prime suspect in disappearance of Magnolia woman, November 22, 1979, The Shreveport JournalMartin, Phil, The 6-year search for Bo Bo Shinn, October 30, 1984, The Shreveport JournalFoul play is feared, July 22, 1978, The SunReward offered in search for missing woman, July 25, 1978, The SunSecond Reward is Now Offered, July 30, 1978, The SunBocklage, Judy, Another Dead-End in Search, October 27, 1978, The SunNew search for woman launched, July 25, 1978, The Southwest Times RecordMagnolia woman believed abducted, July 26, 1978, The Southwest Times RecordInvestigation of disappearance develops baffling dead ends, October 27, 1978, The Southwest Times Recordhttps://dps.arkansas.gov/law-enforcement/arkansas-state-police/divisions/criminal-investigations/cold-cases/mary-jimmie-bobo-shinn/Trace Evidence: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trace-evidence/id1239217007?i=1000694217709Support the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    25 min
  6. MURDERED: Edna "Terry" Macdonald

    FEB 2

    MURDERED: Edna "Terry" Macdonald

    Eleven years before the brutal murder of Jean McPhaul in Bossier City, Louisiana, Edna Terry Macdonald was killed in Barrington, Rhode Island. After the arrest of Mike DeBardeleben, Bossier City investigators began to notice chilling similarities between the two crimes. The cases were nearly identical. From the victims’ professions and victimology to the offender’s MO and the manner of death, this couldn’t be a coincidence. This week, we dive into another murder that DeBardeleben was ultimately indicted for but was never brought to trial. We walk through the timeline of Edna Terry Macdonald’s last known movements, the crime and investigation, and the striking parallels between her case, Jean McPhaul’s, and Dorothy Miller’s. Purchase Stephen Michaud’s book “Beyond Cruel” - https://books.apple.com/us/book/beyond-cruel/id6503722963 SOURCES: Michaud, Stephen, Beyond Cruel: The Chilling True Story of America’s Most Sadistic Killer, May 1994, St. Martin’s PaperbacksWoman’s body roped, May 2, 1971, The Democrat and Chronicle Ex-Island legislator’s wife slain, May 2, 1971, Staten Island AdvanceFind murder victim’s car, May 3, 1971, Staten Island AdvanceCustomer suspect, Seek real estate agent’s killer, May 2, 1971, Syracuse Herald JournalR.I. slaying suspect sentenced 100 years, August 3, 1984, The Boston GlobeAccused of killings, torture, ‘Sadomasochist’ draws 100-year term, August 3, 1984, The Morning UnionSentencing due for poison ‘lifer’, May 4, 1985, The Morning Union Support the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    27 min
  7. MURDERED: Jean McPhaul

    JAN 26

    MURDERED: Jean McPhaul

    On Tuesday, April 27, 1982, a Bossier City, Louisiana realtor, Jean McPhaul, was brutally murdered by a client who called himself "Dr. Zack". Despite a thorough investigation, the client was able to evade authorities. That is, until the U.S. Secret Service caught James "Mike" DeBardeleben, a notorious counterfeiter.  The similarities between Jean's case and that of Dorothy Miller's are ones I can't ignore. This week's episode is the first in a series examining the suspected and known victims of Mike DeBardeleben, and will conclude with a look at his life and crimes.  Could Mike DeBardeleben be the man responsible for Burlington, Iowa's oldest cold case?  Listen to Dorothy’s episode: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cardinal-crimes/id1781462994?i=1000743012634 Purchase Stephen Michaud’s book “Beyond Cruel” - https://books.apple.com/us/book/beyond-cruel/id6503722963 SOURCES:  Reward Offered For Realtor Murdered, May 13, 1982, Bossier PressDebardeleben indicted in McPhaul case, June 7, 1984, UPI ArchivesReal Estate Saleswoman Murdered By ‘Customer’, April 29, 1982, The Daily AdvertiserFull-Time Investigation Off, November 5, 1982, The Daily AdvertiserEx-Alabamian found slain in Louisiana, April 29, 1982, The Mobile PressHines, Gary, No arrests in murder of local real estate woman, April 29, 1982, The Shreveport JournalLarsen, Dick, Murder probe shatters peace of neighborhood, April 29, 1982, The Shreveport JournalLarsen, Dick, Mysterious ‘Dr. Zack’ sought in real estate agent’s brutal murder, April 30, 1982, The Shreveport JournalLarsen, Dick, Detectives see no arrest looming in Mrs. McPhaul murder case, May 5, 1982, The Shreveport JournalAuthorities no closer to arrest in McPhaul murder, May 17, 1982, The Shreveport JournalLarsen, Dick, Public asked to aid search, May 18, 1982, The Shreveport JournalHines, Gary, McPhaul suspect Police find ‘solid’ lead in murder, June 14, 1982, The Shreveport JournalHines, Gary, Police eye suspect in McPhaul murder, June 14, 1982, The Shreveport JournalLarsen, Dick, Despite many dead ends, detectives haven’t quit on McPhaul case, July 23, 1982, The Shreveport JournalHines, Gary, Hunt for McPhaul killer fails, November 4, 1982, The Shreveport JournalWaddle, Ray, Realtor found slain in vacant Bossier home, April 29, 1982, The TimesWaddle, Ray, Police get slaying suspect’s description, April 30, 1982, The TimesIvory, Lee, Tuesday began as usual day for realty firm, April 30, 1982, The TimesGingles, Keenan, ‘I guess I was last to see her alive’, April 29, 1982, The TimesMichaud, Stephen, Beyond Cruel: The Chilling True Story of America’s Most Sadistic Killer, May 1994, St. Martin’s PaperbacksSupport the show If you have any information on any of the cold cases covered, you can submit a tip here: https://www.iowaattorneygeneral.gov/for-crime-victims/iowa-cold-case/cold-case-tip-form If you liked the show and are interested in supporting my work, check out my Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/CardinalCrimes?utm_campaign=creatorshare_creator Save $20 on a Buzzsprout paid plan using this referral link!: https://www.buzzsprout.com/?referrer_id=2372693 Theme Song: Shrouded Lament by james.lfo, William Claeson

    28 min
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Cardinal Crimes is a true crime podcast that explores cold and unsolved cases, criminal behavior, and crime prevention.  The host, Becca, is a former Intelligence Analyst interested in the "why" behind crime, the systems that shape it, and the ways we can prevent it. 

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