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The Heart of Running. Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, founder of Borderlands Trail Running.

  1. How Ciele Athletics Survived Since Circa 2014

    12H AGO

    How Ciele Athletics Survived Since Circa 2014

    Jeremy Bresnen founded Ciele Athletics Inc./Ciele Athlétique Inc. with Mike Giles in 2014 in the now-great running city of Montreal. I started running around 2012 and clearly remember seeing Ciele on the shelf at Salt Lake Running Company circa 2015. I bought a hat almost instinctively and no doubt irresistibly. I wasn't sure I wanted to even run in it yet becuase I loved it so much and didn't want to ruin it from the 100 degree July days. Eventually I bought a second Ciele hat - one for running and one for around town. It was the first brand I wore while not running to signal to everyone that I was a runner. Ciele transcended any single type of running and permeated anywhere runners cared about performance and style - road, trail, and track from 5k to ultra distances. They emerged with a cohort of brands still going today like Tracksmith, Oiselle, Janji, and SATISFY. This co-hort of early 2010s brands were all seeing something similar - people were not simply running - they were runners. Jeremy Bresnen tells the story of Ciele while on a long walk with me from founding to today with thoughts on the future. From the days of hats-only to today where they create all sorts of running apparel and different styles of hats all built around performance first then style. Presented by Kiprun. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterHigh Tones Substack by Sam LohseWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    1h 9m
  2. Camille Herron | World Record Collector, Endurance + Ultra Running Legend

    5D AGO

    Camille Herron | World Record Collector, Endurance + Ultra Running Legend

    Camille Herron is an endurance and ultra running [world] Record Collector on the road, trail, and track. She's committed to pushing back the boundaries and guardrails put on women's sports with a list of accomplishments that should make anyone listen. Enjoy this conversation about Camille's great accomplishments with emphasis on Lululemon's 6 Day event, Spartathalon, Comrades, IAU Championships, and more. Some takeaways: Camille switched from road to trail + felt at homeShe sets mini goals during races to make it feel attainablePain perception [or lack thereof] is her superpowerShe caps long runs at two hours during trainingTraining should be tailored to individual needs[especially for neurodivergent athletes]The camaraderie in ultra running welcomes everyone.Spartathlon and Comrades connect runners to a rich history + heritage She believes she has many record breaking years ahead of her - what are her goals? - Josh brings back the classic Borderlands [DFL Before DNF - iykyk] question for Camille - "how do you keep going when you want to quit?" No doubt in Camille's intense and rigorous endurance records she has wanted to quit but hasn't. So how does she keep going? - A few years ago she noticed that she could incredible race output from decreasing her long runs down to 2 hours max. She later found a French author and researcher who wrote a book as he chased the idea. After adopting it, Camille has enjoyed less injuries and an overall increase in performance. [Hosts note: Candidly, we set out to talk about the not-so-recent 'Wikipedia situtation' but as the conversation was going I decided to stay in the moment of celebrating an unbelievable career. I hope to have Camille on multiple times in the coming years where we can talk about this and so many other things important to her and ultra running.] Presented by Kiprun. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    1h 6m
  3. Jesse Rich | Ultra Running Nutrition vs. Nourishment

    FEB 16

    Jesse Rich | Ultra Running Nutrition vs. Nourishment

    In this episode we reframe endurance nutrition to thinking about endurance nourishment. In efforts under 24 hours, its reasonable to thinkg about it in simple terms of 'nutrition' but in these big multi-day ultra running efforts where you're sleep-deprived and putting enormous pressure on your system you have to think about nourishment. At some point you have to go beyond considering electorlytes and begin considering all the nutrients - fat, protien, etc. How many calories do we burn in a 100 miler?How many calories are our body burning in days following without effort?How efficiently are we absorbing calories after one day of consecutive endurance effort?Is there a connection between sleep and absorbing nutrition?When you are at a nutritional deficiency in a race, can you catch back up?Post-multi day run recover requires immense calories.Caffeine is useful only if strategically timed. This episode offer good advice for anyone running The Speed Project or any multi-day endurance race or run. Presented by Kiprun. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    42 min
  4. Anne Flower | Black Canyon Ultras + Balancing Life as a Physician

    FEB 12

    Anne Flower | Black Canyon Ultras + Balancing Life as a Physician

    There's no such thing as an overnight success but Anne Flower sure felt like it in the last year. She appeared virtually out of no where to snag the Leadville 100 course record from the great Anne Trason, set the 50 mile world record at Tunnel Hill, and get the overall Win at Javelina Jundred. But its not true. She's been running hard for a long time but her first passion has been in the drivers seat - her career as a physician in Colorado Springs. She's racing Black Canyon Ultras - 100k - to test herself against a super speedy field and she sat down to talk with Josh to talk shop about her career to this point and how she's thinking about BC specifically. Anne's insights on trainingAnne's insights on ultra running from a physician's perspectiveHer approach compared to David Roche's as the two NEW Leadville CR holdersHer thoughts on Black Canyon's lack of prize moneyHer fondness for Moab trail racingHer perspective as an elite runner and sponsorships while remaining hyperfocused on her non-running career. Presented by Kiprun. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    45 min
  5. Francesco Puppi | Black Canyon, Running the American West, + Prize Money

