The FVS Valuation Podcast

AICPA & CIMA

The FVS Valuation podcast is a monthly show brought to you by AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. We celebrated our 100th episode in October 2024 and our archives include captivating conversations with subject-matter experts, and progressive ideas from thought leaders. The show notes for each episode will contain additional resources to assist you in learning about valuation topics! The FVS Valuation Podcast is a part of the extensive resource library available from AICPA-CIMA's Forensic and Valuation Services Section, the premier provider of guidance, tools, and advocacy for professionals who specialize in providing forensics, valuation, litigation, and fraud services.

  1. FEB 5

    Business Valuation Hiring and Retention in 2026 – Demand, Development, and the Pipeline

    Demand for business valuation professionals continues to outpace supply, making hiring and retention a top challenge for valuation and forensic services firms heading into 2026. This episode explores business valuation hiring trends, talent retention strategies, AI's impact on early career valuation roles, and how firm consolidation is influencing the market. We also discuss why rebuilding the business valuation talent pipeline at the collegiate level is critical to the future of the profession. Continue reading to learn about key resources available at AICPA-CIMA.com to improve your valuation analyses. Guest: John Borrowman, CPC, President, Borrowman Baker LLC Host:  Nene Glenn Gianfala, CPA/ABV, Senior VP and Shareholder, Chaffe & Associates, Inc.   Please share your thoughts about the episode - click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  JOIN:  The FVS Engage365 Member Community to collaborate with fellow AICPA® members, exchange ideas, and shape the future of the profession together. AICPA 2026 Forensic & Valuation Services Conference Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content AICPA Model Business Valuation Curriculum Profession Ready Initiative - A research-backed CPA workforce readiness project focused on early-career skills gaps. Welcome to a career in forensic and valuation services The FVS Valuation Podcast archives Implementing AI in your Valuation Practice  Recruiting Challenges in BV: The Perfect Storm  Valuation in a Climate of Uncertainty LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    28 min
  2. JAN 8

    Grabowski's Take - Discount Rates, Risk, and the Future of Valuation

    Thanks for listening. It takes just a couple of minutes to share your feedback. You can also contact us directly at podcast@aicpa-cima.com Is CAPM still the gold standard for determining cost of capital—or is it time for a rethink? Valuation expert Roger Grabowski explores why CAPM often fails in practice and how shifting toward investment-specific risk provides a more accurate framework for real-world decision-making. We also discuss multi-factor models, ASC 820 implications, and practical strategies for communicating risk concepts to courts and auditors.  Key Takeaways  CAPM's Limitations: Decades of research show CAPM struggles to predict returns accurately, making it less reliable for valuation in practice. Investment-Specific Risk: Moving beyond company-specific risk to focus on risks tied to cash flows offers a clearer, more relevant approach. Aligning Theory with Practice: Modified CAPM, multi-factor models, and ASC 820's exit value concept help valuation professionals better reflect market realities and communicate effectively.  Continue reading to learn about key resources available at AICPA-CIMA.com to improve your valuation analyses. Guest: Roger Grabowski, FASA, Managing Director (ret.), Kroll LLC, Valuation Advisory Services Host: Josh Shilts, CPA/ABV/CFF/CGMA, Director, Forensic & Valuation Services, Dean Dorton RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  JOIN:  The FVS Engage365 Member Community to collaborate with fellow AICPA® members, exchange ideas, and shape the future of the profession together. EARLY CAREER GUIDANCE:  Welcome to a career in forensic and valuation services Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content FVS webcast archive | Developing discount rates for fair value reporting FVS Practice Aid | Discount Rates, Risks, and Uncertainty in Economic Damages Calculations The FVS Valuation Podcast archives Discounted Cash Flows with Roger Grabowski Valuation in a Climate of Uncertainty Reconciling Discount Rates for Intangible Asset Valuation in PPAs Macroeconomic Update 2025 - Cost of Capital and Valuation Impact LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    33 min
  3. 12/04/2025

