Chelsea's Vocation

Chelsea Budde

Chelsea's neurodivergent offspring are the reason her heart and mind have grown year after year for two decades. As a neuromajority human caring for and about autistic humans, she has learned to apply a thing or two about brain wiring and wants to share that learning with other people so they can know better and do better, too. These 20-minute long shows will be released every two weeks (two per month max), feature occasional guests, have a neuroaffirming focus, and highlight autistic experiences.

  1. 6D AGO

    Becoming While Autistic

    Becoming the adult you want to be takes time, self-awareness, and sometimes hard work. Add the dimensions of disability and neurodivergence to adolescence, and the complexities deepen. Chelsea’s guest, Layne Ledding, is a 20-year-old young woman whose poem “Victoria’s Secret” captures part of her journey of “Becoming While Autistic”. This episode is almost a responsive reading of (most of) the poem, with Chelsea reflecting on parts of Layne’s writing and asking about her lived experience. (Note that the poem’s punctuation and capitalization in the transcript are as the writer intended, but the layout is compromised by the medium.) Layne lives with her mom, dad, brother, sister, two dogs, and a bird in Kenosha, Wis. She's been interested in writing, poetry, art, and stories in general since she was a child, and interested in mental health since she was in sixth grade. Layne was diagnosed with autism at 14, and she's never stopped learning. She’s a curious, big-hearted young woman who has come far over these past few years with her mentors’ guidance. She processed and admitted she's a lesbian via writing extremely personal (and eminently publishable!) poetry. Lately, Layne’s glamorously gay, proud, and happy. Please show Layne some love by commenting! Here’s that whole “Barbie” monologue: It is literally impossible to be a woman. You are so beautiful and so smart, and it kills me that you don't think you're good enough. Like, we have to always be extraordinary, but somehow we're always doing it wrong. You have to be thin, but not too thin. And you can never say you want to be thin. You have to say you want to be healthy, but also you have to be thin. You have to have money, but you can't ask for money because that's crass. You have to be a boss, but you can't be mean. You have to lead, but you can't squash other people's ideas. You're supposed to love being a mother but don't talk about your kids all the damn time. You have to be a career woman, but also always be looking out for other people. You have to answer for men's bad behavior, which is insane, but if you point that out, you're accused of complaining. You're supposed to stay pretty for men, but not so pretty that you tempt them too much or that you threaten other women because you're supposed to be a part of the sisterhood. But always stand out and always be grateful. But never forget that the system is rigged. So find a way to acknowledge that but also always be grateful. You have to never get old, never be rude, never show off, never be selfish, never fall down, never fail, never show fear, never get out of line. It's too hard! It's too contradictory and nobody gives you a medal or says thank you! And it turns out in fact that not only are you doing everything wrong, but also everything is your fault. I'm just so tired of watching myself and every single other woman tie herself into knots so that people will like us. And if all of that is also true for a doll just representing women, then I don't even know. Want more? These previous episodes align well: Episode 13: Puberty & Autism Episode 25: Trauma & AutismPodcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    26 min
  2. FEB 11

    Ableism & Autism

    Fed up with exclusion from relevant conversations, disability rights activists popularized a slogan in the 1990s: “Nothing about us without us.” Was this group marginalized because non-disabled people inherently believe people who are disabled need “fixing”? While challenges brought about by autism are worthy of supports, the concept of ableism lurks in corners of parenting, education, and employment. Guest Sxdni Small brings their lived experience as a neurodivergent person to this discussion. Born on the traditional and current land of many Native Peoples, including the Ojibwe, Ho-Chunk, Menominee, Oneida and Potawatomi Nations, Sxdni was raised in a Milwaukee, Wis., household graced by kitchen table lilac blooms. Reading and community organizing were household staples in a home filled with love for words and learning. Sxdni is a dog training geek and honeybush tea fan, as well as a member of the Wisconsin Writer’s Association. They treasure their spouse’s poetry and the growing pile of books atop their own kitchen table. Previous episodes that provide more context: Episode 1 (Intro), 2 (Justus), 3 (Noey), 4 (Chelsea), 20 (Masking) Topics, terms, and resources, in order of their appearance, that might evoke some curiosity: Leah Smith on ableismNicole Ciarlone’s “4 ways ableism still affects people with disabilities”Stella Young on inspiration pornmedical vs. social model of disabilityThe DSM-5 (The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 5th ed., 2013) diagnostic criteria for autismDr. Stephen Shore: "If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism."“cis, het” = cisgender, heterosexualspiky profileidentity-first language neurospicyR-wordempathy and autismdyspraxia and autismAuditory Processing DisorderIndividuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA)stress levels of mothers of autistic childrenPodcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    28 min
  3. JAN 28

