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Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.

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    302 Days From Stealth to the Largest Cybersecurity Series A in History

    302 days ago we launched from stealth with a belief that sounded almost reckless: that AI agents could do the repetitive security work that burns out defenders and buries teams in false positives. Today we're announcing that 7AI has raised a $130 million Series A led by Index Ventures, with Blackstone joining as a new investor alongside Greylock, CRV, and Spark. To mark this milestone, we recorded a special episode of the DO HUMAN WORK podcast with Lior Div (CEO & Co-Founder) and Yonatan Striem Amit (CTO & Co-Founder). In this episode, they share what this announcement truly means, not just for 7AI, but for customers and for security teams everywhere. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – 7AI secures $130 million Series A 02:30 – The impact of investor belief 03:00 – Industry-first: AI's reliability in cybersecurity 05:00 – Trusting AI for consistent outcomes 07:00 – What is the Plaid Model? 09:30 – Fighting AI threats with AI solutions 11:00 – Advancing security from human work to AI-driven operations 14:00 – Future-proofing with federated data 16:00 – Elevating security teams with AI-driven investigations Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    Cyber Leadership without the Ego featuring Olivia Phillips

    Most cybersecurity conversations obsess over tools, threats, and tech. But what if the real evolution is happening in the human layer, a shift most in the industry aren’t used to seeing? In this episode, BISO and industry voice Olivia Phillips join Nate and Lior to redefine what effective security leadership looks like in the age of AI. Olivia shares insights from behavioral science, organizational psychology, and decades of cyber experience, revealing why influence without authority, real transparency, and emotional intelligence are now core cybersecurity capabilities. She also discusses the future impact of quantum, the shift toward value-driven security investments, and why trust is earned, not given. Impactful Moments: 00:00 — Introduction 01:00 — What is a BISO 03:00 — AI, quantum, and the next era 05:30 — Building influence without authority 09:00 — Security ROI: “Show me the value” 11:00 — Ego, communication, and human dynamics 14:00 — Trust: hard to earn, easy to lose 17:00 — How real AI adoption happens 22:00 — If Olivia got 25% of her time back 29:00 — Transparency, feedback, and leadership growth 34:00 — Chaos, creativity, and the “cyber misfit” mindset Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    Fight Fire With Fire: Using AI to Outpace Attackers featuring Ron Eddings

    How is AI reshaping the cybersecurity landscape, and what does this mean for the future of cyber professionals? In this episode, Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Ron Eddings, a gen AI security researcher and co-founder and CEO of Hacker Valley Media, to explore these pressing questions. Ron discusses his journey from a traditional cybersecurity role to becoming a thought leader and content creator focused on the confluence of humanity and technology. The conversation delves into Ron’s belief that AI will one day replace many cybersecurity roles, but not without creating opportunities for new, more strategic positions. They also explore the notion of AI agents, multi-agents, and the potential magic of a model context protocol. Throughout the episode, Ron offers insights into how AI can eliminate repetitive, non-human tasks, freeing up time for creativity and strategic thinking. He elaborates on his contrarian belief in the capacity of AI to eventually overhaul cybersecurity jobs, for the better. Together, the hosts and Ron reflect on how the integration of AI in cybersecurity will redefine the way we talk, train, and work in this field. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – Ron’s mission in cybersecurity content 02:00 – From mental athlete to thought leader 03:00 – Creating a platform, not just a podcast 07:00 – AI’s impact on Tier One analysts 10:00 – AI agents explained through a personal story 12:00 – The evolution to multi-agent systems 15:00 – Real-time data challenges in AI development 24:00 – Providing exceptional value in the experience age 25:00 – Contemplating the future: AI to replace cybersecurity jobs Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    Building Trust in AI: Governance that Empowers featuring Dirce Hernandez

    In this episode of Do Human Work, Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Dirce Hernandez, Sr. Cybersecurity GRC Manager and adjunct professor, to demystify AI governance beyond the buzzwords. From defining governance in plain language to setting practical guardrails like policies, steering groups, and human-in-the-loop reviews, Dirce shares how organizations can innovate without risking shadow AI, data leakage, or checkbox compliance. He also digs into higher ed’s adoption curve, how explainability is becoming non-negotiable with regulators, and why leadership buy-in beats tool sprawl. Plus: actionable career advice for students and pros alike, evolving certifications (CCSK and beyond), and how AI can supercharge upskilling paths without replacing human judgment. Impactful Moments 00:00 – Defining real AI governance 02:15 – Why tech alone can’t solve it 05:30 – Guardrails begin with clear policy 07:05 – The role of human-in-the-loop 09:40 – Explainability meets regulation 12:50 – Leadership buy-in before implementation 15:10 – Building trust beyond checkbox compliance 18:00 – Mentoring to close the talent gap 19:20 – AI accelerating upskilling in cybersecurity 26:10 – Certifications and GRC evolve for the AI era Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    People-Led, AI-Driven: When Humans Lead, Tech Follows featuring Wayman Cummings