    FEB 11

    Francesco Puppi | Black Canyon, Running the American West, + Prize Money

    Francesco Puppi has been ultra trail running for a long time, but his 2025 wins at UTMB's CCC, The Canyons 100k, and Chianti 47k put him squarely on the radar of the average American fan. Anytime Francesco Puppi is in a race, he's a contender and one that the other contenders have to account for. The Black Canyon course suits his marathon speed even with its techincality. He wins big mountain races but is speedy when the course suits. No matter how the race shakes out, Francesco Puppi will make it fun for fans simply by bringing his gifts to the race and course. Presented by Kiprun. Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, founder of Borderlands Trail Running. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    17 min
  6. Alex Zono | Black Canyon Ultras + "Running is My Best Friend"

    FEB 9

    Alex Zono | Black Canyon Ultras + "Running is My Best Friend"

    Alex Zono designs running gear for anyone who truly digs running. He puts his heart and soul into it and its not necessarily optimized for a pace, but a mindset and spirit. But don't let that playful lightheartedness fool you, Alex Zono is going to run Black Canyon 50k with intent to finish on the leaderboard. Go see his apparel line and you'll feel the juxtaposition of a brand truly in its element at Paris Fashion Week and a runner truly in his element at Black Canyon 50k. In this episode, Alex sits down with Josh Rosenthal and Sam Lohse in Borderlands Studio at Paris Fashion Week to talk about his love American dirtbag ultra and trail running, design, and the world of Paris Fashion Week for runners. "Running is My Best Friend" reference is from Alex Zono's collection. Presented by Kiprun. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    34 min
  7. Paris Fashion Week is for Runners

    FEB 6

    Paris Fashion Week is for Runners

    Josh Rosenthal, Inky Steve, Sam Lohse, Mike Kratzer, and Simon Freeman (co-founder of Like the Wind) sat down in the Borderlands Podcast Studio at Paris Fashion Week to talk about the purpose of PFW and why its important for runners to pay attention to it. You certianly don't have to, but if you're curious or care at all about what's happening with Running Apparel and Clothing, its a brilliant event. Its not for consumers though. It's a classic B2B event in random shops in the 3rd Arrondissement of Paris. There is no central hub telling you what shop is where. You only know where to go if you know where to go. Some brands post on social while others want to be 'found' more organically. It's all interesting. But also useful. Presented by Kiprun. ---- Borderlands.cc | Podcast NetworkSign up: analog*Borderlands [new]letterWylder is now available on iOS + Android.Salt Lake Foothills Trail Races | 30 May 2026

    39 min
  8. Paul Mellor | Why Should Runners Pay Attention to the Trail Running Industry?

    FEB 3

    Paul Mellor | Why Should Runners Pay Attention to the Trail Running Industry?

    Paul Mellor joins Josh on the show — founder of underdog-focused creative agency Mellor&Smith, executive producer and 4x BAFTA nominee on Boiling Point, and currently working on a fresh documentary about ultrarunning legend Lazarus Lake. We dive into why trail runners should care about the bigger outdoor industry, Nike's surprisingly humble return to trail running, what makes certain brands unforgettable (and why others fade into the background), and the power of standing out as an underdog. Presented by Kiprun. Paul Mellor is the founder of Mellor&Smith, a creative advertising agency that specializes in helping underdog outdoor brands — those not yet dominating their category — get noticed by the world. His clients include some of the biggest names in outdoor and adventure who are still fighting for pole position. Beyond advertising, Paul is an executive producer and four-time BAFTA nominee for the acclaimed film Boiling Point (yes, that intense one-take kitchen drama). He's currently deep into producing a new documentary on Lazarus Lake (Laz), the mythical creator of the Barkley Marathons and Big's Backyard Ultra — offering a perspective on Laz you've never seen before. Why trail runners and the trail community should pay attention to the wider outdoor industryNike's re-entry into the trail running space — why acg feels refreshingly humbleThe ingredients that make certain brands memorable in a crowded marketWhy some brands struggle to stand out and may never truly resonateThe mindset and creative approaches that help underdogs punch above their weight and get noticedA sneak peek into Paul's work on the upcoming Lazarus Lake documentary and what makes this take unique. Connect with Paul Mellor on LinkedIn Resources & Links:Nike ACGRaphaSatisfyThe Speed ProjectKantar Research — Insights on brand investment effectivenessPaul Dyson & 2009 + 2020 Media Study — On brand allocation and effective marketing leversspan class="ql-ui"...

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