Chasing Phantom

David Timberline

Broadway's longest running shows

  1. #62: The Voice of the Turtle and its surprising relevance with Jordan Schildcrout, Ph.D.

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    #62: The Voice of the Turtle and its surprising relevance with Jordan Schildcrout, Ph.D.

    Who could have known that this near-forgotten play from the 1940s would be so relevant in the 2020s? The title is from the Bible, a verse in the Song of Solomon that actually references a turtledove, not the shelled amphibian: "The time of singing has come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land." Playwright John Van Druten of "I Am A Camera" fame, turned it into a Broadway comedy that was one of the few shows opening during World War II that captured and reflected life during wartime. "The Voice of the Turtle" may have become infamous for the movie version that starred Ronald Reagan and sanitized its themes around sexual autonomy. But this story about a single actress who doesn't want to fall in love is actually a relatively ground-breaking play. My guest, as is often the case when obscure plays are featured, is Jordan Schildcrout, Ph.D., author of "In the Long Run: A Cultural History of Broadway's Hit Plays," and we go pretty deep in this discussion, one of the geekiest and therefore, fun for me, conversations I've had in a long time! Our chat includes short digressions like a review of the life of Virginia-born Margaret Sullavan (who some may know thanks to the TV movie "Haywire" written by her daughter), the surprising amount of attention given the cast having only 3 people, and the key symbolic role of the show's set. Enjoy! And please check out my website, ChasingPhantom.net, for more info, video clips, and access to previous episodes.

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  2. #73: The Sound of Music with the sublime Stacey Cabaj

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    #73: The Sound of Music with the sublime Stacey Cabaj

    With this episode, we reach an important milestone in "Chasing Phantom" history: this 64th episode marks the moment we pass the halfway point on the way up the list toward "Phantom of the Opera," still the longest running show in Broadway history. In honor of that moment, the episode features one of my favorite shows, "The Sound of Music," and a conversation with one of my favorite actors, Stacey Cabaj. There was a run starting in 2010 when almost every significant female role cast in a musical in central Virginia went to Stacey. She was talented, sure, but she was also a magnetic personality, charming, smart, spunky, and delightful to be around. She had (and has) that gentle, soft-spoken but still emphatic wit that I associate with Canadians. She was the perfect choice to play Maria in "The Sound of Music." The production in Richmond included a powerhouse of talent both young and old, and my son's appearance as Karl was a highlight of his young career. His participation in the production only cemented the show's place in my heart, the movie version already becoming the most-played VCR tape in our library by a huge margin. In our conversation, Cabaj and I talk about the show's legacy, her personal journey in becoming a Maria, the longstanding impact of the show in her life even before appearing in it, and we broach the topics of faith and fascism that both feature prominently in the context of this show. Those deeper and darker themes reinforce how it's not just a fun story of found family and kids learning how to sing. Given that this episode is light on deep lore or history on the original Broadway production, you'll definitely want to check out my website, Chasing Phantom.net, for more information and relevant videos clips. The website even includes a picture of my son in the production with Stacey - very cute!

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  3. #77: Hellzapoppin' and madcap comedy with August Hundley

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    #77: Hellzapoppin' and madcap comedy with August Hundley

    Think "Blazing Saddles" but on Broadway and with 1930s era sensibilities. That's what "Hellzapoppin'" was and, honestly, for the times it was pretty cutting-edge stuff. Weird running gags, satirical songs lampooning contemporary issues, risqué and ribald jokes, and even fourth-wall breaking hilarity. Sure, it was silly but it was smart silly, not stupid silly. At least most of the time. While it was impossible to find an extant expert who could give me the low-down on this crazy show, I found something much better. The talented young actor August Hundley starred as Louise in a stage play set in the 1930s, "Dear Jack, Dear Louise," before he transitioned. His character was an actress who auditions for, and ultimately lands, a role in the "Hellzapoppin'." While it didn't make him an expert, it made him much more familiar with the show than any other human in my theater circle and perhaps on the planet. "Dear Jack, Dear Louise" was August's last role as a female-presenting character and the show stands as a landmark for him in his journey of self-discovery. It's a somewhat mind-bending conversation, zigzagging between talking about his heartfelt personal journey and the bonkers nature of "Hellzapoppin'" but that's part of what makes it fun. Be sure and check out ChasingPhantom.net for more information and some fun video clips related to the show, including a link to the entire movie version. And you can always reach out to me at davidhintztimberline@gmail.com with questions, comments, or cries of outrage!

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  4. #68: "Dreamgirls" with the dreamy Katrinah Carol Lewis

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    #68: "Dreamgirls" with the dreamy Katrinah Carol Lewis

    Valentine's Day is coming up, a time when the warmth of love takes our minds off the cold weather. So it's the perfect time for an episode about a show I love without reservation: "Dreamgirls." I'm not alone - critic Frank Rich called it "the most exciting staging of a Broadway musical in this decade." Others have labeled it "one of the most iconic, influential, and straight-up thrilling musicals ever written." For me, it was the first musical I ever saw on Broadway and there's always a special place in your heart for your first, particularly when it's this good. Joining me in raving about his show is Katrinah Carol Lewis, an exceptionally accomplished performer, director and actor who played the "replacement" Dream, Michelle, in a smashing 2016 production. I would have a blast talking about just about any show with Katrinah, but it's a particular pleasure delving into this one with her.  In addition to lifting up the music in the show, we touch on some of the issues masterfully explored in the musical, including the appropriation of black music by white artists and the exploitation of young women in the music business. We even sneak in a reference to Richmond home town star, Emily Skinner, who played one of the backup singers in the appropriating Dave and the Sweathearts group, in the 2001 Actors Fund of America concert version of the show. It was a recording of that performance that was the vehicle for Katrinah's discovery of this amazing musical. Please check out the my website, ChasingPhantom.net, for more information on "Dreamgirls" and some essential video clips.

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Broadway's longest running shows