    In this episode of Do Human Work, Nate Burke and Lior Div welcome Wayman Cummings, the Chief Information Security Officer at Ochsner Health Systems, to discuss the revolutionary role of AI in cybersecurity. From pioneering the use of robots at the Super Bowl to insights on mentoring diverse teams, Wayman shares his vision for AI as an enabler of human potential. The episode explores how he integrates AI into cybersecurity practices to empower defenders and why he believes in choosing partners over vendors for collaborative success. Wayman also provides a unique perspective on hiring practices that could transform cybersecurity teams, focusing on unconventional backgrounds and innate problem-solving abilities rather than traditional experience. As AI continues to reshape industries, Wayman envisions a future where technology works hand-in-hand with human ingenuity, creating powerful synergies and new opportunities for growth.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:20 – Augmented intelligence at the Super Bowl 02:45 – AI in cybersecurity threats and defense 05:55 – Partnership over vendors in tech 08:10 – Unconventional hiring practices 10:30 – Applying unique analyst skills 12:45 – AI's role in understanding threats 18:05 – Predictive analysis using AI 22:30 – Unreasonable hospitality in healthcare 25:00 – The future of AI and human collaboration 27:20 – Humility and communication for aspiring CISOs   Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    Balancing Innovation and Risk with AI featuring Bill Brown

    What insights from past IT revolutions should today's CISOs understand, and how can AI transform cybersecurity in healthcare? Bill Brown, Chief Information Security Officer and Chief Information Officer at Abacus Insights, joins hosts Nate Burke and guest host, Yonatan Striem-Amit, for an engaging discussion on AI's role in securing sensitive healthcare data. Brown shares his journey from IT in the early days to leading security at Abacus Insights, emphasizing the balance between innovation and risk. Discover how AI is reshaping cybersecurity and hear unique insights into transforming traditional roles. Impactful Moments:  00:00 - Introduction 01:00 - Guest introduction: Bill Brown 02:30 - Lessons from past IT revolutions 03:40 - Bill Brown's career journey 05:20 - Challenges in protecting healthcare data 07:00 - AI's role in healthcare insights 10:30 - Impact of AI on compliance and efficiency 15:00 - Balancing security with innovation 20:20 - Importance of balancing human work with AI   Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    AI Before It Was Cool: Law Firm Innovation featuring Jason Thomas

    What happens when a law firm becomes an early adopter of AI? Hosts Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Jason Thomas, CIO of Cole, Scott & Kissane, Florida’s largest civil defense law firm, to explore how AI is changing up the legal and cybersecurity landscape. From pioneering AI in finance operations nearly a decade ago to empowering teams with cutting-edge automation, Jason shares how his firm challenges the stereotype of law firms as technology laggards. Recorded live at Black Hat 2025, this conversation covers cultural shifts needed to embrace AI, the importance of reallocating talent rather than replacing it, and why the modern SOC may already be on the path to legacy status. Discover how forward-looking leaders like Jason are redefining human work, keeping teams engaged, and preparing for the AI-driven future of cybersecurity. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 02:00 – Law firms embracing cutting-edge AI 03:15 – Reallocating people to meaningful work 04:45 – AI as augmentation, not replacement 06:00 – First impressions of 7AI’s potential 07:45 – Building a culture of curiosity and trust 10:00 – Marketing hype vs. AI reality 12:00 – Trust and reputation in cybersecurity 13:15 – Why law firms are prime cyber targets 15:00 – The “magic wand” time question 16:00 – The SOC of today is legacy 18:00 – The pace of AI evolution 20:00 – From single agents to swarms 22:00 – Reinventing help desk and user support 24:00 – Correlating alerts like human intuition 25:00 – The future is already here Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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    Beyond the Status Quo: Innovation as the New Security Mandate featuring Kyle Kurdziolek

    What happens when cybersecurity leaders stop just managing risk and start driving innovation? Hosts Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Kyle Kurdziolek, VP of Security at BigID, to introduce the bold idea of the Chief Innovation Security Officer. In an era where AI is reshaping both defense strategies and attacker playbooks, Kyle reveals how forward-thinking leaders can harness AI to scale their teams, cut through alert fatigue, and stay ahead of adversaries. Recorded live at Black Hat, this episode of Do Human Work challenges listeners to rethink the role of AI in security, not as a threat, but as an accelerator. Discover how embracing AI to offload repetitive tasks empowers humans to do what only they can: think critically, solve complex problems, and drive the future of cybersecurity.   Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 00:45 – The birth of the Chief Innovation Security Officer concept 03:00 – Differences between traditional CISOs and AI-driven roles 06:15 – The Netflix analogy: evolving security with AI 10:37 – Realizing AI's potential in cybersecurity 15:30 – Human work vs. machine work: Finding the balance 18:25 – Integrating AI to elevate security teams   Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

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Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.

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