    Setting Up for Success

    Creating supportive environments for autistic children involves understanding their unique needs and making intentional adjustments in various settings. In this episode (the longest to date), Chelsea offers suggestions for setting autistic children up for success across three environments: home, school, and short-stay community outings. Remember, every small change can make a significant impact on our kids’ ability to engage and flourish in a world created without their nervous systems in mind. These previous episodes might provide more context for this topic: Episode 1: Introducing Chelsea's Vocation, the podcast, and Chelsea's familyEpisode 2: Introducing JustusEpisode 4: Chelsea's EvolutionHere are more topics, terms, and resources, in order of their appearance in the podcast, that might evoke some curiosity: pre-verbal: a period of time in a child’s life when they don’t use spoken language (yet). Refer to Episode 17: Language Development & Autism. central nervous system and clothing: See this article from Golden Care Therapy.tactile defensiveness: sensory sensitivities connected to touch are heightened, so what might be perceived as a mild annoyance to most nervous systems is perceived instead as painful, which may elicit a fight, flight, or freeze defense.neurospicyco-/self-regulation: See this blog from Autism Awareness Centre.sensory input: See this article from the National Autistic Society.Autism and ARFIDRefer to Katrina’s input on telling your child about their neurology in Episode 24: Bonus Content.stim toys, fidgets (not an endorsement or paid advertisement)functional behavior analysis/assessment (FBA): A systematic approach to identifying specific behaviors, understanding what that behavior is communicating, and either pre-boarding mitigating measures to prevent an undesired behavior, or establishing a set of action steps to manage harmful behavior once it starts.Just Give Him the Whale!: 20 Ways to Use Fascinations, Areas of Expertise, and Strengths to Support Students with Autism, by Paula Kluth & Patrick Schwarz meltdown: not a tantrum, but the physiological response to a state of overwhelmPodcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    30 min
  4. JAN 14

    Trauma & Autism

    If all behavior is communication for an autistic person, could some of that behavior actually be a response to trauma? Chelsea welcomes guest Becky Aten, who identifies as neurodivergent and neuroqueer, is late-diagnosed ADHD and autistic, and also lives with diagnoses of Complex PTSD, anxiety, and depression. They walk listeners through what trauma is (and isn’t), how we as parents and caregivers might be contributing to trauma, and what we can do to support our autistic loved ones going forward. Becky wears many hats in their work as a human resources professional, neurodivergent yoga facilitator, community-builder, and neurodiversity advocate. With over two decades of experience working for mental health recovery programs serving the neurodivergent community, Becky is passionate about cultivating welcoming, mindful, trauma-aware, and affirming spaces for community care that honor each individual’s experiences and intersecting identities. In their free time, Becky also enjoys hiking in the forest, petting moss, reading science and sci-fi books, and tabletop gaming.  Check out the chapter markers / video version to appreciate some of Becky and Chelsea’s moss photo swaps! The following terms and resources, in order of their mention in the podcast, might evoke some curiosity: Wellpoint Care Network Nityda Gessel, The Trauma-Conscious Yoga Institute Haruvi-Lamdan, Nirit et al. “Autism Spectrum Disorder and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder: An unexplored co-occurrence of conditions.” Autism: the international journal of research and practice vol. 24,4 (2020): 884-898. doi:10.1177/1362361320912143Rumball, Freya et al. “Experience of Trauma and PTSD Symptoms in Autistic Adults: Risk of PTSD Development Following DSM-5 and Non-DSM-5 Traumatic Life Events.” Autism Research: official journal of the International Society for Autism Research vol. 13,12 (2020): 2122-2132. doi:10.1002/aur.2306co-/self-regulation: See this blog from Autism Awareness Centre.Related episode, Masking & Autism  Individualized Education Plan (IEP)meltdown: not a tantrum, but the physiological response to a state of overwhelmCheck out these other content creators: Kelly Mahler, NeuroWild  Podcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    24 min
  5. 12/31/2025

    Bonus Content

    Even if you listened to all 23 episodes of this inaugural season of the Chelsea’s Vocation podcast, this will be all new to you!  Chelsea realized her humility makes room for God’s power. She refers to these Bible verses, found in 2 Corinthians 12:5-10 (ESV)"On behalf of this man I will boast, but on my own behalf I will not boast, except of my weaknesses — though if I should wish to boast, I would not be a fool, for I would be speaking the truth; but I refrain from it, so that no one may think more of me than he sees in me or hears from me. So to keep me from becoming conceited because of the surpassing greatness of the revelations, a thorn was given me in the flesh, a messenger of Satan to harass me, to keep me from becoming conceited. Three times I pleaded with the Lord about this, that it should leave me. But he said to me, 'My grace is sufficient for you, for my power is made perfect in weakness.' Therefore I will boast all the more gladly of my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ may rest upon me. For the sake of Christ, then, I am content with weaknesses, insults, hardships, persecutions, and calamities. For when I am weak, then I am strong." Dani Jo shares advice for moms of newly-diagnosed children. Katrina explains how it might be difficult for autistic students in middle school to make friends.Chelsea and Katrina implore parents to share what they know about their child’s brain wiring with them.Katrina reminds parents of neurospicy children to give themselves grace.Emily and Chelsea admit that their 5-year plans changed during college, and it’s okay for autistic students to change their plans, too.Emily reframes the role of parents of autistic learners as their adolescents become college students.The bonus content in this episode are from the recordings of these previously published episodes, so here are those links: Episode 6: Faith & Autism Episode 9: Momming Autistic Humans Episode 13: Puberty & Autism Episode 14: College Considerations Be sure to share your topic suggestions with us for Season 2! Podcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    23 min
  6. 12/03/2025

