Equiosity

Equiosity

Equiosity is the podcast about all things equine with a special emphasis on the horse-human bond.

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    Episode 370 Catching Up Pt 3 Pre-performance Rituals, and 300 Peck Pigeons

    In 2025 Dominique needed to take some time off over the summer. I went ahead and did a series of interviews, including one with Dr Claire St Peter and Dr Carol Pilgrim, episodes 349 to 351. We were talking about stimulus control. Those episodes aired in the fall. The episode you’re about to listen to was supposed to air back in the fall as well, but somehow it fell between the cracks and we moved on with other interviews instead. Now we’re airing that conversation. In Part 1 we talked about the standard instructions for teaching cues and the way that I prefer to teach them. The standard instructions make use of extinction. I prefer to teach behaviors in pairs. I make use of a very powerful reminder: for every exercise there is an opposite exercise you must teach to keep things in balance. The result is strong stimulus control. In Part 2 Dominique asked about learning what to click. When you are first starting out and you’ve never taught a behavior before, how do you know what to click? How do you avoid making a total mess of your stimulus control because you are clicking so many different versions of the behavior you’re after. We talked about becoming a selective sifter. Even when you aren’t sure what you want to click because the behavior you’re teaching is new to you, you can still apply “narrow end of the funnel” thinking as you build the new behavior. In Part 3 we begin with environmental cues and pre-performance cues. Then we head into a discussion of 300 peck pigeons. Environmental cues include distractions. Distractions are often seen as something negative, something handlers try to avoid to the point that distractions become a source of anxiety for the handler. Instead distractions can be transformed into stimuli handlers can use to advance their training. Distractions led us to training for duration and that took us to a discussion of a lesson I developed for Robin when he was a youngster. I called it the 300 Hundred Peck Pigeon Lesson. Dominique wondered if 28 years on from the time I developed that lesson for Robin would I still use it? That took us to a discussion of boarding barns and the constraints we are often working under when we can’t keep our horses at home. Those constraints often mean we have to become very creative to meet the mental, emotional and physical needs of our horses.

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    Episode 368 Catching Up With Dominique Part 1 Stimulus Control

    In 2025 Dominique needed to take some time off over the summer. I went ahead and did a series of interviews, including one with Dr Claire St Peter and Dr Carol Pilgrim, episodes 349 to 351. We were talking about stimulus control. Those episodes aired in the fall. The episode you’re about to listen to was supposed to air back in the fall as well, but somehow it fell between the cracks and we moved on with other interviews instead. We talked with Dr. Stephanie Jones, Sofia Abuin and Lucy Butler about control, coercion and empathy. After that, in the run-up to the Clicker Expo we did an interview with Chirag Patel. And now finally here’s Part One of a three part conversation that Dominique and I had after Dominique listened to the interview with Dr Pilgrim and Dr St Peter. You might want to listen to those episodes first, but it is by no means necessary for you to have heard that conversation for you to be able to follow along here. The conversation with Dr Pulgrim and Dr St Peter sparked lots of questions for Dominique. We begin by comparing the standard instructions for teaching cues and stimulus control with the way that I prefer to teach them. The standard instructions make use of extinction. I prefer to teach behaviors in pairs. I make use of a very powerful reminder: for every exercise there is an opposite exercise you must teach to keep things in balance. The result is strong stimulus control. Another expression that I refer to frequently when we talk about cues is cues evolve out of the teaching process. The standard instructions for teaching cues distorts the handlers ability to see cues as they are evolving. We need to be noticing what our horse is noticing and this old way of teaching cues is taking us in the opposite direction. Several stories illustrate how the teaching behaviors in pairs works to generate well understood, reliable cues.

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    Episode 367 Chirag Patel Pt 3 Marker Signals, Cues, Chains, and Behavior Streams

    This is part 3 of a conversation with Chirag Patel. Chirag is based in London where consults on the ethical and science-based practice of behavior management and training for animals housed in domestic, zoo, and laboratory environments. Chirag earned his BSc (Hons) in Veterinary Sciences from the Royal Veterinary College in London and a Postgraduate Certificate in Clinical Animal Behavior from the University of Lincoln, UK. He is also a certified parrot behavior consultant (CPBC) with the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC). Currently, Chirag is studying for a MSc in Applied Behavior Analysis. In Part 1 talked about the up-coming March 2026 Clicker Expo. For several years now Chirag and several other faculty members have done a presentation that they call The Backstage Pass. Basically each trainer picks a dog/handler team from the audience and works with that team on stage towards a stated goal behavior. Each team works with the trainer for a few minutes at a time, then there’s a discussion of the why’s and wherefores of the methods used. It’s an interesting presentation. You get to see different styles of training as each trainer gets to know the dog and the handler they are working with. This year they decided to do something a little different. Instead of inviting dog specialists to participate as the trainers, they decided to ask faculty members who don’t typically work with dogs. When they asked me, for some very bizarre reason, I said yes. Chirag will be the ring master for the backstage pass. When I’ve watched him in previous years I’ve seen that he is a very creative trainer who comes up with some inventive solutions for helping dogs and handlers to be at ease. His training style is very different from mine which for me is of interest to me. We ended Part 1 with a question about marker signals. Often in those backstage pass demos Chirag trains with food, but he doesn’t yet use a marker signal. He described his thinking behind this strategy. In Part 2 we began with my reasons for the choices I make related to the use of marker signals. The click in clicker training has been referred to in many ways. It is a bridge, a marker signal, a snap shot. It is very much a cue. I add yet another metaphor for the role the click plays. It is a gatekeeper. I explained what I mean by that in Part 2. In Part 3 we add the use of chains and the role that cues play in linking behaviors together to the discussion of marker signals.

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    Episode 364 Chirag Patel Pt 1 Your Backstage Pass to a Multi Species Conversation

    This is part 1 of a conversation with Chirag Patel. Chirag is based in London where consults on the ethical and science-based practice of behavior management and training for animals housed in domestic, zoo, and laboratory environments. Chirag earned his BSc (Hons) in Veterinary Sciences from the Royal Veterinary College in London and a Postgraduate Certificate in Clinical Animal Behavior from the University of Lincoln, UK. He is also a certified parrot behavior consultant (CPBC) with the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants (IAABC). Currently, Chirag is studying for a MSc in Applied Behavior Analysis. Chirag is a member of the Clicker Expo faculty which is where I first met him. The Clicker Expo is the reason behind this conversation. For several years now Chirag and several other faculty members have done a presentation that they call The Backstage Pass. Basically each trainer picks a dog/handler team from the audience and works with that team on stage towards a stated goal behavior. Each team works with the trainer for a few minutes at a time, then there’s a discussion of the why’s and wherefores of the methods used. It’s an interesting presentation. You get to see different styles of training as each trainer gets to know the dog and the handler they are working with. This year they decided to do something a little different. Instead of inviting dog specialists to participate as the trainers, they decided to ask faculty members who don’t typically work with dogs. When they asked me, for some very bizarre reason, I said yes. Chirag will be the ring master for the backstage pass. When I’ve watched him in previous years I’ve seen that he is a very creative trainer who comes up with some inventive solutions for helping dogs and handlers to be at ease. His training style is very different from mine which for me is of interest.

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Equiosity is the podcast about all things equine with a special emphasis on the horse-human bond.

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