
302 episodes

Evidence Based Birth® Rebecca Dekker, PhD, RN
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4.4 • 842 Ratings
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In the Evidence Based Birth® podcast, we cover the research evidence on hot topics about pregnancy and childbirth! Our mission is to help birth workers build the evidence based knowledge, skills, and power they need to protect families' ability to give birth with empowerment. The work we do has a huge impact on parents who are searching for accurate information to empower their prenatal, birth, and postpartum experiences!
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EBB 292: Confronting the Unknowns in Childbirth with Liesel Teen of the Mommy Labor Nurse
In this episode, I’m joined by Liesel Teen, a seasoned L&D nurse and childbirth educator and the creator of Mommy Labor Nurse, where she reveals the common myths surrounding pregnancy and birth.
Learn about the shocking misconceptions, such as babies running out of room, the impact of baby size on vaginal delivery, the importance of partner education, and the need for postpartum care. She also delves into the unexpected, and rare, scenario of giving birth in the car, and shares essential tips for partners and mothers on how to keep the baby safe and warm during this intense moment. Liesel's valuable insights will empower expectant parents to approach their childbirth journey with knowledge and confidence. Discover the truth behind these myths and how to prepare for a positive birth experience.
Content Warnings: emergency car births, risk of stillbirth, gendered language
Resources:
Follow Liesel’s work: website, podcast, IG, Facebook, TikTok Learn more about Push Pregnancy on their website Check out some Mommy Labor Nurse podcast episodes: Episode 197 - Pharmaceutical Pain Options for Labor (other than an epidural!) Episode 199 - The Evidence on Natural Labor Induction with Dr. Rebecca Dekker Listen to an EBB Episode:
EBB 243 - The Importance of Kick Counting for Preventing Stillbirth with Stephaney Moody, Health Equity Ambassador of Count the Kicks
For more information and news about Evidence Based Birth®, visit www.ebbirth.com.
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EBB 291 - Evidence on Skin-to-Skin after a Cesarean
In this episode, we delve into the latest evidence-based information on skin-to-skin care in the operating room after a Cesarean. I'm joined by co-host Sara Ailshire, a doctoral candidate in anthropology and the 2023 EBB Research Fellow, and we explore the history, benefits, and barriers surrounding this practice. Discover how skin-to-skin care positively influences lactation, stabilizes newborns, and enhances the birth experience, and learn why some hospitals and providers are hesitant to offer it and how these barriers can be overcome.
*If you want the Pocket Guides we mention at the beginning of this episode, you can see if we have any in stock here!
Content Warning: topics related to Cesarean sections, preterm birth, NICU stays, separation of parents and babies, infant mortality rates, and the impact of racism on Cesarean rates and lactation.
Resources:
For a full list of resources and references please visit our Evidence for Skin to Skin Care After a Cesarean page here. To read the full Signature Article on Skin to Skin Care After a Cesarean and download our 1-Page Handout, click here. To read the updated ACOG opinion on 'Optimizing Support for Breastfeeding as Part of Obstetric Practice,' click here.
Relevant EBB Signature Articles:
Evidence on Midwives Evidence on Doulas Evidence on Anti-Racism in Health Care and Birth Work
Listen to EBB Episodes:
EBB 135 - The Need for More Indigenous Birth Workers with Miranda Kelly EBB 161 - Addressing Maternity Bias and Infant Care with Irth® App Founder, Kimberly Seals Allers EBB 189 - Why Black Lactation Matters and the Importance of Black Breastfeeding Week with IBCLC, Janiya Mitnaul Williams EBB 214 - Supporting Pumping Parents in Lactation with IBCLC, Nichelle Clark EBB 265 - Evidence on Anti-Racism in Health Care and Birth Work
EBB 278 - Creating an Innovative, Afrocentric Model of Prenatal Care with Hakima Payne, Founder and Executive Director of Uzazi Village
For more information and news about Evidence Based Birth®, visit www.ebbirth.com.
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Want to get involved at EBB?
Find out if our Pocket Guides are currently available by visiting our shop here! Check out our EBB Professional Membership (including scholarship options) here.
Find an EBB Instructor here.
Click here to learn more about the Evidence Based Birth® Childbirth Class.
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EBB 290 - Supporting Black Families from Pregnancy through Lactation with Dr. Nastassia Harris, Founder of of Perinatal Health Equity Initiative
In this episode, I'm talking with Dr. Nastassia Harris, a registered nurse and international board-certified lactation consultant, to discuss her extensive experience in the field of maternal and infant health. Dr. Harris shares her journey into this vital profession, highlighting her passion for improving breastfeeding rates in the Black community and eliminating racial disparities in maternal and infant health. She sheds light on the work of the Perinatal Health Equity Initiative, a nonprofit organization she founded, and her newest venture, Ignite Maternal Health, aimed at providing essential education and support to mother-baby nurses. Dr. Harris offers valuable insights into the challenges faced by Black families and the critical role that education, culturally congruent care, and community resources play in saving lives and preventing adverse outcomes in the postpartum period. Tune in to learn more about the impactful work being done to enhance maternal health and support families during this crucial phase of life.
