In this episode of Dad Bods and Beards, we sit down with Curtis Morley, author of Counterfeit Emotions, to have an honest conversation about men’s mental health, addiction, and what real recovery actually looks like.Curtis introduces his framework around Counterfeit Emotions, explaining why many men stay stuck even after years of sobriety. According to Curtis, sobriety is not the same as recovery — and in some cases, it can actually keep people trapped. Using powerful analogies and neuroscience-backed insights, he explains why shame, not addiction, is often the real driver behind behaviors like pornography use, substance abuse, overeating, and gambling.The conversation breaks down the critical difference between guilt and shame:Guilt says, “I did something wrong, and I can change.”Shame says, “I am wrong, and that can’t be fixed.”Curtis shares how recovery comes from addressing the underlying emotional need, not just stopping the behavior, and how neuroplasticity offers real hope for healing trauma and building new pathways.Along the way, the hosts share raw personal stories — from injuries and ER visits to travel mishaps — making this a candid, meaningful discussion about fatherhood, self-worth, and growth.Curtis also discusses his 8-week Counterfeit Emotions program, which helps men and couples move from shame-based survival into true recovery and connection.ABOUT THE SHOW:Dad Bods & Beards is the podcast where real men talk about mental health, personal growth, and the mindset it takes to build a life you’re proud of. Hosts Logan and Tyson share authentic conversations with guests from every walk of life—from entrepreneurs and athletes to everyday dads—who open up about their struggles, wins, and lessons learned along the way.Whether you’re working on your men’s health, navigating fatherhood, or simply trying to become a stronger version of yourself, these stories will inspire you to keep going.Subscribe to hear new episodes about resilience, mindset, and living life by design, not by default.Follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.LISTEN / SUBSCRIBE TO “DAD BODS and BEARDS” Podcast:*YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@DadBodsAndBeardsOriginal *Apple Music - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dad-bods-and-beards/id1689964941?i=1000652044990*Spotify - https://spotify.link/PUh2OBw2SIbCONNECT WITH DAD BODS AND BEARDS:*All Links -https://dadbodsandbeards.komi.io CONNECT WITH CURTIS: *Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/authenticcurtis?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet&igsh=ZDNlZDc0MzIxNw== CONNECT WITH LOGAN:*All Links - https://loganpetersen.komi.ioCONNECT WITH TYSON:*All Links - https://linktr.ee/tyson.allredPRODUCTION CREDITS:Intro/Outro Music:“Walk With Thousands” – Theo Fleury & Friends MERCH NOW AVAILABLE!!!Support the work we do by grabbing something from https://www.dadbodsandbeards.com/This episode is brought to you by:Emerald Cast Harley Davidson – FLY. STAY. RIDE.https://www.emeraldcoasthd.com/--fly-stay-rideMTN OPS – Supplements https://mtnops.comWAYS Energy – Energy Drinks https://waysenergy.comMindbloom - At Home Ketamine Therapyhttps://www.mindbloom.com/creator-partnerships/loganp100Copper Johns Grooming Company https://copperjohnsbeard.com
