Do Human Work

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Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.

  1. 1d ago

    The Bet Most Security Teams Are Losing featuring Nicole Beckwith

    Most security teams are still betting that hygiene problems and AI-scale problems live in separate categories. Nicole Beckwith, Senior Director of Security Engineering and Operations at Cribl, has seen exactly how that bet goes wrong from the inside. Nate and Lior caught up with Nicole to talk about why the basics still break organizations faster than any AI threat, what it actually takes to secure AI agents as identities rather than tools, and where defenders are quietly getting ahead of attackers for the first time in years.  Organizations are racing to get ahead of AI-driven threats while the thing that actually takes most of them down is something mundane: a stale account, a siloed team, or a SIEM nobody's feeding properly. AI doesn't replace the need for fundamentals, it raises the stakes of skipping them, and Nicole has the breach story to prove it.  Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 02:30 – Nicole Beckwith joins Do Human Work 06:30 – Why Mythos is a canary in the coal mine 09:50 – The Register story: a city water utility's ransomware breach 15:00 – Why AI agents need identity security like any employee 17:40 – Shadow AI: the new shadow IT problem 22:05 – The Cribl/7AI feedback loop and building together 27:30 – Where defenders are getting ahead 29:35 – Breaking SOC silos: intelligence, hunting, and response as one cycle 32:00 – The "push-button forensic analyst" problem, and AI's version of it 33:30 – Trust, verify, and interrogate: working with an AI investigator 37:40 – The magic wand question: what Nicole would do with 25% more time 39:20 – Lightning round questions with Nicole Beckwith Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    44 min

  2. Jun 9

    The Fundamentals Don't Care About Your AI Stack featuring Mark-David McLaughlin

    When Claude Mythos dropped, the question wasn't whether AI could find vulnerabilities, it was whether defenders would move faster than the attackers who were already racing toward the same capability. The gap between those two timelines is shrinking faster than most organizations want to admit, and the teams still betting on the old playbook are about to find out what that costs. Nate and Lior sat down with Mark-David McLaughlin, Head of Security Architecture and Engineering at InterSystems, whose software quietly powers hospitals, health systems, and critical infrastructure worldwide. Mark-David came up through software engineering at Cisco, a decade in PSIRT handling incidents when things went badly wrong, and now leads product security for one of the most sensitive industries on the planet.  His take on what AI actually changes is grounded in 20+ years of hard lessons, and at least one story that will make you rethink how much you trust your SOC. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 03:00 – Mark-David’s origin story: high school pranks, real consequences 07:00 – How incident response is changing where AI is being introduced 08:00 – We're losing the architecture review to AI 13:10 – The bad guys will have this new technology in months, act now 17:00 – The SOC model won't carry us to the future 19:50 – Ransomware, nation-states, and kinetic-cyber fusion 25:30 – If anyone goes onto a web interface in 5 years, we’ve done our jobs wrong 31:00 – How AI almost framed an innocent developer 34:30 – How your team will change as a software architecture company with AI  41:30 – Why healthcare is uniquely hard to secure 47:30 – Rapid fire questions with Mark-David Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    50 min

  3. May 20

    Not All Agents Are Created Equal featuring Brian Fricke

    Breakout time has collapsed from 285 minutes to 17 seconds. Attackers are running orchestration agents around the clock while defenders are still scheduling a meeting about it.  Brian Fricke, CISO at AutoNation, has done something rare. He's built security programs from the ground up four times across the military, government, and heavily regulated financial institutions. He joins Nate and Lior, live from RSAC, to break down the governance mistake almost every organization is making with AI agents right now, and what a risk-tiered framework actually looks like in practice. Impactful Moments:  00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – Brian's background: four programs built from scratch 05:10 – Why bad guys don't have a human-in-the-loop problem 08:00 – How to structure an information security program: the full framework 11:50 – Not everything needs AI: the case for deterministic automation 15:00 – The four agent types and why risk tiering matters for governance 19:00 – Why vendors should start agents in read-only mode and earn trust 20:50 – People on the loop, not in the loop 30:00 – Attackers are running at machine speed, defenders are running at meeting speed 33:00 – The inflection point: finding attacks no other tool caught 38:40 – Unpopular opinion: CISOs would make the best CIOs 41:00 – What security teams look like in the future: upscaling with the next agents   Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    43 min

  4. Apr 16

    The SOC Is a Ticking Clock featuring Anthony LaForte

    The cybersecurity industry has spent decades throwing bodies at the same three problems: too much noise, not enough context, and not enough budget. AI didn't create those problems, but it's about to make ignoring them dangerous. Recorded at RSAC Conference 2026, Nate and Lior sat down with Anthony LaForte, Director of Cyber Operations at an HR and benefits tech company protecting the financial and health data of millions. Anthony came up through forensics, malware reverse engineering, and SOC leadership at McKesson, where a mentor told him on day one that a wrong move here means someone dies. That reality never left him, and it shapes everything about how he thinks about security, risk, and what it means to lead in a world where attackers are automating faster than defenders can adapt. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 03:22 – Attacker mindset shapes every decision 05:00 – AI lowers attacker barriers, raises ours 10:18 – "If you screw up, people die" 11:45 – 200,000 alerts tuned down manually 15:10 – 800 alerts, one real threat hidden inside 17:00 – Vulnerability management is broken everywhere 22:10 – Security was a point-in-time decision 27:45 – Strategy and judgment belong to humans 34:20 – 25% back? He'd mentor his team 42:05 – "I don't think there'll be a SOC in five years" Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    44 min