Content Warning: racism, Black infant and maternal mortality, preeclampsia
Resources:
Learn about Nastassia’s work, here: Perinatal Health Equity Initiative website Sistahs Who Breastfeed website Ignite Maternal Health website Follow Nastassia’s work:
Instagram @perintal_equity and @ignite_mh
Perinatal Health Equity Initiative’s Facebook and LinkedIn page
Learn more about related efforts mentioned by Nastassia:
Black Mamas Matter Alliance, website Black Breastfeeding Week, website Black Maternal Health Week, website Chocolate Milk Cafe, website Center for Disease Control's (CDC) Hear Her campaign, website Read the book referenced, The 4-Hour Workweek by Tim Ferris, here
Listen to EBB episodes:
EBB 280 – Bringing Equity to Lactation Imagery with Nekisha Killings, IBCLC and Founder of the Melanated Mammary Atlas®
EBB 214 – Supporting Pumping Parents in Lactation with IBCLC, Nichelle Clark -
EBB 289 - Pregnancy with Type 1 Diabetes, a Difficult Birth and Shoulder Dystocia with EBB Childbirth Class Graduate Siri Lachmansingh
In this episode, I'm joined by Siri Lachmansingh, who shares her remarkable journey of pregnancy and childbirth while managing type 1 diabetes.
Siri delves into the unique challenges and considerations for pregnant individuals with diabetes, including blood sugar management and medical monitoring. Siri also takes us through the choices she made during her induction process and the empowering moments she experienced during her second birth journey. Tune in as Siri's story highlights the importance of informed decision-making and the strength that can come from embracing evidence-based care during pregnancy and childbirth.
Content Note: This episode discusses topics related to pregnancy, childbirth, and managing type 1 diabetes during pregnancy. While the conversation is focused on informed decision-making and evidence-based care, it may contain medical details and experiences that could be sensitive for some listeners— including a description (starting at 41 minutes) of obstetric violence, shoulder dystocia, and birth injury to a newborn. Please be mindful of your own comfort and emotional well-being while listening.
Trigger Warning: shoulder dystocia, birth injury to a newborn, and obstetric violence
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Follow Siri's journey:
Instagram @sirilachmansingh
Siri's Birth Hour podcast episode Find out more about Siri’s birth and childbirth education team here: Doula Aileen (https://www.doulaaileen.com/), Heather Christine Struwe (https://holisticcontinuum.com) and Rhonda Fellows (https://www.oilydoulamn.com/about.html)
Find out more about the EBB Childbirth Class here.
Learn about Brachial Plexus social support systems:
Erb’s Palsy Facebook page (for Brachial Plexus Palsy): https://www.facebook.com/enderbspalsy/ Public support group (“Oliver’s Friends”): https://www.facebook.com/groups/OliversFriends/ Learn more about the evidence and research on shoulder dystocia :
Research on team training for prevention and treatment of shoulder dystocia: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25688719/ "PROMPT" protocol from the United Kingdom is being applied in the United States. Click here to learn more: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26513456/ PROMPT training news video: https://fox4kc.com/health/training-program-helps-to-improve-outcomes-for-babies-and-moms-during-delivery/
The PROMPT foundation website: https://www.promptmaternity.org/ Related EBB Episodes and Signature Articles:
EBB 141 – Birthing and Disparities in Minnesota with Rhonda Fellows and Dr. Jennifer Almanza
EBB 142 – Home Birth Transfer During COVID-19 and the Uprisings in Minneapolis with Jenae Herron and Marcel Malekebu
EBB 143 – Birthing in a World with Reproductive Justice with Ihotu Ali, Daniela Montoya-Barthelemy, and Shayla Walker
EBB 168 - Dr. Amber Warmsley on the 1-step vs. 2-step delivery approaches EBB Podcast and Signature Article on Birthing Positions EBB Podcast and Signature Article on Big Babies
For more information and news about Evidence Based Birth®, visit www.ebbirth.com.
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EBB 288 - From Birthing in the Pandemic to Birthing a Career as a Postpartum Doula and Chef with Malisa Dekker of Planted Postpartum
In this episode, I’m talking with Malisa Dekker, a Postpartum Doula and Chef based in Brooklyn, New York, about her profound journey through two contrasting birth and postpartum experiences that shaped her passion for postpartum wellness.
Malisa’s first birth took place during the tumultuous times of the COVID-19 pandemic, where interventions and a lack of support left her feeling disconnected and overwhelmed. With the desire for change, Malisa embarked on her second pregnancy, seeking empowerment and a holistic approach to birthing. She details her transformational shift to a home birth with the support of a dedicated midwife, her partner Taylor, and a community of friends who understood the importance of empathetic care and emphasized the profound impact having one’s emotional needs addressed during labor can have on a birthing person’s experience. Malisa’s experience led her to become a passionate advocate for postpartum wellness and support, driving her to become a Postpartum Doula. Through her unique combination of skills as a Doula and Chef, she aims to provide nourishment, care, and empathy to new parents during the challenging postpartum period.
