Diabetes Dialogue: Technology, Therapeutics, & Real-World Perspectives

Diabetes Dialogue: Technology, Therapeutics, & Real-World Perspectives

Diabetes Dialogue: Technology, Therapeutics, & Real-World Perspectives is a podcast hosted by Drs. Diana Isaacs and Natalie Bellini aimed at providing a regular roundup of the latest clinically applicable insights across diabetes and metabolic diseases, with a focus on leveraging technology to improve care. A video version of each episode is available at HCPLive.com/Clinical/Endocrinology. Please direct podcast-related inquiries to PCampbell@MJHLifesciences.com. Editor's note: Episodes predating January 2023 were hosted by Endocrinology Network. Episodes predating March 2022 were titled The Endocrine Outlook.

  1. 9月5日

    Semaglutide & Tirzepatide Updates at ESC Congress 2025

    At ESC 2025, a pair of presentations highlighted the ongoing debate over cardiovascular risk reduction with semaglutide (Ozempic/Wegovy) and tirzepatide (Mounjaro/Zepbound), yielding conflicting signals that clinicians will need to interpret carefully. In this special edition episode, cohosts Diana Isaacs, PharmD, an endocrine clinical pharmacist, director of Education and Training in Diabetes Technology, and codirector of Endocrine Disorders in Pregnancy at the Cleveland Clinic, and Natalie Bellini, DNP, program director of Diabetes Technology at University Hospitals Diabetes and Metabolic Care Center, explore these studies: SURMOUNT-5 and STEER. A post hoc analysis of SURMOUNT-5 compared the 10-year predicted CV risk reduction between the 2 agents. Using the Framingham Risk Calculator in 751 patients with obesity, tirzepatide was associated with greater benefit than semaglutide. From baseline risks of ~9%, tirzepatide was projected to lower absolute 10-year CV risk by 2.4% (23% relative reduction) compared with 1.4% (13% relative reduction) for semaglutide. Investigators attributed the advantage largely to greater weight and glycemic reductions. In contrast, the STEER study, a real-world analysis of more than 21,000 patients with a mean follow-up of 8.5 months, suggested semaglutide was associated with lower rates of major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE) than tirzepatide. Semaglutide users had a 29% risk reduction in nonfatal MI, nonfatal stroke, or CV death compared with tirzepatide. Limitations included short follow-up, relatively few CV events, and the inherent confounding of observational data. Both Isaacs and Bellini emphasized that while weight and glycemic improvements with tirzepatide appear robust, CV benefits may be molecule-specific. The ongoing SURPASS-CVOT, comparing tirzepatide with dulaglutide, should provide more clarity when full data are released at EASD. In the interim, the hosts advised prescribing based on labeled indications supported by randomized outcomes data—semaglutide for CV and kidney risk reduction, tirzepatide for obesity and sleep apnea—while awaiting definitive trial results. Relevant disclosures for Isaacs include Eli Lilly and Company, Novo Nordisk, Sanofi, Abbott Diabetes Care, Dexcom, Medtronic, and others. Relevant disclosures for Bellini include Abbott Diabetes Care, MannKind, Provention Bio, and others. References: Mamas M. SURMOUNT-5: Tirzepatide compared to Semaglutide in obesity for 10-year CVD risk reduction .Presented at the European Society of Cardiology (ESC) Congress 2025. Madrid, Spain. August 29- September 1, 2025. Novo Nordisk. Novo Nordisk’s Wegovy® cuts risk of heart attack, stroke or death by 57% compared to tirzepatide in real-world study of people with obesity and cardiovascular disease. Novo Nordisk. Published August 31, 2025. Accessed September 5, 2025. https://www.novonordisk.com/content/nncorp/global/en/news-and-media/news-and-ir-materials/news-details.html?id=916422

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  2. 8月5日

    Tirzepatide and SURPASS-CVOT Topline Results

    On July 31, 2025, Eli Lilly and Company announced topline data from the SURPASS‑CVOT trial comparing tirzepatide (Mounjaro) to dulaglutide (Trulicity) in adults with type 2 diabetes and established atherosclerotic cardiovascular disease (ASCVD). According to the data, tirzepatide met the primary non‑inferiority endpoint for 3-point major adverse cardiovascular events (MACE) (hazard ratio [HR], 0.92; 95.3% CI, 0.83 to 1.01), while also showing additional benefits in A1C, weight reduction, renal preservation, and a 16% reduction in all‑cause mortality (HR, 0.84; 95.0% CI, 0.75 to 0.94). In the latest episode of Diabetes Dialogue: Technology, Therapeutics, and Real-World Perspectives, Diana Isaacs, PharmD, an endocrine clinical pharmacist, director of Education and Training in Diabetes Technology, and co-director of Endocrine Disorders in Pregnancy at the Cleveland Clinic, and Natalie Bellini, DNP, program director of Diabetes Technology at University Hospitals Diabetes and Metabolic Care Center, unpacked the top-line results of the SURPASS-CVOT trial. Eli Lilly and Company owns both drugs, which belong to the incretin class, but tirzepatide is a dual GIP/GLP-1 receptor agonist, while dulaglutide is a GLP-1 RA. The trial included over 13,000 adults with type 2 diabetes and either established cardiovascular disease or at high risk. During a median follow-up of 4.5 years, the primary endpoint, which was a composite of cardiovascular death, nonfatal myocardial infarction, and nonfatal stroke, was reduced by 8% in the tirzepatide group relative to dulaglutide. However, the result did not reach statistical superiority due to the confidence interval crossing unity. Isaacs and Bellini also highlighted significantly greater A1c (-1.73% vs -0.9%) and weight loss (12% vs 4.95%) with tirzepatide. Additional prespecified analyses comparing data with the placebo-controlled REWIND trial suggest tirzepatide could offer up to 28% MACE and 39% mortality risk reduction compared to theoretical placebo—findings that hint at broader cardiometabolic benefit. Before concluding, hosts speculated about the potential subgroup analyses of interest for the trial, including heart failure and renal outcomes, as well as a brief discussion around Eli Lilly and Company’s intent to submit a regulatory application for a cardiovascular indication before the close of 2025. Relevant disclosures for Isaacs include Eli Lilly and Company, Novo Nordisk, Sanofi, Abbott Diabetes Care, Dexcom, Medtronic, and others. Relevant disclosures for Bellini include Abbott Diabetes Care, MannKind, Provention Bio, and others. References: Eli Lilly and Company. Lilly's Mounjaro (tirzepatide), a GIP/GLP-1 dual agonist, demonstrated cardiovascular protection in landmark head-to-head trial, reinforcing its benefit in patients with type 2 diabetes and heart disease. July 31, 2025. Accessed July 31, 2025. https://investor.lilly.com/news-releases/news-release-details/lillys-mounjaro-tirzepatide-gipglp-1-dual-agonist-demonstrated

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Diabetes Dialogue: Technology, Therapeutics, & Real-World Perspectives is a podcast hosted by Drs. Diana Isaacs and Natalie Bellini aimed at providing a regular roundup of the latest clinically applicable insights across diabetes and metabolic diseases, with a focus on leveraging technology to improve care. A video version of each episode is available at HCPLive.com/Clinical/Endocrinology. Please direct podcast-related inquiries to PCampbell@MJHLifesciences.com. Editor's note: Episodes predating January 2023 were hosted by Endocrinology Network. Episodes predating March 2022 were titled The Endocrine Outlook.

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