    Holiday Hacks

    When Chelsea didn't receive any feedback from families about how they were "winning" the holidays, she deduced that maybe it was hard to get those "W"s. That made her think of five ways extended family members can help neurodiverse families navigate this season better together. While this is a great episode to share, there might be some terminology that's unfamiliar to those not living the neurodivergent experience. Chelsea recommends going back and listening to Episode 1 for baseline definitions.  Here are more topics and terms, in order of their appearance in the podcast, might evoke some curiosity: SpIns (special interests): focused fascinations or passions that occupy much time and attention. Check out Episode 21.celiac diseaseco-/self-regulation: See this blog from Autism Awareness Centre.sensory input: See this article from the National Autistic Society.stim toys, fidgets (not an endorsement or paid advertisement)neurospicymeltdown: not a tantrum, but the physiological response to a state of overwhelmcentral nervous system and clothing: See this article from Golden Care Therapy.And just when you think Chelsea might have gotten through the entire first season of the podcast without crying during an episode, it happens right near the end. Shout out to Amy Grant and her song "Breath Of Heaven (Mary's Song)" that both permitted Chelsea to fall apart and have a good cry during the holiday season and gave her a prayer to get her through.  Podcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    23 min
  7. 11/19/2025

    Partners in the Journey

    If there are couples who consider the possibility that they might raise children with developmental disabilities, Chelsea and Pete were not one of them. In fact, Chelsea admits they had all sorts of ideas about how they would parent both before they were pregnant and after their first child was in their arms. There was an expectation that they’d spend some married time together before they had children, and spend many more years together after they’d raised their children. Those “how” details are so elusive! Chelsea’s husband of 30 years, Pete, joins the conversation in this episode, not to provide any “how to” template for raising neurospicy children while staying married, but to offer a birds-eye view of their partnership journey in the hope families might find some encouragement as they’re going through it. In case you want to read the articles Chelsea refers to (in order of reference): Epstein, Sarah. (2019). “If My Parents Are Divorced, Is My Marriage Doomed to Fail?”. Psychology Today. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/between-the-generations/201902/if-my-parents-are-divorced-is-my-marriage-doomed-fail#Gaille, Brandon. (2017). “21 High School Sweethearts Marriage Statistics”. https://brandongaille.com/20-high-school-sweethearts-marriage-statistics/ Hartley, S. L., Barker, E. T., Seltzer, M. M., Floyd, F., Greenberg, J., Orsmond, G., & Bolt, D. (2010). “The Relative Risk and Timing of Divorce in Families of Children with an Autism Spectrum Disorder”. Journal of Family Psychology, 24(4), 449–457. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0019847 Sarris, Marina. (2017). “Under a Looking Glass: What's The Truth About Autism and Marriage?". Interactive Autism Network. https://www.kennedykrieger.org/stories/interactive-autism-network-ian/whats-truth-about-autism-and-marriage# In case you want to make an episode-related playlist: “You’re Still the One” by Shania Twain https://youtu.be/KNZH-emehxA?si=8D8PYBjPOOwWK7Qr “Never Would Have Made It” by Marvin Sapp https://youtu.be/TWrGjzBheno?si=SvgoTMn0IoQM6A7_ (Consider changing the “I” to “we” as you listen.)“I Will Be Here” by Steven Curtis Chapman https://youtu.be/vU2hPIwqbTk?si=O4Q83cpw0-HU_-Op (Originally released in 1989, this was a wedding song for us.)“Dancing in the Minefields” by Andrew Peterson https://youtu.be/_Gs3fg_WsEg?si=FBMQbiv_WxZO8l8GPodcast includes an introduction for episodes 6 and following at the beginning. Transition music, "Taking a Vocation", by Noey Budde. Closing narration for episodes 6 and following.

    26 min
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Chelsea's neurodivergent offspring are the reason her heart and mind have grown year after year for two decades. As a neuromajority human caring for and about autistic humans, she has learned to apply a thing or two about brain wiring and wants to share that learning with other people so they can know better and do better, too. These 20-minute long shows will be released every two weeks (two per month max), feature occasional guests, have a neuroaffirming focus, and highlight autistic experiences.