DEEP COLOR is an oral history project and podcast that features long-form conversations with artists and art professionals as they discuss their work, ideas and lives--offering listeners a unique understanding about the process, experiences and people behind the artwork. DEEP COLOR is independently produced by Joseph Hart.
Phil Sanders is a master printer, educator, author and artist, and is the founder and director of PS Marlow—a fine art publisher and creative services consultancy based in Asheville, North Carolina. Phil has worked with celebrated artists like Elizabeth Murray, Jasper Johns, Helen Frankenthaler and Chakaia Booker among many others.
Phil talks about his new book Prints and Their Makers, learning about the emotional impact of color while collaborating with painter Wayne Thiebaud, the difference between reproductions and prints, prioritizing other artist’s work over his own artwork, the enduring legacy of artist and master printer Robert Blackburn, art history and antiracism, fatherhood and the work/life balance, and how art, artists and our imaginations are vital components of a healthy democracy.
Nikita Gale makes sculpture and installation-based work that explores the exchanges and barriers between audience and performer. Nikita talks about how artwork can influence group behavior, protest and dissent as performance, research as a way to pull out ideas, noise and silence as social and political positions, the similarities between studio visits and dating, maintenance and mind-body awareness, and art as an open invitation.
Curtis Talwst Santiago
Curtis Talwst Santiago is a multi-disciplinary artist that makes sculpture, drawings and paintings, performance and video. Curtis talks about pivoting from music to visual art, navigating the COVID-19 pandemic, his recent show Can’t I Alter at The Drawing Center in New York, genetic trauma and ancestry as concepts, intuition as an important tool, the complexities of Kanye West, honesty during studio visits and learning to be patient with the process of making art.
Susan Bee makes energetic oil paintings that feature a mix of female figures in fantastical landscapes, art historical references, geometric abstraction and pictorial invention—all serving as iconic flashpoints for current social and personal struggles. Susan talks about symbolism and being inspired by romance and poetry, inserting herself into someone else’s narrative, how images can represent sound, surrendering meaning and embracing ambiguity, vulnerability during studio visits, the self as primary audience, and feeling completely absorbed by the process of making a painting.
Libby Rothfeld makes conceptually driven sculpture that combines found objects, photography and drawing, and built wood structures that are often covered with banal hardware store tiles and kitchen counter laminate. Libby talks about the varied ingredients in her studio practice, subdued and faded color palettes as suggestions of time, an interest in the peripheral of our world, formality as feeling, figure skating and the collisions between taste, choice and identity.
Graham Collins makes sculpture and paintings that often combine complex structures, minimalism and material exploration. Graham talks about his approach to making and how different bodies of work connect and disconnect, thriving off of deadlines, being skeptical of art as a healthy exercise, allowing for fun in studio, small versus big galleries, green smoothies as placebo, how feelings aren’t facts, a desire for meaning to be visible and artist’s as the drivers of culture.
The Real Deal
Great guests, thoughtful host and serious art talk that is neither dumbed down or pretentious. Bravo!
In-depth and inspiring
I think it’s super helpful to hear so much in depth reflection about the practice of being an artist (and/or curator or dealer). And it’s super inspiring - it reminds me of why I make work in the first place and that the challenges I face are somewhat universal! :)
Like having the artist in your living room
From depths of the Ryan Travis Christian episode I learned the term “duende,” from the Sophie Stone episode I learned about how flowers relate to the coolest rugs ever (some designed to inch up a wall), and from Sean Kelly, what a thoroughly nice, unpretentious person he is. Thank you for giving us an enriching insight into the minds and machinations behind the canvas.