    Implementing AI in your Valuation Practice

    In this episode, host Nene Glenn Gianfala sits down with Greg Endicott, a seasoned valuation professional and technology innovator, to discuss the transformative impact of artificial intelligence on the valuation industry.  Greg shares practical insights and a detailed 8-step framework for successfully integrating AI into valuation practices—whether you're part of a large firm or a solo practitioner there are opportunities for efficiency, automation, and market expansion. Key takeaways AI Is transforming every aspect of valuation Transparency, auditability, and professional standards are critical risks A structured, 8-Step framework for successful AI implementation Guest: Greg Endicott, CPA/ABV. ASA, Managing Director, Strategic Value Group, LLC and Founder and President of ValueVision, Inc. a Microsoft Partner developing an AI-enabled valuation workflow and knowledge management platform. Host:  Nene Glenn Gianfala, CPA/ABV, Senior VP and Shareholder, Chaffe & Associates, Inc.  Please share your thoughts about the episode - click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  JOIN:  The FVS Engage365 Member Community to collaborate with fellow AICPA® members, exchange ideas, and shape the future of the profession together. EARLY CAREER GUIDANCE:  Welcome to a career in forensic and valuation services Guidelines for Responsible Use of Artificial Intelligence (AI) in Forensic and Valuation Services Engagements Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content The state of AI and machine learning in financial instrument valuation | FVS webcast archive The FVS Valuation Podcast archives Using AI in Your Valuation Practice – Part 1 Using AI in Your Valuation Practice – Part 2 ESOPs: Preserving Culture, Valuation and Empowering Employees LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    35 min
  4. 11/20/2025

    Macroeconomic Update 2025 - Cost of Capital and Valuation Impact

    This interview was recorded on 10/28/2025 at the AICPA FVS Conference.  Economic issues discussed are still relevant as of the publish date: 11/20/2025 On this episode we hear from Carla Nunes and Jim Harrington from Kroll right after their session at the 2025 AICPA FVS Conference on October 28 to discuss the post-election economic landscape focusing on tariffs, fiscal stimulus, and their impact on valuations and the cost of capital. Our guests highlight how recent government policies, trade uncertainties, and the rise of AI are shaping market sentiment, interest rates, and equity risk premiums, and emphasizes the importance of staying informed and adapting valuation approaches to rapidly changing conditions. ________________________________________ Continue reading to learn about key resources available at AICPA-CIMA.com to improve your valuation analyses. Guests:   Carla S. Nunes, CFA, ABV, Managing Director, Kroll  James P. Harrington, Director, Kroll  Host:  Nene Glenn Gianfala, CPA, ABV, Chaffe & Associations Please share your thoughts about the episode - click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  JOIN:  The FVS Engage365 Member Community to collaborate with fellow AICPA® members, exchange ideas, and shape the future of the profession together. IT'S VIRTUAL! STILL TIME TO REGISTER  Business Valuation School - Dec 1-5, Live online PURCHASE SESSIONS:  2025 AICPA FVS Conference - you can purchase sessions and the handouts EARLY CAREER GUIDANCE:  Welcome to a career in forensic and valuation services Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content Cost of capital – basics and best practices in business valuation | FVS webcast archive The FVS Valuation Podcast archives Transparency in Private Market Valuations (2/27/2025) Macroeconomic Update 2024 - Cost of Capital & Valuation Impact (11/21/24) The New Normal: Cost of Capital in a Higher Interest Rate Environment (12/7/2023) ESG & the Cost of Capital (4/27/2023) LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    39 min
  5. 11/06/2025

    Current Trends in Private Credit Markets

    Private credit is one of the fastest-growing areas in alternative investments, driven by tighter traditional lending and demand for higher yields. But its rise brings valuation challenges—limited transparency, non-standard pricing, and infrequent market activity. How can these assets be accurately valued? What risks might be overlooked? And how should investors assess performance and liquidity? Hear from a specialist tackling these questions, and explore AICPA resources to enhance your valuation analysis. Key takeaways  •    Industry economics and motivations of stakeholders and constituents •    Applications and limitations of formal valuation and accounting guidance •    Characteristics and valuation implications of payment-in-kind (PIK) features •    Looking beyond carrying values to assess debt instruments Continue reading to learn about key resources available at AICPA-CIMA.com to improve your valuation analyses. Guest: Susan DuRoss, Managing Director, Global Head of Valuation, Harvest Investments Host:  Howard Mah-Lee, CFA, CAIA, ABV, Senior Manager, AICPA Valuation Services Please share your thoughts about the episode -  click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links. UPCOMING:  Business Valuation School - Dec 1-5, Live online JUST MISSED:  AICPA FVS Conference, Oct 27-29, 2025  - you can purchase sessions and the handouts.  Please see here Accounting and Valuation guides from AICPA  If you are an AICPA-FVS Section member see below for free access to these guides •    Valuation of Privately Held Companies Equity Securities Issued as Compensation •    Valuation of Portfolio Company Investments of Venture Capital and Private Equity Funds and Other Investment Companies Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content Private credit valuation in alternative investments | FVS webcast archive Valuation of Privately Held Companies Equity Securities Issued as Compensation Portfolio Company Investments of Venture Capital and Private Equity Funds and Other Investment Companies The FVS Valuation Podcast archives •    409A Valuations – What you Need to Know •    SAFEs, Convertible Notes, and Embedded Derivatives LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    25 min
  6. 10/23/2025

