Deeply Functional

Todd Schmenk

Welcome to Deeply Functional, a podcast for clinicians who want to move beyond protocols and dive into the process. Hosted by Todd Schmenk, clinician, ACT Peer Reviewed Trainer and supervisor, the show explores psychological flexibility through Relational Frame Theory, Functional Contextualism, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Short episodes sharpen case conceptualization and clinical practice. The companion series, In Conversation, brings clinicians together to explore their work, ideas, and lessons learned along the way. Less theory for theory's sake. More real world application.

  1. 6d ago

    Frame by Frame: Seeing Function, Context, and Flexibility in ACT

    In this episode of Deeply Functional: In Conversation, Todd Schmenk is joined by Siri Ming, Julia Fiebig, and Evelyn Gould to explore the thinking behind Frame by Frame, their approach to helping clinicians understand what is happening functionally in the therapy room. The conversation begins with a familiar problem: ACT is often taught and practiced as a curriculum, protocol, or collection of exercises. The group considers what changes when clinicians move beyond choosing techniques and begin attending more carefully to behavior, context, learning history, and the function of what is unfolding from moment to moment. Together, they discuss how Relational Frame Theory and functional analysis can inform clinical decisions without pulling therapists away from the human interaction in front of them. They explore the value of “zooming in” on the immediate exchange while also “zooming out” to consider developmental, relational, group, and systemic influences on behavior. The discussion also examines psychological flexibility across different stages of life, the development of selfing through language, and the therapist’s own participation in the clinical process. Throughout the episode, Frame by Frame offers a way of slowing the work down enough to see more clearly, conceptualize more coherently, and respond with greater flexibility. This conversation will be especially useful for clinicians, supervisors, and trainers interested in moving beyond procedural ACT toward a more contextual, behaviorally grounded, and responsive approach to clinical practice. Learn More About Constellations here Frame-by-Frame Sign Up Information here Join the Deeply Functional Community at RIACT Get the broader picture with the Association of Contextual Behavioral Science Other training at the Institute of Better Health

    Frame by Frame: Seeing Function, Context, and Flexibility in ACT
  2. Aug 8

    Experiential Avoidance: When Protection Begins to Narrow Life

    The Hexagon in Reverse — Part 3 of 7 What happens when efforts to protect ourselves from discomfort begin organizing more and more of our lives? This episode explores experiential avoidance as an inflexibility process within ACT. Todd examines avoidance not as weakness, resistance, or pathology, but as an understandable attempt to gain safety and relief. Difficulties develop when thoughts, memories, emotions, and physical sensations acquire threatening functions, leading behavior to become increasingly organized around controlling, escaping, or preventing internal experience. You’ll explore: • How avoidance can provide immediate relief while gradually narrowing behavior• How emotional withdrawal, intellectual explanation, constant activity, topic changes, and postponement can function as avoidance• Why the form of a behavior matters less than what it accomplishes in context• How acceptance and willingness help clients remain in contact with experience while moving toward what matters• Why acceptance involves making room for experience rather than approving of it, enjoying it, or giving up Clinician takeaway: You will learn to look beneath the visible form of avoidance and identify the protective function it serves. Rather than forcing exposure or persuading clients to feel differently, the clinician helps them build the capacity to remain in contact with difficult experience while choosing meaningful action. The central question shifts from “How do we make this feeling stop?” toward “Can this person carry this experience and still participate in the life they want to build?” For further learning, articles, training, and connection with the contextual behavioral community, visit https://riact.org. Read more about inflexibility reads here

  3. Jul 28

    Beyond Holding Space: Compassionate Disruption and Therapeutic Movement

    When does holding space support meaningful change, and when might it unintentionally help a client remain stuck? This episode offers an AI generated conversation created through NotebookLM and based entirely on Todd Schmenk’s article, “Beyond Holding Space: Helping Clients Get Unstuck.” Todd reviewed the conversation for accuracy and consistency with Functional Contextualism and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. The episode examines a central clinical tension: therapeutic presence and validation are essential, yet they may become unhelpful when they function primarily to support avoidance or maintain patterns that are no longer workable. The alternative is not greater confrontation or less compassion. It is compassionate disruption, where warmth and understanding are paired with enough direction to create psychological movement. You’ll explore: • Functional listening, which looks beyond what a client is saying to examine what their behavior is doing in the moment• Strategic validation, which honors the client’s history and experience without reinforcing continued stagnation• Structured direction, which uses values and workability to give the session a meaningful trajectory• Productive discomfort, which recognizes that movement may require both the client and clinician to remain present with uncertainty and unease• How clinicians can balance compassion, presence, and active engagement without becoming overly directive Clinician takeaway: You will learn to distinguish between holding space that expands flexibility and holding space that may inadvertently reinforce avoidance. The goal is not to abandon validation, rush the client, or force change. It is to listen functionally, validate strategically, and introduce enough direction and productive discomfort to help the client move toward a fuller and more workable life. This recording is part of an experiment using AI to make longer clinical articles more accessible through conversation. I would genuinely like to hear whether you find this format useful. Read the original article: Beyond Holding Space: Helping Clients Get Unstuck For further learning, articles, training, and connection with the contextual behavioral community, visit https://riact.org.

    Beyond Holding Space: Compassionate Disruption and Therapeutic Movement

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Welcome to Deeply Functional, a podcast for clinicians who want to move beyond protocols and dive into the process. Hosted by Todd Schmenk, clinician, ACT Peer Reviewed Trainer and supervisor, the show explores psychological flexibility through Relational Frame Theory, Functional Contextualism, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. Short episodes sharpen case conceptualization and clinical practice. The companion series, In Conversation, brings clinicians together to explore their work, ideas, and lessons learned along the way. Less theory for theory's sake. More real world application.