Content Warnings: postpartum anxiety, a pandemic birth story with isolation and interventions
Resources
Follow Malisa’s work on Instagram: @plantedpostpartum Learn more about Malisa’s postpartum nutrition mentor, Alicia Allison: CloverandTimothy.com Check out training opportunities from: the Birthing Advocacy Doula Trainings (BADT) website EBB's parent workshops and classes calendar Read “The First Forty Days” book to prepare for postpartum nutrition and self care needs Listen to EBB Episodes
EBB 229 – Evidence on Doulas: Community-Based Models, the Pandemic, and Reimbursement with the EBB Research Team EBB 194 – Nutrition and Real Food in Pregnancy with Lily Nichols, RDN EBB 169 – The Importance of Postpartum Doula Care with Ali Buchanan
For more information and news about Evidence Based Birth®, visit www.ebbirth.com.
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Want to get involved at EBB?
Check out our Professional Membership (including scholarship options) here
Find an EBB Instructor here
Click here to learn more about the Evidence Based Birth® Childbirth Class -
EBB 287 - A Positive Hospital Waterbirth Story with EBB Childbirth Class Graduate, Katrina Hull
Content Warning: postpartum hemorrhage, GBS Positive, antibiotics for GBS,
On this episode of the EBB podcast, I talk with Katrina Hull, a graduate of the EBB childbirth class about her positive hospital water birth story.
Katrina Hull is a former high school math and engineering teacher with over a decade of experience in the classroom. Her passion for education and entrepreneurship has led her to her current role as coordinating producer at PBS NewsHour Classroom where she develops lesson materials and resources for integrating invention education into classrooms across the country.
Katrina shares her experiences taking the EBB childbirth class and discusses in depth the education and work she put into preparing for her desired hospital water birth. In addition to finding her “Golden Ticket” birth team and desired location, she shares the details of her amazing and empowering birth story, despite having a few complications, including finding out she was Group B Strep Positive and handling a postpartum hemorrhage.
Resources:
Learn more about Marnellie Bishop’s Evidence Based Birth® Childbirth Class here Learn more about the GentleBirth Pregnancy app here Read more about Rebecca’s experience with Hypnobabies in Babies are Not Pizza’s Learn more about the Evidence on Hypnosis for Pain Management here Learn more about the Evidence on water immersion for Pain Management here Learn about the research evidence on combining hypnosis and water immersion for pain: Madden, K., Middleton, P., Cyna, A. M., et al. (2016). Hypnosis for pain management during labour and childbirth. Cochrane Database Syst Rev(5), CD009356.
Listen to Evidence Based Birth Podcasts:
EBB 131: Evidence on: Pitocin During the 3rd Stage of Labor or read the Signature Article here https://evidencebasedbirth.com/evidence-on-pitocin-during-the-third-stage-of-labor/ EBB 267: Debunking Myths about Fundal Massage with Barbie Christianson, RN
Learn more about joining our Pro Membership for birth workers here, to take take our class on emergency management of PPH
Customer Reviews
Informative and Inclusive
I appreciate all the research reviewed and poured into this podcast. Our host does an excellent job explaining things in layman’s terms so it can be understood by everyone, both in and out of the field of birthwork. I really love the interviews and her ability to explain science behind an evidence based decision (or why it was not…) gracefully and in the moment. I have a 2-year-old and have been listening since about 3 years prior to my pregnancy, so I’d consider myself a long time listener. I have learned so much and am very grateful for the existence of platforms like this podcast. It’s on the top 5 things I recommend to pregnant friends. If my husband and I decide to have more children I’d like us to take the actual course because I’m sure we will learn even more.
On a side note, inclusivity does not mean exclusivity. To all the evangelicals complaining about “woke-ism” or whatever the latest culture war made up by Fox News that they tell you to be upset about: being kind hurts nobody. Nobody is “erasing your motherhood,” or whatever your complaint is - it’s simply realizing that not everybody who gives birth is a mother. This not only includes transgendered people, but also surrogates, those pursuing adopting out, etc. Mothers and birthing people is an accurate description. Also… I mean come on… This is a FREE podcast, if it’s truly not for you - beat it. No need to announce your departure. If you can get over your bias and be open to learning new things, stay. Get what you can out of it, and if some of it isn’t for you, then that’s ok too — realize it’s for other people who DO exist. Let’s have the humility to understand that. The world is a very interesting place.
P.S. Your anger may be better directed at legislation looking to actually harm mothers (and birthing persons!).
Ideological language - “Birthing Person” smh
The podcast claims to be rooted in science & references many research papers, but the host speaks in divisive language that I find diminishing as a woman. She frequently replaces the term mother with “birthing person”, which undermines the significant & traditional term “Mother”. It’s sooo hard to listen to & hits my ear wrong every time. Mother is a special term reserved for women, if the pod is truly rooted in science, a fact based understanding of biology is necessary. It’s really too bad the host has chosen to use divisive terminology that makes me feel extremely alienated. I hope the host will someday understand…
Had to unfollow
The Wokeness displayed on this podcast is so performative and silly. I simply cannot stomach it anymore.