    ESOPs: Preserving Culture, Valuation and Empowering Employees

    In this episode, host Alex Partin and guests Serena Morones, David Harkins, and Kyle Wolf each bring their unique perspectives on Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) and their critical role in succession planning for privately held businesses.  The conversation explores how ESOPs offer a compelling alternative to traditional exit strategies.  The panel brings together perspectives from business valuation experts and those with firsthand experience in ESOP-owned firms, offering practical insights for business owners considering this path. Key Takeaways: ESOPs as a Succession Tool: ESOPs provide a way for business owners to transition ownership to employees, maintaining company culture and values while offering liquidity and a gradual exit strategy. Business Valuation for ESOPs: The success of an ESOP partly depends on accurate, third-party business valuation, which determines fair market value for the transaction and ensures sustainability for both sellers and employee owners. Transparency and Engagement Drive Success: Companies that openly communicate ESOP benefits and valuation processes to employees foster a sense of ownership, improve retention, and create a more engaged workplace culture. Guests:   David Harkins, CPA/ABV/CFF, CFA, Mercer Capital Serena Morones, CPA/ABV, Morones Analytics Kyle Wolf, CPA/ABV, Stern Brothers Business Valuation Advisors Host:  Alex Partin, CPA/ABV, Mueller & Partin, PS Please share your thoughts about the episode - click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  AICPA Forensic & Valuation Services Conference, Oct 27-29, Aurora, CO, attend virtually for 1,2,or 3 days  Business Valuation School - Dec 1-5, Live online NEW RESOURCE Welcome to a career in forensic and valuation services - early-career guidance, built for you AICPA Employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs) resource center Journal of Accountancy articles : Employee ownership and taxes:  Why firms are choosing ESOPs What to know when you client is considering employee ownership   Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content Valuations performed for employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs) and FAQs  What every valuation analyst should know about employee stock ownership plans (ESOPs)  The FVS Valuation Podcast archives From Analysis to Testimony: Key Skills for a Career in Forensic and Valuation Services The Business Valuation Profession Enhancing Professional Growth through AICPA FVS Section Resources and Participation LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    29 min
  7. 10/02/2025

    Insights for Navigating Common Issues in Business Valuation - 2025 update

    In this episode, host Greg Saunders is joined by a diverse panel of guests for a candid discussion on business valuation practices and regional nuances. The panel explores key topics including: Tax effecting PTEs post-TCJA Using the guideline transaction method effectively Managing timing mismatches in real estate appraisals Aligning valuation and transfer dates Differentiating personal vs. enterprise goodwill Whether you're a seasoned valuation professional or an emerging professional, this episode offers practical insights and real-world perspectives to help navigate common valuation scenarios.  Continue reading to learn about key resources available at AICPA-CIMA.com to improve your valuation analyses. Guests:  Tiffany Mellow, CPA/ABV, Perkins & Co David Harkins, CPA/ABV, Mercer Capital Jessica Landay ABV, Harper Hofer Host: Greg Saunders, CPA/ABV, Keiter Please share your thoughts about the episode - click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  AICPA Forensic & Valuation Services Conference, Oct 28-30, Aurora, CO, in person and online AICPA Expert Witness Skills Workshop, Oct 28-30, Aurora, CO,in person only Business Valuation School - Sep 8-12, Raleigh NC, in person only Business Valuation School - Dec 1-5, Live online NEW RESOURCE Welcome to a career in forensic and valuation services - early-career guidance, built for you Exclusive content available with AICPA FVS Section membership: Click here to join this active community of your FVS peers. You will get 16 credits of complimentary CPE and access to rich technical content Considerations when using the Guideline Company Transaction Method (GCTM)  How to use MergerShark to improve your market approach | FVS webcast archive FVS estate and gift toolkit Estate and gift valuation case law - key takeaways | FVS webcast archive Working with other appraisers - valuation of FLPs holding real estate         The FVS Valuation Podcast archives Personal vs. Enterprise Goodwill: Key Things to Know Making a Case for Using the Market Approach for Determining Fair Market Value  Real Estate in the Valuation of Operating Entities and Holding Companies  LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    26 min
  8. 09/04/2025