  5. 12/04/2025

    302 Days From Stealth to the Largest Cybersecurity Series A in History

    302 days ago we launched from stealth with a belief that sounded almost reckless: that AI agents could do the repetitive security work that burns out defenders and buries teams in false positives. Today we're announcing that 7AI has raised a $130 million Series A led by Index Ventures, with Blackstone joining as a new investor alongside Greylock, CRV, and Spark. To mark this milestone, we recorded a special episode of the DO HUMAN WORK podcast with Lior Div (CEO & Co-Founder) and Yonatan Striem Amit (CTO & Co-Founder). In this episode, they share what this announcement truly means, not just for 7AI, but for customers and for security teams everywhere. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – 7AI secures $130 million Series A 02:30 – The impact of investor belief 03:00 – Industry-first: AI's reliability in cybersecurity 05:00 – Trusting AI for consistent outcomes 07:00 – What is the Plaid Model? 09:30 – Fighting AI threats with AI solutions 11:00 – Advancing security from human work to AI-driven operations 14:00 – Future-proofing with federated data 16:00 – Elevating security teams with AI-driven investigations Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    19 min

  6. 11/25/2025

    Cyber Leadership without the Ego featuring Olivia Phillips

    Most cybersecurity conversations obsess over tools, threats, and tech. But what if the real evolution is happening in the human layer, a shift most in the industry aren’t used to seeing? In this episode, BISO and industry voice Olivia Phillips join Nate and Lior to redefine what effective security leadership looks like in the age of AI. Olivia shares insights from behavioral science, organizational psychology, and decades of cyber experience, revealing why influence without authority, real transparency, and emotional intelligence are now core cybersecurity capabilities. She also discusses the future impact of quantum, the shift toward value-driven security investments, and why trust is earned, not given. Impactful Moments: 00:00 — Introduction 01:00 — What is a BISO 03:00 — AI, quantum, and the next era 05:30 — Building influence without authority 09:00 — Security ROI: “Show me the value” 11:00 — Ego, communication, and human dynamics 14:00 — Trust: hard to earn, easy to lose 17:00 — How real AI adoption happens 22:00 — If Olivia got 25% of her time back 29:00 — Transparency, feedback, and leadership growth 34:00 — Chaos, creativity, and the “cyber misfit” mindset Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    47 min

  7. 11/20/2025

    Fight Fire With Fire: Using AI to Outpace Attackers featuring Ron Eddings

    How is AI reshaping the cybersecurity landscape, and what does this mean for the future of cyber professionals? In this episode, Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Ron Eddings, a gen AI security researcher and co-founder and CEO of Hacker Valley Media, to explore these pressing questions. Ron discusses his journey from a traditional cybersecurity role to becoming a thought leader and content creator focused on the confluence of humanity and technology. The conversation delves into Ron’s belief that AI will one day replace many cybersecurity roles, but not without creating opportunities for new, more strategic positions. They also explore the notion of AI agents, multi-agents, and the potential magic of a model context protocol. Throughout the episode, Ron offers insights into how AI can eliminate repetitive, non-human tasks, freeing up time for creativity and strategic thinking. He elaborates on his contrarian belief in the capacity of AI to eventually overhaul cybersecurity jobs, for the better. Together, the hosts and Ron reflect on how the integration of AI in cybersecurity will redefine the way we talk, train, and work in this field. Impactful Moments: 00:00 – Introduction 01:00 – Ron’s mission in cybersecurity content 02:00 – From mental athlete to thought leader 03:00 – Creating a platform, not just a podcast 07:00 – AI’s impact on Tier One analysts 10:00 – AI agents explained through a personal story 12:00 – The evolution to multi-agent systems 15:00 – Real-time data challenges in AI development 24:00 – Providing exceptional value in the experience age 25:00 – Contemplating the future: AI to replace cybersecurity jobs Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    34 min

  8. 11/10/2025

    Building Trust in AI: Governance that Empowers featuring Dirce Hernandez

    In this episode of Do Human Work, Nate Burke and Lior Div sit down with Dirce Hernandez, Sr. Cybersecurity GRC Manager and adjunct professor, to demystify AI governance beyond the buzzwords. From defining governance in plain language to setting practical guardrails like policies, steering groups, and human-in-the-loop reviews, Dirce shares how organizations can innovate without risking shadow AI, data leakage, or checkbox compliance. He also digs into higher ed’s adoption curve, how explainability is becoming non-negotiable with regulators, and why leadership buy-in beats tool sprawl. Plus: actionable career advice for students and pros alike, evolving certifications (CCSK and beyond), and how AI can supercharge upskilling paths without replacing human judgment. Impactful Moments 00:00 – Defining real AI governance 02:15 – Why tech alone can’t solve it 05:30 – Guardrails begin with clear policy 07:05 – The role of human-in-the-loop 09:40 – Explainability meets regulation 12:50 – Leadership buy-in before implementation 15:10 – Building trust beyond checkbox compliance 18:00 – Mentoring to close the talent gap 19:20 – AI accelerating upskilling in cybersecurity 26:10 – Certifications and GRC evolve for the AI era Interested in being a guest or want to recommend someone? Reach out to us at DoHumanWork@7ai.com

    33 min
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Do Human Work is a forward-looking exploration of the future of cybersecurity through the lens of AI with an emphasis on enabling people to do work that’s creative, meaningful, and strategic. Each episode highlights people, their time, and how AI can empower us to focus on what matters most in cybersecurity operations.

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  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
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