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Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

    How Blackstone became the darling of grill TikTok with CEO Roger Dahle

    How Blackstone became the darling of grill TikTok with CEO Roger Dahle

    Nilay Patel encountered the name Blackstone on TikTok last year, just as the pandemic lockdowns were starting. He saw people posting videos smashing burgers and making pancakes outside on a griddle frequently with the caption “I finally got a Blackstone.” 20 minutes ago he hadn’t even heard about this thing, and now he was late to a trend? So he bought one. And hasn’t used his regular grill in over a year.
    Nilay sat down with the CEO of Blackstone products and inventor of the Blackstone griddle Roger Dahle. They talked about Blackstone’s ability to generate recurring revenue, and how the griddle itself is a platform for a variety of additional products and services, some of which might be made by competitors. And Blackstone has big competitors in Weber, and Cuisinart — so we talked about competition, and branding, and going up against the biggest players in a space, and the creator economy. You know: Decoder stuff.
    Take a listen. And you can read the transcript here: https://www.theverge.com/e/22347828
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    • 1 hr 8 min
    Can Polestar design a new kind of car company?

    Can Polestar design a new kind of car company?

    We are back after our week off, and we’ve got a good one today. On this episode I’m talking to Thomas Ingenlath, CEO of Polestar, a new car company with close family ties to Volvo.
    We talked a lot about what kind of company Polestar is — it’s pretty small, and has the ability to rethink a lot of things about how a car company is organized, while having the ability to fall back on a larger company if needed. We also talked a lot about what makes a car company a car company, at a time when everything about cars seems up for grabs.
    Transcript here
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    • 57 min
    Land of the Giants: Delivery Wars

    Land of the Giants: Delivery Wars

    While Decoder is on vacation this week, we're sharing an episode of Land of the Giants, a podcast from our friends at Recode and Eater.
    Land of the Giants is a podcast that explores how the biggest tech companies rose to power, and what they're doing with that power. In this 4-part mini-season, they’re covering the world of restaurant delivery apps and exploring how big tech is transforming the business of food, and the true cost of our convenience.
     You can listen to the full season of Land of Giants wherever you find your podcasts.
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    • 34 min
    Juul and the business of addiction, with Lauren Etter

    Juul and the business of addiction, with Lauren Etter

    Juul became a sensation — and a sensationally dramatic story.
    Lauren Etter, author of The Devil's Playbook: Big Tobacco, JUUL, and the Addiction of a New Generation, joins us to explain how a tech startup founded in a Stanford design studio to disrupt the smoking industry upended years of tobacco regulation in the United States, got a new generation of teenagers addicted to nicotine after years of declining teen smoking rates, and eventually found itself valued at 38 billion.
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    Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on the business of Windows

    Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella on the business of Windows

    Nilay Patel talks with Satya Nadella, the CEO and chairman of Microsoft.
    On Thursday, Microsoft announced Windows 11, which comes with an all-new design, a bunch of new features, and the ability to run Android apps.
    Nilay asks Nadella about how he thinks about Windows as a platform, what Microsoft’s responsibilities are, and how he thinks the various antitrust bills in Congress will affect Microsoft’s plans for the future.
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    • 37 min
    Patreon CEO Jack Conte on why creators can’t depend on platforms

    Patreon CEO Jack Conte on why creators can’t depend on platforms

    Nilay Patel talks with Jack Conte, co-founder and CEO of Patreon, the platform that allows people to pay their favorite creators directly with monthly subscriptions.
    Nilay and Jack talk about how Patreon’s model as “membership” works, what Patreon’s relationship is to Apple and the app store, and where the overall creator economy is going on the internet.
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    • 1 hr 5 min

Customer Reviews

4.0 out of 5
2.6K Ratings

2.6K Ratings

Scotty(not G) ,

Spotify CLO blows it

Not sure who let Horacio Guiterrez on to Decoder. He might be a great lawyer, but he made a horrible case against Apple. He sounded like a whiny child, he is missing the point that consumers trust Apple more than Spotify and almost every other tech company.

More innovation is good, but typical SV attitude, is that Innovtion in itself is positive and want consumers want..

Max Bess ,

Great interviewer

Nilay is terrific. Unfortunately being a 1 on 1 podcast it sometimes is missing chemistry if the guest is bland (Spotify episode). It almost makes me wish Dieter would be on just to jump in 2-3 times with an provoking question. Regardless Nilay is not afraid to push guests on some of their egregious acts (John Deer CTO) whereas most would just give softball interviews and ignore their issues. Love hearing from C-suite execs, great for getting an idea about the company for investment purposes as well.

On a personal note Nilay has really helped me as a young professional learn how to act in interviews and how to ask engaging questions. Terrific podcast alongside the Vergecast.

LXSherman ,

Decoder

Nilay is a terrific interviewer. Obviously does his homework. Frames incisive, insightful questions. And let’s his subjects hang themselves without interruption or or snarky asides (like some unnamed Vox podcast hosts).

Case in point was Polestar’s CEO dismissal of privacy concerns with using Android/Google Maps in his OS stack by analogy to his similar comfort to using externally sourced AM radios in 1980 Volvos.

Oh my, Ingenlath is totally a car guy. Thanks for letting your listeners form their own conclusions!

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