    Defining the Limits: Navigating Tax Risk with Formula Transfer Clauses

    Josh Shilts interviews estate and tax attorney, Bo Trudeau, about formula transfer clauses for estate and gift tax planning. They discuss how these clauses can help reduce tax risk for transfers of hard-to-value assets, review key cases such as Wandry and Procter, and clarify the differences between the various types of formula transfer clauses.  The episode highlights the importance of establishing intent, consistent documentation, and timely valuations, and also provides specific strategies to bolster formula transfers against challenges from the IRS.   Key takeaways include: Evolution of the case law relating to formula transfers Distinctions between defined value, price adjustment, and other clauses Essential strategies and documentation for formula transfers Continue reading to learn about key resources available at AICPA-CIMA.com to improve your valuation analyses. Guest: Robert H. "Bo" Trudeau, JD, LLM, Purcell, Flanagan, Hay & Greene, P.A. Host: Josh Shilts, CPA/ABV/CFF/CGMA, Forensic & Valuation Services Director, Dean Dorton Please share your thoughts about the episode - click here to leave us a review   Want to get involved with future FVS conferences, committees, task forces, or the standing ovation program? Send a message to infoFVS@aicpa-cima.com RESOURCES FOR FURTHER EXPLORATION If you're using a podcast app that does not hyperlink to the resources, please visit our podcast platform to access the show notes with direct links.  Check out early bird and special discounts for AICPA and FVS Section members, and ABV, CFF and CVFI credential holders AICPA Forensic & Valuation Services Conference, Oct 28-30, Aurora, CO, in person and online AICPA Expert Witness Skills Workshop, Oct 28-30, Aurora, CO,in person only Business Valuation School - Sep 8-12, Raleigh NC, in person only Business Valuation School - Dec 1-5, Live online VS Section 100 Toolkit   This toolkit is designed to provide non-authoritative guidance on the development of valuation or calculation engagements in accordance with VS Section 100. Statement on Standards for Valuation Services ("VS Section 100" or "SSVS"), Valuation of a Business, Business Ownership Interest, Security, or Intangible Asset   FVS Section Benefit - FVS estate and gift toolkit Stay up to date on the latest FVS estate and gift guidance.  This toolkit will serve as an invaluable resource to keep you up to date on the latest guidance. The FVS Valuation Podcast archives Complexities Of Subsequent Events in Business Valuation Enhancing Professional Growth through AICPA FVS Section Resources and Participation Estate Planning – Anticipating the Change in 2025  LEARN MORE ABOUT THE FOLLOWING AICPA CREDENTIALS: Accredited in Business Valuation (ABV®) – Visit the home page and check out the ABV infographic Certified in the Valuation of Financial Instruments (CVFI®) – Visit the home page and check out the CVFI infographic Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF®) - Visit the home page and check out the CFF infographic This is a podcast from AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. To enjoy more conversations from our global community of accounting and finance professionals, explore our network of free shows here. Your feedback and comments are welcomed at podcast@aicpa-cima.com

    33 min

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The FVS Valuation podcast is a monthly show brought to you by AICPA & CIMA, together as the Association of International Certified Professional Accountants. We celebrated our 100th episode in October 2024 and our archives include captivating conversations with subject-matter experts, and progressive ideas from thought leaders. The show notes for each episode will contain additional resources to assist you in learning about valuation topics! The FVS Valuation Podcast is a part of the extensive resource library available from AICPA-CIMA's Forensic and Valuation Services Section, the premier provider of guidance, tools, and advocacy for professionals who specialize in providing forensics, valuation, litigation, and fraud services.