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Join host Jenn McCarron, a legal ops trailblazer serving as Netflix's Director of Legal Operations and Technology, and a distinguished CLOC Board Member, as she dazzles listeners with in-depth conversations about tech, transformation, and the meaning of life. Tune in to CLOC Talk weekly to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.

CLOC Talk Corporate Legal Operations Consortium

    • Business
    • 5.0 • 13 Ratings

Join host Jenn McCarron, a legal ops trailblazer serving as Netflix's Director of Legal Operations and Technology, and a distinguished CLOC Board Member, as she dazzles listeners with in-depth conversations about tech, transformation, and the meaning of life. Tune in to CLOC Talk weekly to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.

    Everything in it's Right Place

    Everything in it's Right Place

    Today we're dropping back into the podcast lounge at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London where Jenn is joined by Tom Rice, Head of Legal Ops and Customer Experience Strategy at Travel Perk.
    There is no magic switch to transform contract technology inside a legal department, but you can get your legal templates and forms in-house in order.
    In this episode, Jenn and Tom discuss how Chat GPT and other LLMs may not be a switch, but they come really close to being magic.
    Special thanks to our sponsor Knowable.
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    • 23 min
    Giving Thanks

    Giving Thanks

    A quick note from host Jenn McCarron.

    • 1 min
    CLM; IYKYK

    CLM; IYKYK

    On today's episode, we are back at CLOC's 2023 EMEA Summit in London, where host Jenn McCarron is joined by guest Amy McConnell, Head of Legal Operations and Business Contracting at Vodafone.
    Jenn and Amy get into the perennial topic of contract lifecycle management. These two experts compare notes on our methods for making tech tools that work for humans, not the other way around.

    • 29 min
    Design Unicorn

    Design Unicorn

    This week on CLOC Talk, CEO and Co-Founder of WOW Legal Experience Karol Valencia joins host Jenn McCarron for a colorful conversation on the most elusive of all unicorns, the legal design unicorn.
    If you have been in the comments on LinkedIn lately you have heard Jenn's thoughts on the topic of legal design.
    This conversation with Karol may have changed her mind on a few things.
    And one more thing, does everyone in Legal Ops have a side gig as a musician?

    • 22 min
    Podcast vs. Podcast

    Podcast vs. Podcast

    Alex Kelly is not just the host of the In-House Outliers Podcast, he is also COO and Co-Founder at Brightflag and one of our favorite guests at CLOC Talk. In this state of the legal ops podcast scene, Jenn and Alex connect and discuss all of their favorite topics at the CLOC Talk Podcast Lounge at this year's EMEA Summit.
    Thank you to our friends at Icertis for sponsoring this episode.

    • 30 min
    Back to Basics

    Back to Basics

    In this week's episode, Jenn is joined by the Chief Evangelist at Icertis Bernadette Bulacan. The two legal tech innovators, get skeptical together about generative AI. They wonder, did attorneys ever really get on board with classic AI? Find out what they think and more on this episode of CLOC Talk. 
    Thank you to Icertis for sponsoring this episode.

    • 29 min

Customer Reviews

5.0 out of 5
13 Ratings

13 Ratings

Amber Kusat ,

Great Podcast!

As an owner of a court reporting and litigation support business my biggest hurdle has been to explain the importance of legal operations and choosing a vendor. This podcast has been great to learn more about the progression of the industry! CLOC is a great association as well.

Amber Kusar Estorga
Kusar Court Reporters / KusarGlobal

Sdonnigan ,

WOW!!!

Listening to the experiences of these CLOC legal ops trailblazers gives this legal-ops-professional-trapped-in-the-body-of-an-attorney so much hope!

The CLOC Talk Podcast is excellent: funny, informative, inspirational and so very relevant!!

NewlyMingling ,

So helpful and relevant!

As an attorney fascinated by legal technology and operations and their interaction with business, I appreciate this podcast and Jen’s passion for spreading the message about the CLOC Core 12. The discussions about the fear of judgement from lawyer friends and even family members when a licensed attorney makes the “switch” to legal operations is particularly relevant and accurate. Then reality is that legal operations departments will only expand in the future with advancements in legal tech, the effects of the pandemic, and both of their respective economic consequences.

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